celeb news Katy Perry was warned

[Pheromosa]

I don't think she was warned at all, because she already knew. 

She has all that idol money and didn't care, she's hoping it'll smash. For her sake she should hope she can have her seat back on the judge's panel in a year. 

[TomTom]

1 minute ago, iHype. said:

 

What was "debunked"? Kesha factually told other industry peers Katy was raped, it was proven in court and she lost a defamation case behind it. 

This is factually wrong on every single level.

 

 

[iHype.]

8 minutes ago, TomTom said:

This is factually wrong on every single level.

 

 

All you're pointing out is Kesha claiming she heard the rumor from another source, not that she didn't also say it out of her mouth herself (which she did).

 

Addiotionally Kesha and her lawyers doubled down on the rumor after Katy herself denied it. They refused to listen to the woman involved and that they were accusing of being a victim of sexual assault.

They continued, asserting that while Kesha "cannot concede a fact for which she lacks personal knowledge," Dr. Luke and Perry's denials are not proof the rape did not happen.

[TomTom]

3 minutes ago, iHype. said:

All you're pointing out is Kesha claiming she heard the rumor from another source, not that she didn't also say it out of her mouth herself (which she did).

No, I'm pointing out that Kesha has not told "industry peers" anything, that no such thing has been "proven in court" and that Kesha has not "lost" any defamation case. Please learn how to read.

 

3 minutes ago, iHype. said:

Addiotionally Kesha and her lawyers doubled down on the rumor after Katy herself denied it.

No, they didn't.

Edited Wednesday at 02:24 PM by TomTom

[iHype.]

5 minutes ago, TomTom said:

No, I'm pointing out that Kesha has not told "industry peers" anything, that no such thing has been "proven in court" and that Kesha has not "lost" any defamation case. Please learn how to read.

 

No, they didn't.

Kesha told Gaga in a text message that Katy was raped, factual. The texts were shown in court, factual. 

 

And yes, Kesha's lawyers dismissed Katy denying she was raped by staying her denial isn't proof it didn't occur. Denying Katy's words but also wanting her to stand 100% behind your story is ridiculous 

[TomTom]

20 minutes ago, iHype. said:

Kesha told Gaga in a text message that Katy was raped, factual. The texts were shown in court, factual. 

Which is…absolutely not what you said at first .

 

20 minutes ago, iHype. said:

And yes, Kesha's lawyers dismissed Katy denying she was raped by staying her denial isn't proof it didn't occur.

Kesha never said she knows personally for a fact that Katy was raped, she was simply under the assumption that it happened based on what John Janick told her.

 

She can't "double down" on something she never claimed to have known for a fact to begin with.

 

This is evidenced by your own quoted statement that Kesha "cannot concede a fact for which she lacks personal knowledge".

 

Please use your brain.

Edited Wednesday at 02:49 PM by TomTom

[Damien M]

8 hours ago, iHype. said:

Can someone explain why Katy is owed to be an ally to Kesha when people seem to be forgetting Kesha went around telling industry peers that Katy was also raped by him which was a false lie? 

 

Katy's in a unique standing in the situation. Imagine someone lied about you being raped and then you are being gaslit to stand behind their other accusations or you're the bad person? 
 

Katy did the most objective thing she could do which was just not take any side while the case was happening and let that play out. Luke's accusations were dismissed and Kesha lied on Katy, so logically why is she still expected to permanently drop Luke and stand with Kesha? 
 

It's pretty odd she's put in a position where she has to side with someone who went around telling very extreme lies regarding her. 

Agreed. This thread is so unhinged about this whole case.

 

how do you go around calling someone a rapist when it wasn't provable in a court of law? 

[iHype.]

9 minutes ago, TomTom said:

Which is…absolutely not what you said at first 

 

Kesha never said she knows personally for a fact that Katy was raped, she was simply under the assumption that it happened based on what John Janick told her.

 

She can't "double down" on something she never claimed to have known for a fact to begin with.

