Into The Void Posted June 26 Posted June 26 13 hours ago, Petra von Kant said: for better or for worse, no but it will happen sooner or later and that's objetively true cuz nothing lasts forever, like it or not I don't think Swifties are capable of understanding she will eventually flop 2 1
Cruel Summer Posted June 26 Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, Into The Void said: I don't think Swifties are capable of understanding she will eventually flop I don't think that's as certain as you might think. She'll one day cease to be the sole dominant force, sure, but do we really think at this point she's going to flop? Every single time there's the slightest hint of a flicker in her popularity, she comes back even stronger. I have to assume that even when that stops happening, she'll be able to avoid flopping and will remain a powerful force with every album cycle. In the US especially, there's literally never been a more consistently successful act. The sheer size of her casual and dedicated fanbases and her two straight decades of unprecedented consistency just don't lend themselves to any possibility of a project truly failing. 4 1
byzantium Posted June 26 Posted June 26 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Into The Void said: I don't think Swifties are capable of understanding she will eventually flop "Flop" is relative to expectations. What more likely is she will have declining success but not at the rate we saw with albums like radical optimism, 30, Artpop, (insert recent Ed Sheeran album) etc. Then again, OTHs called Lover a flop so I'm sure some people will say Taylor "flopped" if her next album "only" gets to 7x platinum status. Edited June 26 by byzantium 3
Strawberry Bubble Posted June 26 Posted June 26 5 hours ago, PopCultAficionado said: Not at all. Taylor is omnipresent you literally can't escape her . I just left the grocery store and almost every magazine at the check out lane was a Taylor Swift cover lol. I also just heard Fortnight at the store too where are you from? I wish this was the situation in my country :(
Strawberry Bubble Posted June 26 Posted June 26 (edited) Living in one of her weakest markets, I've seen Taylor's presence in almost every store and heard her music in the mall twice just this week. My country might just be discovering Taylor, but she's doing very well here right now. However, Taylormania will probably fade by 2025 or 2026. It's inevitable. But it will return; she knows how to make a comeback. Edited June 26 by Strawberry Bubble 1
PopCultAficionado Posted June 26 Posted June 26 46 minutes ago, Strawberry Bubble said: where are you from? I wish this was the situation in my country :( USA
dirrtydiana Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Yes. Every era is a reflection of the last. Poets opened great due to how mids was received. TS 13 will not do as hot due to how poets is doing with critics and variants over saturation 1 1
Storm653 Posted June 26 Posted June 26 (edited) Is any MPG actually dominating pop culture atm? I feel, in this post-monocultural world, few people are really dominating the news cycles or tabloids rn. For instance, Ariana dropped a comeback album earlier this year and I haven't heard anything about her after a month since the album dropped. Also, let's not forget Reputation(TV) is dropping later this year. So far, I feel Taylor still dominated more than any other MPG this year. She just wasn't 2023 dominant. Edited June 26 by Storm653
Storm653 Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Also, let's not forget too that many "manias" of the past overlapped with other manias save for some duper dominant ones. For instance, people often bring up how the early 2000's was Britney mania but you could just as easily make the claim that it was Eminem mania too. 1
Kitboga Posted June 26 Posted June 26 (edited) Maybe it's cus she's touring overseas rn? Lol Edited June 26 by Kitboga
greento Posted June 26 Posted June 26 In the UK, she's bigger than ever with her tour being here at the moment. But I can definitely see the Taylor mania phase slowing down next year. She'll still be huge but I think this is her peak right now.
RoseBud Posted June 26 Posted June 26 after draining their monies some have moved to Chappell and Sabrina....
