other stats Proof that Sabrina Carpenter's current success is not connected to the Eras Tour

[Da Vinci]

It's not like that's a bad thing? At least we know the cause of her surge and it's not something suspicious and if the GP didn't like the music in the first place there would be no such surge no matter how many times she performs at Eras

[MonsterNavy]

of course it is. its also connected to spotify's autoplay and payola

[mxoonlight]

She was building when she booked it but her current success is because of payola. And I love her! It is what it is. Maybe Eras helped the people that decide that payola want to invest in her, maybe not. Who cares? Stream her!

[Moonlight Nation]

1 hour ago, bielneira said:

Well, "Espresso" was the first song she released after touring with the biggest artist in the world right now during the biggest world tour of all time. It's not that hard to think...

girl in red, GAYLE, and beabadoobee all released new music + projects during and after their stints as opening acts of "The Eras Tour", with minimal mainstream attention and commercial impact. Even a more established act like Paramore didn't get significant renewed attention to their back catalogue after performing on Taylor's tour.

 

Sabrina definitely benefitted from the exposure, but she actively took advantage of it to boost her profile in a way the other opening acts struggled with.

[Moonlight Nation]

Double post. 

 

Speaking of Sabrina Carpenter and fellow "Eras" opening acts, shout-out to this super underrated gem. Would love to see it getting more attention following the smashery of "Espresso" and "Please Please Please". Such a killer tune!

 

 

Edited June 21 by Moonlight Nation

[bielneira]

3 minutes ago, Moonlight Nation said:

girl in red, GAYLE, and beabadoobee all released new music + projects during and after their stints as opening acts of "The Eras Tour", with minimal mainstream attention and commercial impact. Even a more established act like Paramore didn't get significant renewed attention to their back catalogue after performing on Taylor's tour.

 

Sabrina definitely benefitted from the exposure, but she actively took advantage of it to boost her profile in a way the other opening acts struggled with.

I never said that The Eras Tour or Taylor were solely responsible for Sabrina's success. Sabrina has a long career, and she already experienced some kind of success with "Nonsense" and "Feather", but arguing that that factor "is not connected" to her success...

 

[Hector]

It is NOT all autoplay:

 

 

[XO_Life]

If anything this chart proofs the opposite

 

[Gaia]

2 hours ago, 305 said:

You have to be slow to not recognize that opening for the biggest tour of all time would have a huge effect 

Again, why aren't all the tour openers now smashing WW? Why only Sabrina?

[Gaia]

28 minutes ago, Moonlight Nation said:

girl in red, GAYLE, and beabadoobee all released new music + projects during and after their stints as opening acts of "The Eras Tour", with minimal mainstream attention and commercial impact. Even a more established act like Paramore didn't get significant renewed attention to their back catalogue after performing on Taylor's tour.

 

Sabrina definitely benefitted from the exposure, but she actively took advantage of it to boost her profile in a way the other opening acts struggled with.

It's insane how Swifties continue to ignore that Sabrina is one of MANY openers and none of them are smashing like she is. It was cute exposure for her, sure. But it is NOT the reason she blew up. 

[RobynYoBank]

Looks more like evidence her success is due to the Eras Tour.

[Holiest Dreams]

1 hour ago, Da Vinci said:

It's not like that's a bad thing? At least we know the cause of her surge and it's not something suspicious and if the GP didn't like the music in the first place there would be no such surge no matter how many times she performs at Eras

People are so blinded by their hatred for Taylor to act like this is a bad thing or negative for Sabrina. I can't speak for *every* single person, but most Swifties are not saying "Taylor made Sabrina famous!!!" - that's far from what's being said.

 

It's a combination of a lot of things. She's been hustling for a decade now and it finally paid off. The Eras slot boosted her popularity a lot and exposed her to a wider audience, but she booked that slot because of her years of hustling.  
 

Also, using other opening acts isn't a good comparison since Sabrina already had the largest fanbase and discography out of all of them. She's clearly hungry for success (as she should be, we love to see it) and capitalized off her hype. She is being smart.

[RobynYoBank]

30 minutes ago, Gaia said:

It's insane how Swifties continue to ignore that Sabrina is one of MANY openers and none of them are smashing like she is. It was cute exposure for her, sure. But it is NOT the reason she blew up. 

I doubt anyone is saying that being a tour opener for Taylor is the sole ingredient needed for success. But she's had quite the list of tour openers…Justin Bieber, Ed Sheeran, Shawn Mendes, Sabrina Carpenter, Camila Cabello.

[Gaia]

11 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said:

I doubt anyone is saying that being a tour opener for Taylor is the sole ingredient needed for success. But she's had quite the list of tour openers…Justin Bieber, Ed Sheeran, Shawn Mendes, Sabrina Carpenter, Camila Cabello.

There's just no reason for Swifties to try and attribute Sabrina's success to Taylor in anyway. The obsession with success has bled into believing that any up and coming artist also owes their success to Taylor in some way. It's weird. 
 

Also every single Sabrina thread about her success has had Swifties being like "Wow ever since the eras tour she's blown up! :o" 

 

Like get a grip. No one is saying "oh my gosh I love that espresso song by the girl who sang at the eras tour!"

