Feanor Posted June 25 Posted June 25 It has peaked with the Super Bowl, but it hasn't faded away, since 'TTPD' continues to be her biggest album release ever 10 weeks in & she remains a main topic of conversation even during other artists release weeks, not to mention that this year has been her biggest one yet so far and depending on if 'reputation (TV)' comes out later this year, 2024 will actually be the biggest year of her career ever. 3 1
NoOneDiesFromLove Posted June 25 Posted June 25 35 minutes ago, Saint James said: you don't need to google Taylor anymore. think about it. any updates ur gonna see straight away on any media. Basically this and the fact that now more than ever so many names are swirling around the female pop music conversation. You've got Sabrina, Olivia, Chappell, Billie, Ariana and that's just in the first semester of 2024. besides, every peak matches music releases, ticket sales, show appearances so I don't think op is interpreting things right because Taylor did just come from having her biggest first week sales ever… 5
JanEgo Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Yea her cult will keep her wealthy but the general public support and cultural relevance are fading as she leans into her worst impulses, as an artist and as a personality. It's kind of embarrassing to be a fan too, like everyone else is side-eyeing more than ever. Will probably be something people don't want to admit publicly within a few years. 4 2 9
byzantium Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Thank goodness the insanity that was the NFL season is over. For an American it might be even more noticeable since she is over in Europe this summer but Taylor is still by far the most streamed artist and currently has the number one album in the country.
Digitalism Posted June 25 Posted June 25 No one stays on their peak forever. And stans are worst at realizing when their favs are falling from the peak. Sales and tour numbers don't matter. People like Madonna have big debuts and spend weeks at #1 with big tours past their prime. That is a powerfull fanbase. It does not mean they are not fading 1
Arrows Posted June 25 Posted June 25 1 minute ago, JanEgo said: It's kind of embarrassing to be a fan too, like everyone else is side-eyeing more than ever. Will probably be something people don't want to admit publicly within a few years. Admitting to liking Taylor was basically social suicide between 2012-2020 lmao, she'll be more than fine this time. 4 1
Popular Post Feanor Posted June 25 Popular Post Posted June 25 18 minutes ago, Trent W said: She has being getting backlash for everything she does since the grammys That was not happening in 2023 This most definitely is not true. Taylor has received "backlash" every single year of her career, 2023 was no different. Her trying to block 'SOS' from #1 one week got backlash. Her having 4 vinyl variants for '1989 (TV)' got backlash, her remix with Ice Spice got backlash, her tour was criticized a lot online (guess what year that reputation' dancing gif is from ), her appearing at NFL games got backlash, the entire Matty Healy saga alone… 21 minutes ago, Trent W said: You have to remember her fanbase lives in their own world Just like the people behind those backlashes. 15 1
NEX Posted June 25 Posted June 25 I think she oversaturated herself in 2023/early 2024. The superbowl was the absolute peak of Taylormania. You can see how time pendulum started swinging in the other direction around that time (the Grammys + the Superbowl). She's still massive of course, but people are seriously tired of her and are actively rooting for her downfall. The "reputation tv" that the Swifties are so hopeful for will not aid the situation and will only add to the oversaturation. 2017 was an entirely different beast. She was able to change the perception around the scandal by positioning herself as a victim. This time around she has instead emerged as a bully herself, digging up decade old drama with Kim (despite asking multiple times to be excluded from the narrative) and getting a reputation of a success hungry and greedy chartist who is willing to walk over her competition using shady tactics. 2 7 4
piotrert Posted June 25 Posted June 25 9 minutes ago, JanEgo said: It's kind of embarrassing to be a fan too, like everyone else is side-eyeing more than ever. Will probably be something people don't want to admit publicly within a few years. were you not born in 2014?
