CroNich Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 30 minutes ago, spiritboy said: Well then, you can stay bitter about it while we enjoy new music I really do hope you get to enjoy Woman's World, sounds like its going to be her best and most successful song yet 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Outlaws Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 Just so we're clear: you don't have to applaud EVERYTHING your faves do. You're allowed to dislike them, criticize them, etc. from time to time. That doesn't change anything... Can't believe people try to defend stuff like this. 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritboy Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 We don't defend, we simply don't care. 🤷🏻♂️ 2 1 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 She's been giving Republican vibes ever since Witness flopped. Dissapointed but not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonPill Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 hours ago, Outlaws said: Just so we're clear: you don't have to applaud EVERYTHING your faves do. You're allowed to dislike them, criticize them, etc. from time to time. That doesn't change anything... Can't believe people try to defend stuff like this. I don't think this is a black-and-white situation. I can understand the perspective of both people who don't think it's horrible to work with this producer, as well as those who think it's a horrific offense. It is worth noting that Dr. Luke was never found guilty or liable by any court of law, in fact a court dismissed some of Kesha's claims against him. And of course, Kesha and Luke ultimately ended up settling out of court and released a joint statement essentially saying the matter is closed. 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 17 minutes ago, PoisonPill said: It is worth noting that Dr. Luke was never found guilty or liable by any court of law, in fact a court dismissed some of Kesha's claims against him. Kesha's claims have never been dismissed on the merits and Dr. Luke could not possibly have been found guilty because he settled once it became clear he would not win a jury trial after Kesha's victories at New York's highest court which even reinstated her anti-SLAPP counterclaim. These points are superficial "gotcha" arguments by people that are neither familiar with the underlying facts of this case nor interested in engaging with the matter. This isn't directed at you specifically and I know these things are sometimes said in good faith, but these "arguments" need to be called out and refuted. 3 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonPill Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 6 minutes ago, TomTom said: Kesha's claims have never been dismissed on the merits and Dr. Luke could not possibly have been found guilty because he settled once it became clear he would not win a jury trial after Kesha's victories at New York's highest court which even reinstated her anti-SLAPP counterclaim. These points are superficial "gotcha" arguments by people that are neither familiar with the underlying facts of this case nor interested in engaging with the matter. This isn't directed at you specifically and I know these things are sometimes said in good faith, but these "arguments" need to be called out and refuted. Thank you for filling in these details (I mean that genuinely!). The point was more that I can understand why some people aren't outraged about an artist working with Luke. For someone who isn't on stan twitter or deeply read-in on the situation, from afar it looks like Kesha settled/dropped her claims for a payout and then her press release really muddied the waters with that "Only God knows that really happened" line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpressMeMuch Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 why are the kats ok with **** like this??? 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 11 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said: why are the kats ok with **** like this??? Oh, it gets a lot worse. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpressMeMuch Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 8 minutes ago, TomTom said: Oh, it gets a lot worse. Oof, absolutely disgusting I had no idea they were like this whew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 11 hours ago, spiritboy said: Well then, you can stay bitter about it while we enjoy new music #ItsAWomansWorld #ShesSoStrong #ShesSoSmart #FeminineDivine 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccioMiley Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Katy sucks and so do her brain dead katycats. Its just science at this point 10 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Meanwhile go to stream or buy Kesha's latest album 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HASHTAGPOW Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) The fact that they didn't even use any of his pseudonyms... Edited June 22 by HASHTAGPOW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhabylon Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, TomTom said: Oh, it gets a lot worse. Making themselves look like damn fools over someone with no talent and no musical ability 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritboy Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Communion said: #ItsAWomansWorld #ShesSoStrong #ShesSoSmart #FeminineDivine I don't believe her. At the end of the day it's our choice whose to believe in and i don't believe what Kesha says. I also don't give a damn about what you guys think about my opinions. 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 38 minutes ago, spiritboy said: I don't believe her. I don't believe what Kesha says. I mean, yes, I'm not shocked that supporters of a violent minsogynst like luke are also, like yourself, violent misogynists. you have the right to continually openly share that you're a violent minsogynst, but you can't be shocked when openly ridiculing someone who speaks of being raped doesn't endear you to anyone. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 3 hours ago, ImpressMeMuch said: Oof, absolutely disgusting I had no idea they were like this whew Like fave like stan I guess, Taylor have warned us before. Katy tries to act cool, edgy but she's so tone deaf to the point she doesn't realize she's doing too much, simply mean and crossing the lines. Now her fan imitates her problematic behavior, I'm not surprise if they think those posts are joke, nothing serious, just their kind of humor 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMIT Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 3 hours ago, spiritboy said: I don't believe her. At the end of the day it's our choice whose to believe in and i don't believe what Kesha says. I also don't give a damn about what you guys think about my opinions. you'll be going STRAIGHT to hell soon xoxo 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkpw Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 do you all think she's going to have a smash hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkpw Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 17 hours ago, AMIT said: you'll be going STRAIGHT to hell soon xoxo Edited June 22 by wkpw i changed my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEUTRON Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 bops on bops on bops incoming 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) On 6/19/2024 at 10:57 AM, BryceG said: You genuinely have no idea how close a session with Kesha was. Her lol is likely about the overall situation. It's way more nuanced than you realise. Banned Edited June 23 by Communion 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxoonlight Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 On 6/21/2024 at 6:42 PM, ImpressMeMuch said: why are the kats ok with **** like this??? They haven't matured a day since Dark Horse left the charts, I guess? It really does not read well for what you've taken away from life at all if the hope of someone you like being relevant again like they were when you were young makes you act like the way people have been acting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tistotal Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) On 6/21/2024 at 6:57 PM, TomTom said: Oh, it gets a lot worse. Disgusting, you shouldn't follow them. She deserves the lashings for working with him if it's true, but not for his actions. Edited June 23 by Tistotal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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