 

This is evidenced by your own quoted statement that Kesha "cannot concede a fact for which she lacks personal knowledge".

 

Please use your brain.

John Janick denied he told them Katy was raped in his deposition, so the claimed source of the rumor is contradicting that he ever told Kesha that. 

 

Kesha's lawyers stated Katy's denial isn't proof that rape didn't happen to her. This actually happened. They didn't take her story as 100% fully credible, and they didn't "believe women's stories" in her instance. But also Katy is expected to stand fully behind Kesha in return. 

[OmegaRidley]

5 hours ago, BornUnbroken said:

This is an incredibly stupid argument that's been discussed time and time again - Doja Cat signed to him prior to the allegations coming forward. Becky G also found herself in a really difficult situation and obviously can't speak out about anything despite suing him in 2018. And Doja Cat has also maintained distance and shaded him as well. And I say this as someone who doesn't gaf about Doja as a musician. But it's only Nicki and Katy willingly keeping him around in pop. I'd include Petrat in that list too, but she's such a loser that's never even charted on the hot 100 solo she's a non-factor in the industry and barely keeping the lights on at amigo records.

Wether she was signed before or after him doesn't make any change. 
 

listening to her music makes Luke money, therefore you support his lifestyle and income. 
 

 

[TomTom]

20 hours ago, iHype. said:

John Janick denied he told them Katy was raped in his deposition, so the claimed source of the rumor is contradicting the story. 

And Lady Gaga testified he did in fact say that. You can believe Lady Gaga would lie under oath for Kesha for no reason or believe that a music industry executive would want to protect his reputation in the industry by denying to have told a false rumor.

 

20 hours ago, iHype. said:

Kesha's lawyers stated Katy's denial isn't proof that rape didn't happen to her. This actually happened. They didn't take her story as 100% credible, and they didn't "listen to women" in her instance. But also Katy is expected to stand fully behind Kesha in return. 

Your mental gymnastics really don't change the basic fact that Kesha never claimed to have personally known for a fact that Katy was raped and therefore can not confirm herself whether it is true OR false.

Edited Thursday at 11:00 AM by TomTom

[Katy V.!]

4 minutes ago, iHype. said:

John Janick denied he told them Katy was raped in his deposition, so the claimed source of the rumor is contradicting the story. 

 

Kesha's lawyers stated Katy's denial isn't proof that rape didn't happen to her. This actually happened. They didn't take her story as 100% fully credible, and they didn't "believe women's stories" in her instance. But also Katy is expected to stand fully behind Kesha in return. 

The fact that after all of this Kesha stans aren't thanking Katy for keeping her mouth shut

[iHype.]

Just now, TomTom said:

And Lady Gaga told testified he did in fact say that. You can believe Lady Gaga would lie under oath for Kesha for no reason or believe that a music industry executive would want to protect his reputation in the industry by denying to have told a false rumor.

 

Your mental gymnastics really don't change the basic fact that Kesha never claimed to have personally known for a fact that was Katy raped and therefore can not confirm herself whether it is true OR false.

Even Gaga in her deposition admitted she didn't properly recall whether he phrased it as knowing she was raped or that he even brought up rape in particular.

 

There is no mental gymnastics. I can again post proof Kesha's team denied Katy's claims she wasn't raped as proof she wasn't. 

In Gaga's deposition, she says Janick told her and Kesha "he had heard a rumor" about Luke and Perry. (Janick, in his own deposition, denied this.) Following up on the specifics, Gaga said she wasn't sure if he used the word "rumor," and didn't "recall exactly the way he said it." She said, "I just recall that it was brought up" — by him. 

[TomTom]

Just now, iHype. said:

Even Gaga in her deposition admitted she didn't properly recall whether he phrased it as knowing she was raped or that he even brought up rape in particular.

That does not materially change anything .

 

1 minute ago, iHype. said:

There is no mental gymnastics. I can again post proof Kesha's team denied Katy's claims she wasn't raped as proof she wasn't. 

Which is your own twisted interpretation .