The Music Industry Posted June 25 Posted June 25 1 hour ago, hawx23 said: If you look at Google Trends — massive spike last year and then it's fallen: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F0dl567&hl=en "Massive spikes last year" yet it shows that her 2 biggest peaks of the last few years were in the last few months (February and April), so....? 2
Feanor Posted June 25 Posted June 25 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Digitalism said: No one stays on their peak forever. And stans are worst at realizing when their favs are falling from the peak. Sales and tour numbers don't matter. And Google searches do? Let's add Wikipedia translations too while we're at it. 9 minutes ago, Digitalism said: People like Madonna have big debuts and spend weeks at #1 with big tours past their prime. That is a powerfull fanbase. It does not mean they are not fading You do realize that Madonna has zero albums that have spent multiple weeks at #1 in the US this side of 1990 right? So no, people like Madonna don't spend weeks on end at #1 past their prime. Edited June 25 by Feanor 1 6 1
laqqinq Posted June 25 Posted June 25 I think the lead up to the Taylormania began well around with Folklore/Evermore, reached new highs when the re-recordings cycle begun, and became INESCAPABLE or MASSIVE during Midnights era and once the Eras Tour started. In my personal opinion and from my personal experience, it still remains at an all-time high, thanks to the tour, her music exploding, re-recordings, new albums, NFL, her relationship, and at last, and mainly - Taylor and her huge public image and celebrity, herself. It feels slightly subdued because of people getting tired due to the overexposure (which is okay, it happens) but I see it going on till the end of the tour and the re-recording cycle. It is difficult to let go of this exposure and everything surrounding/bounding it after staying in it for a long while, and at the heights of it, like chemicals releasing. But she might take a break to rest after the tour or TS12 and then maybe return in 2026 with that movie she is directing.
JanEgo Posted June 25 Posted June 25 5 minutes ago, piotrert said: were you not born in 2014? There's a difference between what's happening now and why it was embarrassing to be seen as a Taylor fan in the 2010s when she was seen as a corny teeny bopper act. She had a chance to transition to mature artist and was well on her way, but blew it with these latest releases and overexposure tactics. 1 1
Cleanromantic Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Oh so now taylormania is a real thing? You people almost had an aneurysm denying its happening last year, but now that it is used in a negative light it's real , you people are embarrassing. 3 12 3
JoJo Posted June 25 Posted June 25 1 hour ago, By the Water said: And yet Taylor always finds a way to worm herself into these conversations without even doing anything so... Taylor is my number one artist. I didn't say that to be shady It's a fact that other artists have been huge this year. That's not to say Taylor isn't big because she's still the music industry, but she absolutely isn't dominating the culture of 2024 like she dominated 2023. That's not a bad thing
Mandalore Posted June 25 Posted June 25 I kinda wish so I didn't have to witness her haters' mass psychosis and 100 threads about every little thing she does. People who don't even go here giving their opinions on what she should or is allowed to do like it's a damn election. Alas, the hype train is still going fast, choo choo! 3 4
DevilsRollTheDice Posted June 25 Posted June 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trent W said: Her numbers are still massive but you can tell she has lost a lot of the GP. In 2023 she was loved and praised non-stop It's very weird because TTPD is kind of her biggest album but public opinion on her is very negative in mid 2024 "A lot of the GP" here being the echo chamber of Twitter and ATRL. In the real world, the tour continues to be a monster and, as you say, TTPD is her most successful release ever. It's spent more weeks at number one than many pop girls have spent in their entire careers. Twitter discourse (that is also heavily skewed depending on any given person's algorithm) is not an actual indicator of Taylor's public image. Her tour, streams, and sales are. Edited June 25 by DevilsRollTheDice
LOTF Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Her fans always on the defensive The mania is definitely past its peak, that's undeniable, that doesn't mean she is a flop now. Gosh.... 1
ATRL Moderator Juánny Posted June 25 ATRL Moderator Posted June 25 1 hour ago, Digitalism said: Sales and tour numbers don't matter. I’m genuinely curious as to what you think matters when considering an artist’s success profile if sales, streaming, and touring stats are not listed on your bingo card. - I do agree the ‘mania’ is past its huge US peak early this year. Anything can still happen to reinvigorate what we were seeing previously, the media are still interested in reporting on her. 2
DoubleRainbow! Posted June 25 Posted June 25 I mean, she's still making headlines and the Travis appereance was another big moment for her just this weekend, she always finds a way to attract attention. but the "she sounds the same", "long ass album" comments are at their highest level among the GP 1
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