X~MoviePoP Posted June 22 Posted June 22 I get it..but let's not act like he isnt and wasnt talented. 1 7
Cbreezy Posted June 22 Posted June 22 As a Black Janet stan, I feel I "should" be getting my life to these JT lashings, but I a) feel almost sorry for him. Almost. Less empathetic but more pity and b) above all, something just feels so disingenuous about it all happening...now. Where were all these think pieces in the heat of Janet's blacklisting? Or even the dawn of the social media era? I don't recall any "viral threads" or bold, go-against-the-grain-of-JTs-popularity write-ups from any major publications. I also don't feel any doc delivered any "new" information the masses didn't have already when it comes to his role. Put simply, JT was popping Justified through to 20/20 Experience, so there was a very clear "back the popular ac"t mantra from most. It's very telling that the anti-JT schtick mirrors his commercial decline (which, like most acts, was an inevitability anyway). Again, it makes the current lashings taste so...fake. At the same time, throwing those lashing him a bone, maybe just maybe those who were younger and "woker" back then have grown and are now in the position to articulate the fullness of their stance. I personally don't see it this way, but hey...it's a possibility. Can any of the JanFam or Britney Army relate? 1 4
dumbsparce Posted June 22 Posted June 22 7 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: As a Black Janet stan, I feel I "should" be getting my life to these JT lashings, but I a) feel almost sorry for him. Almost. Less empathetic but more pity and b) above all, something just feels so disingenuous about it all happening...now. Where were all these think pieces in the heat of Janet's blacklisting? Or even the dawn of the social media era? I don't recall any "viral threads" or bold, go-against-the-grain-of-JTs-popularity write-ups from any major publications. I also don't feel any doc delivered any "new" information the masses didn't have already when it comes to his role. Put simply, JT was popping Justified through to 20/20 Experience, so there was a very clear "back the popular ac"t mantra from most. It's very telling that the anti-JT schtick mirrors his commercial decline (which, like most acts, was an inevitability anyway). Again, it makes the current lashings taste so...fake. At the same time, throwing those lashing him a bone, maybe just maybe those who were younger and "woker" back then have grown and are now in the position to articulate the fullness of their stance. I personally don't see it this way, but hey...it's a possibility. Can any of the JanFam or Britney Army relate? Couldn't have said it better myself. I get nothing from celebrities getting lashed, but if this happened back when I was a teenager I would at least crack a villainous smile as a fan of both Britney and Janet. Now, it's just too little too late. I'm a grown person and, like you said, I feel pity when I see someone who's obviously struggling with something getting publicly ridiculed for mistakes they did in their younger years. 2
Mandalay Posted June 22 Posted June 22 I don't even follow him on social media and his mugshot pops up regularly, just like Jlo flopping news. Well, he kinda has replaced Jlo in that regard.
TouchinFree Posted June 22 Posted June 22 51 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: Couldn't have said it better myself. I get nothing from celebrities getting lashed, but if this happened back when I was a teenager I would at least crack a villainous smile as a fan of both Britney and Janet. Now, it's just too little too late. I'm a grown person and, like you said, I feel pity when I see someone who's obviously struggling with something getting publicly ridiculed for mistakes they did in their younger years. I agree. He was riding so high and considered to be a legend even after all that he's done. But let's not forget that society overall back then was incredibly mysygonistic and di not care one bit. This backlash would've been alot more effective had it been 2004 during his peak or in 2007 when he was kicking Britney down further whilst he was successful. It could be karma taking matters. But I don't know what to do with all this. It seems useless like you said especially now that we are adults. 1
Jay07 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Cbreezy said: As a Black Janet stan, I feel I "should" be getting my life to these JT lashings, but I a) feel almost sorry for him. Almost. Less empathetic but more pity and b) above all, something just feels so disingenuous about it all happening...now. Where were all these think pieces in the heat of Janet's blacklisting? Or even the dawn of the social media era? I don't recall any "viral threads" or bold, go-against-the-grain-of-JTs-popularity write-ups from any major publications. I also don't feel any doc delivered any "new" information the masses didn't have already when it comes to his role. Put simply, JT was popping Justified through to 20/20 Experience, so there was a very clear "back the popular ac"t mantra from most. It's very telling that the anti-JT schtick mirrors his commercial decline (which, like most acts, was an inevitability anyway). Again, it makes the current lashings taste so...fake. At the same time, throwing those lashing him a bone, maybe just maybe those who were younger and "woker" back then have grown and are now in the position to articulate the fullness of their stance. I personally don't see it this way, but hey...it's a possibility. Can any of the JanFam or Britney Army relate? Very astute. The current lashings feel more like kicking someone who is already on a commercial downturn than a legitimate reckoning of the systemic sexism and racism within the music industry. Janet and Britney have gotten their flowers to a certain extent but I don't know if the industry will change in any legitimate way, there's still so much exploitation and abuse rampant. If anything, I don't think there will be another "golden boy" that will ascend the throne on the backs of women and POC. At least I hope not. 1
Gorjesspazze9 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Justin didn't exploit our culture. Are you guys being serious right now. And not white gays that don't even know anything about R&B downvoting yall can drag Justin for being a dumbass for driving under the influence and being a prick. But stop the cap about his talent and impact on pop music. Also stop that dumb **** about him cosplaying or Exploiting rap & Urban music, when he has been a fan of it before most the users here were born. T.I, Jay Z, 50Cent, Micheal Jackson and more wouldn't endorse him if he wasn't a real one. Stick with your pop girls, and stop acting like JT is white mediocrity. 1 1 1 1
slw84 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 4 hours ago, Cbreezy said: As a Black Janet stan, I feel I "should" be getting my life to these JT lashings, but I a) feel almost sorry for him. Almost. Less empathetic but more pity and b) above all, something just feels so disingenuous about it all happening...now. Where were all these think pieces in the heat of Janet's blacklisting? Or even the dawn of the social media era? I don't recall any "viral threads" or bold, go-against-the-grain-of-JTs-popularity write-ups from any major publications. I also don't feel any doc delivered any "new" information the masses didn't have already when it comes to his role. Put simply, JT was popping Justified through to 20/20 Experience, so there was a very clear "back the popular ac"t mantra from most. It's very telling that the anti-JT schtick mirrors his commercial decline (which, like most acts, was an inevitability anyway). Again, it makes the current lashings taste so...fake. At the same time, throwing those lashing him a bone, maybe just maybe those who were younger and "woker" back then have grown and are now in the position to articulate the fullness of their stance. I personally don't see it this way, but hey...it's a possibility. Can any of the JanFam or Britney Army relate? I get you are Janet stan, but this would have been even better if you included Britney more, considering this article is also about him exploiting women. People were supporting him even more before the Janet stunt. Some people started sideeyeing him after the Janet stunt as he had done certain things against Britney and people went with the popular act per se and chalked it up to him retaliating due to heartbreak. Right now people are going after him because it is popular just like they were supporting his antics when he was popular. It's easy to see through.