[Sannie]

27 minutes ago, iHype. said:

 

Even Gaga in her deposition admitted she didn't properly recall whether he phrased it as knowing she was raped or that he even brought up rape in particular.

 

There is no mental gymnastics. I can again post proof Kesha's team denied Katy's claims she wasn't raped as proof she wasn't. 

 

Girl, you're in this thread fighting for your life... for a rapist. Do you people have no shame?

[gettsleazy]

10 minutes ago, Sannie said:

Girl, you're in this thread fighting for your life... for a rapist. Do you people have no shame?

You're asking someone with the username "iHype" if they have no shame. 

 

 

[CroNich]

52 minutes ago, Damien M said:

Agreed. This thread is so unhinged about this whole case.

 

how do you go around calling someone a rapist when it wasn't provable in a court of law? 

You release how hard is to prove rape in a court of law? Are you seriously saying that every person who has claimed to be raped but may not been able to prove it in a court of law is a liar?

Edited Wednesday at 03:41 PM by CroNich

[Mornings]

Yall better hold the same energy for anyone who works with The Dream moving forward. I'm watching allllll of you

[iHype.]

53 minutes ago, TomTom said:

That does not materially change anything .

 

Which is your own twisted interpretation .

It does materially change the situation when you claim someone told you and a friend Katy was raped, that person denies it, and the friend is now being vague in recalling and doesn't have proper recollection of the details in which they were told.

27 minutes ago, Sannie said:

Girl, you're in this thread fighting for your life... for a rapist. Do you people have no shame?

I haven't defended Dr. Luke at any point. You are engaging in a conversation which you can't even properly comprehend? Do you have no shame? 
 

Stick to discussing Gaga's upcoming prescription medicine commercials.

[Phaunzie]

ok and? Also using the Dailymail, OKHs are desperate this week, huh? 

[BrokenMachine]

15 hours ago, CottageHore said:

I'm convinced Katy is trying to be controversial because otherwise she's just very stupid 

Or maybe

 

Whatever...

 

 

[TomTom]

1 hour ago, iHype. said:

Even Gaga in her deposition admitted she didn't properly recall whether he phrased it as knowing she was raped or that he even brought up rape in particular.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

 

 

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=D/rxE0742I/wg_PLUS_hh9EXtiQ==

[The7thStranger]

17 hours ago, ThomasTea said:

lol

 

The numbers just aren't adding up, all these Kesha 'stans' and yet Gag has 26m streams . For the record, I did stream the album, just wish y'all would too.

Why would I stream an album I purchased physically?

 

And what do her streams have to do with the fact that Katy Perry is working with Kesha's rapist?

 

That girl tries to appeal to everybody and appeals to nobody in the end.

 

  

17 hours ago, DoubleRainbow! said:

Stop blaming women for men's actions 

Sorry, who here is accusing Katy Perry of raping Kesha?

Edited Wednesday at 04:32 PM by The7thStranger

[ChooseyLover]

Lol at these users still siding with Dr Luke and writing these thinkpieces after he just gave Katy the worst song he's ever produced/written  He's not only a bad person but a shitty professional 

[Relampago.]

"Well he didn't sexually assault HER!"

 

"Well it couldn't be PROVEN!"

 

We are in stan hell.

[BornUnbroken]

2 hours ago, OmegaRidley said:

Wether she was signed before or after him doesn't make any change. 
 

listening to her music makes Luke money, therefore you support his lifestyle and income. 
 

 

Yes it does because Doja is not WILLINGLY working with him unlike some of these other losers. The argument here is that Katy is WILLINGLY employing Lukasz and enabling his behavior. How EMBARRASSING that not only Kesha, but a majority of her female colleagues have taken a stance against him for a multitude of reasons and she decides to employ his ass on her lead single about female empowerment. You katy scats can do all types of mental gymnastics over this issue all you want, but she has shown time and time again what an uneducated, morally corrupt, power hungry, vocally mediocre, corny loser ass white woman she is.