GraceRandolph Posted Tuesday at 07:50 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 07:50 PM 1 minute ago, getBusy said: Only 4 people took this woman seriously last time. That's what y'all said about Trump in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted Tuesday at 07:53 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:53 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: The Democratic Party suppressed any opposition to coronating Biden. Please stop. we(speaking collectively and not about me and you) could have done a lot more to make it known that we don't want him anywhere near office. same for people on the other side of the political spectrum too who as far as i can tell are widely opposed to another four years of turnip like we are with genocide joe for every election that i can personally remember the party a candidate hard and early with minimal opposition from the people Edited Tuesday at 07:55 PM by Sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getBusy Posted Tuesday at 07:53 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:53 PM 1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said: That's what y'all said about Trump in 2015. How are those things even related? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarticle Posted Tuesday at 08:06 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:06 PM wish her an ounce of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted Tuesday at 08:16 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 08:16 PM 21 minutes ago, getBusy said: How are those things even related? The Democrats continue to make assumptions about the electorate and what they will want and it's clear they are out of step. Trump is popular among republicans while Hillary failed and Biden is now failing. I'd take a wild card over whatever the blob wants atp. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleuwaffle Posted Tuesday at 08:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:33 PM Madame President 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodflowers. Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM Heal the world from war and hatred, Mother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The7thStranger Posted Tuesday at 09:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:45 PM 2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: Sorry, but we can't give up. Biden cannot win at this point and it's highly debatable whether he has it in him to campaign against Trump. It's very possible for Dems to raise the profile of a candidate in time for November who has a shot at defeating Trump. Plenty of countries have shorter election cycles. I'm aware, but most other countries you're likely eluding to have a parliamentary system where parties come, go, and adapt. The United States is not that country. And so, I repeat... Biden, Trump, abstain. Putting your faith in a random third person five months out from election day will get you nowhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted Tuesday at 10:07 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 10:07 PM 20 minutes ago, The7thStranger said: I'm aware, but most other countries you're likely eluding to have a parliamentary system where parties come, go, and adapt. The United States is not that country. And so, I repeat... Biden, Trump, abstain. Putting your faith in a random third person five months out from election day will get you nowhere. 7/10 Americans don't believe Biden has the mental fitness to be POTUS, he's trailing in every swing state and declining in blue states. Down ballot Dems are distancing themselves from him. If you can't see the liability then I don't know what to tell you. You're just wrong. You need to wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBeMe Posted Tuesday at 10:07 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:07 PM she's so funny! I love her lol also guys what is her accent? It's unique AF lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic-turner Posted Tuesday at 10:15 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:15 PM 2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: The Democratic Party suppressed any opposition to coronating Biden. Please stop. Their name is Sheep they can't stop unfortunately :-/ if the Democratic wanted to put their entire machine behind Marianne she could probably do a much better job come election than Biden ever could. They are currently pushing all their power on a candidate that actively sabotages his own campaign just by still being alive, but the truth is the Democratic party fears progressive candidates like Bernie or Marianne far more than it fears a Trump presidency. Wish I lived in the universe where Marianne could run with the support of a political that isn't corrupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qegqeg Posted Wednesday at 12:02 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:02 AM My president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getBusy Posted Wednesday at 01:06 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:06 AM 4 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: The Democrats continue to make assumptions about the electorate and what they will want and it's clear they are out of step. Trump is popular among republicans while Hillary failed and Biden is now failing. I'd take a wild card over whatever the blob wants atp. The point i was trying to make is that she already ran in 2020 and didn't really get much attention. I agree that the DNC make assumptions, I just think this woman already gave this a try and people wasn't feeling her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted Wednesday at 01:20 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 01:20 AM 14 minutes ago, getBusy said: The point i was trying to make is that she already ran in 2020 and didn't really get much attention. I agree that the DNC make assumptions, I just think this woman already gave this a try and people wasn't feeling her. She was the most googled candidate in 49/50 states following her debate... Once she is in contention to be the nominee she'll get plenty of attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bethenny Frankel Posted Wednesday at 02:43 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:43 AM girl you're an idiot and you lost, you're not winning **** give it up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi91 Posted Wednesday at 03:15 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:15 AM These third party candidates are the adults "pick me" girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scabandplaster Posted Wednesday at 03:18 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:18 AM If this country had any sense should would be the obvious nominee. It's a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The7thStranger Posted Wednesday at 06:27 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:27 AM 8 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: If you can't see the liability then I don't know what to tell you. You're just wrong. You need to wake up. And if you can't see the liability in trying to shoehorn some virtually unknown candidate five months before an election, then I don't know what to tell you. You need to grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny789 Posted Wednesday at 11:22 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:22 AM (edited) 8 hours ago, Sergi91 said: These third party candidates are the adults "pick me" girls. She's not third party nor is she trying to run as a 3rd party candidate. She wants an open convention (like many other democrats) where Biden drops out and the delegates get to pick a candidate and since she's gained more than 500,000 votes this year she has every right to put her hat in the ring. There would be many other democrats also campaigning for the votes. Edited Wednesday at 11:23 AM by Danny789 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mendes Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) On 7/2/2024 at 3:41 PM, GraceRandolph said: Sorry, but we can't give up. Biden cannot win at this point and it's highly debatable whether he has it in him to campaign against Trump. It's very possible for Dems to raise the profile of a candidate in time for November who has a shot at defeating Trump. Plenty of countries have shorter election cycles. This isn't really our how system works, though. It's too late for this. The time to have this conversation would've been end of last year or start of this year. We're way too close to the election to doing this now. The fact of the matter is, there isn't another actual option available other than Kamala Harris who stands a much worse chance at winning than Biden does. The way the Democrats have operated for the last decade has made it to where the whole party surrounds a couple of specific personalities and they've put all of their eggs in that basket. We don't have any viable alternatives at the moment, and four months is not near enough time to get a no-name raised so far up that they could win an election. You can't compare other countries and their cycles to ours because there's no other country in the world who runs their political machines like we do, and there's no other electorate in the world that is as finicky as we are. Where we are now is there's a chance we lose if Biden stays on the ticket. There's a 100% guarantee we lose if he isn't. The American public has not ever and will not ever throw their support behind someone they do not know or that they perceive as inexperienced. Even if the person they would pick to replace has a long and illustrious record, if there's no name brand recognition there, they're dead in the water. 4 months isn't enough to build someone's platform like that. There's a reason candidates begin campaigning 1-2 years out from an election. I don't necessarily blame you for wanting something different than what you've got. I do too. But you've got to understand how this system works first. I appreciate your idealism, but the stances you've taken as of late kind of demonstrate that you don't really have a grasp on the realities of the American political machine and don't see how what you want and hope for isn't really doable at present. That's not to say what you want is bad, it just isn't possible currently. Edited 23 hours ago by Mr. Mendes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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