celeb news Kesha posts shady tweet "LOL"

[manuelalex9810]

10 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

So you acknowledge that they were private texts, but also want to act like they were saying these things in a public manner? I'm genuinely confused as to what you think happened because these ideas are inherently contradictory. They were not saying these things directly to Katy - they were discussing between themselves. 
 

Also emotions can in fact be complicated - you can be frustrated with someone and still be empathetic. Things aren't always black and white where you can only think and feel one thing about someone at a time. 

The point is they acted with 0 empathy towards an alleged victim, it doesn't matter if it was public or private the conversation, it wasn't directed towards Katy but they were talking about a victim saying she wasn't strong for not wanting to tell her story for Kesha to win her case. That's the point, they were not empathetic they wanted to use her as a pawn and Katy herself says she was upset about it. 

[Bimbo]

1 hour ago, Sugar-Rush said:

It's weird to me that Katy had a whole woke era just 7 years ago, but now wants to work with an alleged rapist again. What was the whole point of Witness then?

There's a reason it bombed, the entire GP could see right through her desperation and fake wokeness. She's proven time and time again she's quite... stupid.

 

[QueenB]

39 minutes ago, TomTom said:

 

3. "Katy has shown solidarity with Kesha"

At no point in time has Katy ever shown any kind of solidarity with Kesha whatsoever. Katy testified in her deposition that she decided not to work with Dr. Luke on Witness out of fear for her reputation and not out of solidarity with Kesha. Dr. Luke testified that Katy told him he'd have to "sit this one out". "This one" being Witness. In sum, everything points to Katy never actually wanting to stop working with Dr. Luke and especially not permanently. Her behavior stands in massive contrast to Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Demi Lovato, Miley Cyrus, Kelly Clarkson, P!nk, Adele and others who all have more or less directly supported Kesha in public or revealed their personal issues with Dr. Luke. Katy's deposition is filled with tone-deaf remarks like "Dr. Luke deserves to have a big ego, he has over 20 #1 songs" that are totally out of place in the context of a person you allegedly disapprove of. The fact that Katy gave interviews talking about her "healthy relationship" with Dr. Luke throughout the lawsuit for no apparent reason further undermines the "solidarity" narrative. 

 

 

 

I just want to add to this, it was probably in Kesha's best interest Katy didn't say "I would never work with dr luke again" because the lawsuit was trying to prove Ke$ha tarnished Dr Luke's career so bad that he lost out on gigs. But Katy was blatantly not wanting to get involved at all in the lawsuit, and said she was irritated at dr luke using her as a pawn as well. From People:

 

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In the deposition, Perry expressed frustration at both the fact that Lady Gaga and Kesha had texted each other about the allegation — and that the music producer was trying to use Perry's testimony to prove his innocence in his ongoing lawsuit.

Perry said that she felt "annoyed" and "pissed off that she would bring me into it in this way" after learning of the private text messages, which were first revealed during the defamation suit. She went on to say that she felt "annoyed at both Luke and Kesha."

"He knows I'm a tie breaker," she explained. "Because when I say that I wasn't raped, because I was not, that means that someone's lying."

"And I want to stay out of it because I know them both and I empathize with both of them and obviously it's a horrible situation for both of them. And the only two people that know what really went on are those two people," she said. "But Luke was using me as a pawn because it's a good play."

 

Kesha unintentionally threw Katy under a bus with those texts, she couldn't have known those texts would come up but either way it was said, and Katy has every right to feel betrayed by those messages... That being said I still hate dr luke and wish katy just wouldn't work with him 

[AccioMiley]

Get her, Jade!!

[cloudbusting]

7 minutes ago, manuelalex9810 said:

The point is they acted with 0 empathy towards an alleged victim, it doesn't matter if it was public or private the conversation, it wasn't directed towards Katy but they were talking about a victim saying she wasn't strong for not wanting to tell her story for Kesha to win her case. That's the point, they were not empathetic they wanted to use her as a pawn and Katy herself says she was upset about it. 

okay so basically we're moving the goalposts and twisting their words to make it seem like they're big bully meanies, got it

[manuelalex9810]

Just now, cloudbusting said:

okay so basically we're moving the goalposts and twisting their words to make it seem like they're big bully meanies, got it

It's what they did 
 

"she's not as strong as you yet."

[Space Cowboy]

I support Katy. 

[SmittenCake]

Just now, manuelalex9810 said:

It's what they did 
 

"she's not as strong as you yet."

How is Gaga saying "she's not as strong as you yet" a form of mockery!? She seems sympathetic, believing that Katy was harmed. However, she's too afraid to confront the attacker (luke) because she's worried about jeopardizing her career. How is this sinister?

 

you guys need to redirect all of this ANGER to Katheryn Perry. Even after she got skull dragged for months for promoting Republicans she still managed to garner some hype and now that's all gone because SHE chose to work with Luke.

 

kinda like Iggy ruining everything coz she wanted to work with Torey. Kii. 

[SmittenCake]

1 minute ago, Space Cowboy said:

I support Katy. 

in what? at least elaborate. I know your entire shtick is being this eboy edge lord or whatever. 