slw84 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 2 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said: Justin didn't exploit our culture. Are you guys being serious right now. And not white gays that don't even know anything about R&B downvoting yall can drag Justin for being a dumbass for driving under the influence and being a prick. But stop the cap about his talent and impact on pop music. Also stop that dumb **** about him cosplaying or Exploiting rap & Urban music, when he has been a fan of it before most the users here were born. T.I, Jay Z, 50Cent, Micheal Jackson and more wouldn't endorse him if he wasn't a real one. Stick with your pop girls, and stop acting like JT is white mediocrity. Well, I am black and many black people agree that he not only exploited our culture but appropriated it as well. No one has said he's not talented. You listing rappers who are not "real ones" themselves as many have been accused of being informants, selling out, doing bad things to their own community to make more money is not a strong argument. Why would you list those rappers of all people to give anyone credibility of being real. If anything THEY are examples of rappers who had no problem assisting him in his agenda as it was to help them garner more pop support. Neither side is clean there. 4
princedonte Posted June 22 Posted June 22 2 minutes ago, slw84 said: Well, I am black and many black people agree that he not only exploited our culture but appropriated it as well. No one has said he's not talented. You listing rappers who are not "real ones" themselves as many have been accused of being informants, selling out, doing bad things to their own community to make more money is not a strong argument. Why would you list those rappers of all people to give anyone credibility of being real. If anything THEY are examples of rappers who had no problem assisting him in his agenda as it was to help them garner more pop support. Neither side is clean there. Absolute hogwash. "not real ones" just picking and choosing anything just to fit a narrative. Very divisive against anyone who dares not fall in with your view.
Mariya Takeuchi Posted June 23 Posted June 23 it's the way Prince gets forgotten in all this jt mocked him when he accepted an award on P's behalf, said **** about him in interviews, when P playfully acknowledged sexy back jt then disses him on record and then this ***** does a tribute to him? FOH
BraveNewSeth Posted June 23 Posted June 23 9 hours ago, Cbreezy said: As a Black Janet stan, I feel I "should" be getting my life to these JT lashings, but I a) feel almost sorry for him. Almost. Less empathetic but more pity and b) above all, something just feels so disingenuous about it all happening...now. Where were all these think pieces in the heat of Janet's blacklisting? Or even the dawn of the social media era? I don't recall any "viral threads" or bold, go-against-the-grain-of-JTs-popularity write-ups from any major publications. I also don't feel any doc delivered any "new" information the masses didn't have already when it comes to his role. Put simply, JT was popping Justified through to 20/20 Experience, so there was a very clear "back the popular ac"t mantra from most. It's very telling that the anti-JT schtick mirrors his commercial decline (which, like most acts, was an inevitability anyway). Again, it makes the current lashings taste so...fake. At the same time, throwing those lashing him a bone, maybe just maybe those who were younger and "woker" back then have grown and are now in the position to articulate the fullness of their stance. I personally don't see it this way, but hey...it's a possibility. Can any of the JanFam or Britney Army relate? I'm happy he got arrested. Not because I feel vindicated for what he did to Britney and Janet, but because I have a friend who was killed by a drunk driver and I loathe them with a passion. But overall I agree with what you said. What's happening to Justin right now in his life and career isn't karma, his career is just naturally slowing down and he's becoming a legacy act, and it seems like he's having trouble coping with that fact. For this to be karma it would've had to happen like 15 years ago, but the fact that it's happening now is pointless. Justin got to live out the full potential of his career. He had several successful albums, (what appears to be?) a successful acting career, won tons of awards and recognition… all off the backs of Janet and Britney, who both had their careers cut short due to his tomfoolery. I'm certainly not shedding a tear over what's happening to him now, and I definitely don't pity him. But I'm not jumping for joy like certain people are either. It's not going to help Britney or Janet so what's the point?
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