 

 

opening for an act doesn't mean they're the reason for your success. Chappell Roan opened for Olivia Rodrigo. Is Olivia the reason Chappell is a success? 
 

Espresso would have blown up regardless as feather was taking off already before the eras tour. And she was already going that camp and cheeky lyrics direction.

Edited June 21 by Gaia

[cat1867]

Artists book opening gigs for the extra exposure to boost their career. Almost every major star  including taylor used their extra exposure from opening to get to the next level.

 

Sabrina leveraged the exposure the best of any of the opener's on taylor's tour. 

 

it's why opening is a thing in the first place.

[RobynYoBank]

10 minutes ago, Gaia said:

There's just no reason for Swifties to try and attribute Sabrina's success to Taylor in anyway. The obsession with success has bled into believing that any up and coming artist also owes their success to Taylor in some way. It's weird. 
 

Also every single Sabrina thread about her success has had Swifties being like "Wow ever since the eras tour she's blown up! :o" 

 

Like get a grip. No one is saying "oh my gosh I love that espresso song by the girl who sang at the eras tour!"

 

 

opening for an act doesn't mean they're the reason for your success. Chappell Roan opened for Olivia Rodrigo. Is Olivia the reason Chappell is a success? 
 

Espresso would have blown up regardless as feather was taking off already before the eras tour. And she was already going that camp and cheeky lyrics direction.

There's plenty of reason to attribute significant part of success to Eras Tour and her proximity to Taylor's fanbase in general. Sabrina has already released five studio albums, and pretty much all of her popular success has been since her recent proximity to Taylor. Frankly, I'm inclined to say that Guts World Tour is also major reason Chappell Roan is seeing success now too. It brought her the exposure she needed with compatible fan base.

Edited June 21 by RobynYoBank

[PoisonedIvy]

1 hour ago, Gaia said:

Again, why aren't all the tour openers now smashing WW? Why only Sabrina?

Because those artists did not use their exposure to release a commercially viable single. Almost all of Taylor's openers are aligned with an indie soft rock sound that is not universally palatable in the same way Espresso is. Sabrina was a perfect storm of commercial viability with widespread audience exposure. The other openers were lacking the commercial viability. 

[RoseBud]

3 hours ago, Kitboga said:

It's connected to auto play wbk. When her new album rolls around and does like 80k, none of you should be surprised. 

  She is going over 300 K easy

[Arrows]

It wasn't the direct catalyst, but it laid the necessary groundwork.

[RoseBud]

  Oh the backfire....

[Doctor Dick]

Many people became aware of Sabrina after the whole Olivia debacle back in 2021. She landed on my radar again after dating Barry Keoghan and then she sort of disappeared again but Emails I Can't Send was recommended to me a few times and all of this was prior to Eras tour. She then joined that tour and gained more traction but Paramore isn't having any hits post opening for Taylor and Chappell Roan is gaining traction after opening for Olivia so should Olivia also be credited for that? 

 

3 hours ago, Taylena said:

Maybe not in the US based on streams but if we look at Google searches of her name worldwide there was definitely a big uptick after she joined the Eras tour in late 2023 until the end of the Asian leg in March. She even dipped slightly after the tour ended but she eventually skyrocketed again once Espresso was released and since then her popularity went stratospheric. 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Selegend said:

Not everything in life is black & white. 

Of course The Eras Tour helped cuz it gave her a platform, the tour is viral LIKE CRAZY on tiktok and her doing an amazing opening show got her tons of viral videos, the Feather dance and etc. 

 

Sabrina is gaining traction since E-mails i can't send album release, got bigger with Nonsense outros, The Eras Tour gave her a platform, Feather became a hit and with all of that combined (so yes, The Eras Tour did help a lot, not only that, but it did help without a doubt) she got her huge moment now. 

 

It's a combination of things. and it's always like this. 

 

An already released album like e-mails will never get the same boost from an opening tour that she's getting now with Espresso and PPP that are new songs. 

It's different. The timing is now. It's true that she was slowly gaining traction but The Eras levereged it.  

 

Sabrina's name had the largest uptick on Google following the release of Driver's License and then following the release of Espresso. Her 2023 stint on the Eras tour had little upticks, nothing noteworthy until she released Espresso. So if we put her on the map because of Taylor we should also put Chappell on because of Olivia. 

[simmnfierzig]

Well the biggest reason is that people love Espresso and Please Please Please

[thatsmydemi]

Saying that her success is not connected to the Eras Tour is as wrong as those that say that her success is only because of autoplay/payola. 

[Moonlight Nation]

14 hours ago, cat1867 said:

Artists book opening gigs for the extra exposure to boost their career. Almost every major star  including taylor used their extra exposure from opening to get to the next level.

 

Sabrina leveraged the exposure the best of any of the opener's on taylor's tour. 

 

it's why opening is a thing in the first place.

 

14 hours ago, Arrows said:

It wasn't the direct catalyst, but it laid the necessary groundwork.

 

/endthread

[OnikaSlays]

I mean you clearly can't say Taylor is responsible for all of her success, but I doubt she would've exploded the way she did without The Eras Tour.

Edited June 22 by OnikaSlays