CherryBay Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Nah they are just waiting for another album or TV and variants plus scalpers needs signed copies to sell
PoisonedIvy Posted June 26 Posted June 26 The peak of Taylormania is ABSOLUTELY going to be TS13 by the way, she and her fans will ENSURE it 1
Sad Beautiful Tragic Posted June 26 Posted June 26 11 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Sabrinamania is coming ------ OT: No
SweetOreosOfHeaven Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Yes, despite the amount of screaming crying and throwing up swiffers are doing in this thread. She went from having 5 albums in the top 10 to 1 in the top 20. She's doing 75M daily streams including a new 30+ track release when she did that for only her catalogue before this release. This and the viral hate she keeps getting are obvious signs of an imminent downfall. She might come back stronger again as she tends to do, but I wouldn't bet on it this time, just because she has already had such a massive almost unprecedent peak. 2 1
Klein Posted June 26 Posted June 26 17 minutes ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said: Yes, despite the amount of screaming crying and throwing up swiffers are doing in this thread. She went from having 5 albums in the top 10 to 1 in the top 20. She's doing 75M daily streams including a new 30+ track release when she did that for only her catalogue before this release. This and the viral hate she keeps getting are obvious signs of an imminent downfall. She might come back stronger again as she tends to do, but I wouldn't bet on it this time, just because she has already had such a massive almost unprecedent peak. I already shared my opinion in the thread and it seems we disagree generally on whether or not Taylormania is going away. However, I kinda want to discuss this part about her numbers to share some context. Yes, she did go from 5 albums in the top 10 to 1 in the top 20 in the US... but she also went from touring the US for 6 months to touring the rest of the world. Of course the impact of the tour on her catalogue will slow down numbers-wise in the US when it's been 7 months since she was touring there. I do expect a surge when she goes back to the US later this year. She's also doing the same number of daily streams 2 months after TTPD as opposed to before release... which is a sign that she remains just as popular? There's something to be said about the maximum amount of streams that is possible to reach on normal days (so, outside of releasing weeks or when something special happens). You can't expect her to keep increasing her basal amount of streams infinitely with each release. She was doing 75M leading up to Speak Now TV and went back to it after that. Same with 1989 TV. And now same with TTPD. This indicates that 75M is her normal amount of streams since last year, which doesn't support the idea that Taylormania is fading. If anything, it shows it's still going strong to the same level. She also still gets around the same amount of monthly listeners. So if she has the same amount of streams and monthly listeners, it just indicates that just as many people are listening to her, they just replaced their streams of her catalogue with her newest album. 7
Mr. Duff Posted June 26 Posted June 26 I feel like she's still generating so much more goodwill globally especially with The Eras Tour happening internationally. However I do understand a little bit of the fade because it's just not realistic to sustain that level of peak for a long time,a nd she did astoundingly well! Her catalog is still performing massively but I understand how the discussion can change, which I expected. As much as I like her to sustain the level of popularity she has from 2023 to now, I'm also okay with it diminishing a little bit, I want to enjoy her and not be saturated with her. I feel like with the amount of music she released it helps to not saturate much but eventually she will have to relax and pause for a while, and that will slowly die down Taylormania.
prézli Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Well, she had to bring her boyfriend to the stage to get some attention.
Don Posted June 26 Posted June 26 23 hours ago, hawx23 said: Last year it was impossible to go anywhere online and in person without hearing about Taylor. But for some reason right now it seems all that attention has slowed down. If you look at Google Trends — massive spike last year and then it's fallen: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F0dl567&hl=en Why do you think this is happening? your google link thing is about he US.. she was touring the US last year, now she's in Europe
Badgalbriel Posted June 26 Posted June 26 5 hours ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said: Yes, despite the amount of screaming crying and throwing up swiffers are doing in this thread. She went from having 5 albums in the top 10 to 1 in the top 20. She's doing 75M daily streams including a new 30+ track release when she did that for only her catalogue before this release. This and the viral hate she keeps getting are obvious signs of an imminent downfall. She might come back stronger again as she tends to do, but I wouldn't bet on it this time, just because she has already had such a massive almost unprecedent peak. AN IMMINENT DOWNFALL? 1
Katy V.! Posted June 26 Posted June 26 5 hours ago, PoisonedIvy said: The peak of Taylormania is ABSOLUTELY going to be TS13 by the way, she and her fans will ENSURE it It truly is mind blowing how no one is seeing this coming It might be her Endgame and she'll keep doing Reputation/Lover numbers after that. 1
hawx23 Posted June 26 Author Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Don said: your google link thing is about he US.. she was touring the US last year, now she's in Europe I posted another link, worldwide. Here: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&q=Taylor swift&hl=en Shows the same drop
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