[Vixen Eyes]

i cannot WAIT for Kesha's album to hit #1 whilst Katy's is nowhere to be seen in the charts

 

[TomTom]

15 minutes ago, QueenB said:

and said she was irritated at dr luke using her as a pawn as well

The point is that this obvious fact seemingly had no impact on Katy's behavior. She wasn't just irritated, her lawyers also tried to keep her deposition under seal - against Dr. Luke's wishes. Kesha had no issue with Katy's deposition remaining sealed, but Dr. Luke insisted on it becoming public. How can you run back to someone who was your adversary in court when it comes to your privacy? 

Edited June 18 by TomTom

[dawnettakins]

Oh wow at the kittykats and their mental gymnastics in here. Katheryn is truly over for good huh.

[QueenB]

2 minutes ago, TomTom said:

The point is that this obvious fact seemingly had no impact on Katy's behavior. She wasn't just irritated, her lawyers also tried to keep her deposition under seal - against Dr. Luke's wishes. Kesha had no issue with Katy's deposition remaining sealed, but Dr. Luke insisted on it becoming public. How can you run back to someone who was your adversary in court when it comes to your privacy? 

Saying they were adversaries in court is a stretch, it was no shock that once the text messages were public knowledge that her testimony would also be made public as well..  Hence why she was mad at both of them.

 

Also I ended with I don't want Katy working with dr luke so we are in agreement there, just saying that lawsuit is a hot mess when it comes to Katy being involved with a LOT of grey area. 

[mael]

[Cherish]

4 hours ago, gettsleazy said:

She never comments on this stuff so she's definitely aware that Luke had a hand in the album 

she made high on your supply about kesha im pretty sure 

[TomTom]

3 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Saying they were adversaries in court is a stretch

With respect to this particular issue, they were.

[Junipero]

1 hour ago, SmittenCake said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its only been a few hours. This era is officially DOA and the KatyKats should be angry at Kathryn rather than Gaga and Kesha.

 

I honestly didn't think Katy would even entertain the thought of working with Luke but, at the same time, I am not surprised. Surely this will catch onto TikTok and tighten up the coffin a bit more.

 

 

 

This is tea, but people also fail to realize that "Teenage Dream" was also a trend-chasing album(Katy's manager practically implied it) meant to copy the sounds of dance-pop and pop-rock of the time.

2010 Katy would have NEVER worn that slightly transparent underboob bikini top she is wearing now; they even covered her butt-crack in the California Gurls music video and we barely saw side boob. I guess she is embracing wearing whatever the rapper girls are wearing now, because Teenage Dream Katy would have thought she was too good for that outfit.

[Infernal Paradise]

Ohh END it Ms Sebert 

 

Talentless. Tactless. Moralless. Hang it up, Katheryn.

 

Poor Kats really going through it, having waited four years for this supposed "comeback" only for her to dig her own grave further by running back to Luke of all the producers in the industry for a "women empowerment anthem" (the ******* irony of it all ) Ava Max reject and then jump through the worst hoops imaginable defending her terrible lapse of judgment and taking out their anger on women who actually dare to speak up against sexual predators  how embarrassing. 

[SmittenCake]

The doctored images of song credits that's been surfacing on Twitter is getting debunked and people are taking their posts down.

 

The Kats are now scrambling, trying to use a picture of Kesha and James Charles from the year 2019 as a "GOTCHA" when the photo was taken before any allegations were said about James Charles.

 

Seeing this fanbase try to save face is actually amusing. 

 

[peacok]

3 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

Ohh END it Ms Sebert 

 

Talentless. Tactless. Moralless. Hang it up, Katheryn.

 

Poor Kats really going through it, having waited four years for this supposed "comeback" only for her to dig her own grave further by running back to Luke of all the producers in the industry for a "women empowerment anthem" (the ******* irony of it all ) Ava Max reject and then jump through the worst hoops imaginable defending her terrible lapse of judgment and taking out their anger on women who actually dare to speak up against sexual predators  how embarrassing. 

Zionist Gaga loved working with sexual predators but I don't see anyone talking about it 

 

it's funny how stans  don't care about these issues unless it's convenient to attack artists they don't like 

[SmittenCake]

1 minute ago, peacok said:

Zionist Gaga loved working with sexual predators but I don't see anyone talking about it 

Because the rest of the world is aware that Gaga retracted her statements, called herself out, collabed with Xtina instead and ended up advocating for sexual assault organizations. Whereas Katy Perry is running back to DrLuke in hopes for a hit and nothing else. There's a clear difference between the two. 

 

[peacok]

Just now, SmittenCake said:

Because the rest of the world is aware that Gaga retracted her statements, called herself out, collabed with Xtina instead and ended up advocating for sexual assault organizations. Whereas Katy Perry is running back to DrLuke in hopes for a hit and nothing else. There's a clear difference between the two. 

 

He was not the only one honey

 

[Rino]

2 minutes ago, peacok said:

 

it's funny how stans  don't care about these issues unless it's convenient to attack artists they don't like 

for which she took responsibility, acknowledged her wrongdoing and took a whole song away. 

 

if we were holding Katy to the same standard, she would have to delete her entire discography minus Smile and Witness, but nobody asks her to do that.

 

we only expect the literal bare minimum from her. 

[SmittenCake]

1 minute ago, peacok said:

He was not the only one honey

 

 

Beyonce, Miley, Cher, Madonna, etc have worked with him in the past and have all condemned Terry. He's been left in the past. Luke should have been left in the past as well, but it seems like Katy doesn't think so.

 

 

 

 

 

[Relampago.]

You know if the song was good then maybe people would overlook it but she's gonna get a WAVE of lashings for so many reasons.