CroNich Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) 7 minutes ago, aotwbys said: The general public isn't familiar enough with Dr. Luke to even recognize his name, let alone blame him for any negative PR. Plus, 'Say So' stayed at number one for six weeks in 2019, so clearly he wasn't a major PR liability. I'm struggling to see how working with him would have been a bad move. Like stan like fave Edited June 18 by CroNich 3 1
TomTom Posted June 18 Posted June 18 15 minutes ago, aotwbys said: The general public isn't familiar enough with Dr. Luke to even recognize his name, let alone blame him for any negative PR. Plus, 'Say So' stayed at number one for six weeks in 2019, so clearly he wasn't a major PR liability. I'm struggling to see how working with him would have been a bad move. Doja Cat's situation is NOTHING like Katy's. Doja Cat does not actually want to work with Dr. Luke and has spoken out against him. There is no precedent for what Katy did. 6 3 2
CroNich Posted June 18 Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, TomTom said: Doja Cat's situation is NOTHING like Katy's. Doja Cat does not actually want to work with Dr. Luke and has spoken out against him. There is no precedent for what Katy did. Not the downvote. They truly can't handle the truth. 3 1
aotwbys Posted June 18 Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, TomTom said: Doja Cat's situation is NOTHING like Katy's. Doja Cat does not actually want to work with Dr. Luke and has spoken out against him. There is no precedent for what Katy did. I was just demonstrating the point that the general public is generally indifferent to whether Dr. Luke produces a song or not, and it has no impact on the song's potential to become a hit.
The7thStranger Posted June 18 Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, aotwbys said: I was just demonstrating the point that the general public is generally indifferent to whether Dr. Luke produces a song or not, and it has no impact on the song's potential to become a hit. Stumping for Hilary while continuing to work with an alleged rapist embroiled in a highly debated lawsuit would have been awful for her brand. 2
CroNich Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) 4 minutes ago, aotwbys said: I was just demonstrating the point that the general public is generally indifferent to whether Dr. Luke produces a song or not, and it has no impact on the song's potential to become a hit. No but the song being awful and the singer being a washed up try-hard does Edited June 18 by CroNich 3 1
aotwbys Posted June 18 Posted June 18 3 minutes ago, The7thStranger said: Stumping for Hilary while continuing to work with an alleged rapist embroiled in a highly debated lawsuit would have been awful for her brand. He has had a significant influence on her brand overall and would be hard to remove from her brand regardless. Most of her #1s have been crafted by him. Refusing to collaborate with him further didn't really benefit her career or her brand, it just contributed to her struggle to secure chart success.
The7thStranger Posted June 18 Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, aotwbys said: He has had a significant influence on her brand overall and would be hard to remove from her brand regardless. Most of her #1s have been crafted by him. Refusing to collaborate with him further didn't really benefit her career or her brand, it just contributed to her struggle to secure chart success. That's very true that he was integral to her sound and brand. But I think we have to be honest with ourselves and realize that Katy's decision to not work with him was purely political. The entire conceit of her "purposeful pop" album Witness was to listen more to others. Continuing to work with him would have been detrimental to its reception. The fact that the album didn't perform well and isn't highly regarded now is immaterial. 1
CroNich Posted June 18 Posted June 18 7 minutes ago, aotwbys said: He has had a significant influence on her brand overall and would be hard to remove from her brand regardless. Most of her #1s have been crafted by him. Refusing to collaborate with him further didn't really benefit her career or her brand, it just contributed to her struggle to secure chart success. All it would've taken was for one major publication to write a story on her continued involvement with a man tied up in a legal battle over a rape allegation against him for her career to be over. She's only decided to do it now because he has seen some continued success with other artists and there is no ongoing legal drama. What is so hard to understand? Or are you just choosing not to? 1
aotwbys Posted June 18 Posted June 18 8 minutes ago, CroNich said: All it would've taken was for one major publication to write a story on her continued involvement with a man tied up in a legal battle over a rape allegation against him for her career to be over. She's only decided to do it now because he has seen some continued success with other artists and there is no ongoing legal drama. What is so hard to understand? Or are you just choosing not to? I thought the prevailing narrative was that Witness and Smile were already considered unsuccessful career-defining flops.
keshasfillers Posted June 18 Posted June 18 6 hours ago, Pinkbutterflies said: Kesha needs to get over it. Yes, what happened to her is bad but many people have had it way harder than her. Also, the music industry is like this. You can't enjoy the rewards without sacrifices in this industry. worms… literally worms for brains… 4
Dolce Vita Posted June 18 Posted June 18 6 hours ago, Pinkbutterflies said: Kesha needs to get over it. Yes, what happened to her is bad but many people have had it way harder than her. Also, the music industry is like this. You can't enjoy the rewards without sacrifices in this industry. …i'm at a loss for words. the idiocy in this thread just to defend someone working with a RAPIST is astounding 10 2
keshasfillers Posted June 18 Posted June 18 54 minutes ago, Yawn said: when is ke$ha going to move on already… grow up! Move on… from rape? 7 1
Uncatena Posted June 18 Posted June 18 if my ex-friend that I came up in the music scene with decided to cuddle up with my abuser for a HIDEOUS song that is certain to flop beyond recognition, I would have a lot more to say than "lol" so good for her! and im sure she legally can't publicly say much. 12
Funnyfatty Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Katy was a damn clown during smile. Now she doesn't have clown make up but is acting like one. She is literally a MESS. For a horrible song too. The reason of her downfall is because she is so fake. Not even her big **** could save her this time. And what is Kesha bullied for? If i was Kesha, i would literally curse that birch out. Ew. sometimes i feel lucky that i'm not a celeb or a popular person because I WOULD HAVE THE INTERNET talking 8
Chris Posted June 18 Posted June 18 People literally weaponizing abusers for stan wars in here. Grow the f*ck up please.
ifeelitboy Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) Lots of artists (including your favs) & labels are still working with Dr. Luke. Most importantly, Kesha should stop singing her songs produced by Dr. Luke if all the things she said are completely true. She still sings his songs. Edited June 18 by ifeelitboy 1 10
The7thStranger Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ifeelitboy said: Lots of artists (including your favs) & labels are still working with Dr. Luke. I've marked in green below all the faves in my signature who work with Dr. Luke. 1 hour ago, The7thStranger said: ▀▄▀▄▀▄ | MADONNA | ALANIS | ANNALISA | JANET JACKSON | CARLY RAE JEPSEN | ▄▀▄▀▄▀ ▀▄▀▄▀▄ | CESARE CREMONINI | MUNA | BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN | ▄▀▄▀▄▀ ▀▄▀▄▀▄ | C DUNCAN | NEK | 山本龍彦 | ▄▀▄▀▄▀ ▀▄▀▄ ROBYN | RALPH ▄▀▄▀ ▀▄▀ 6 minutes ago, ifeelitboy said: She still sings his songs. She co-wrote them. Why would she stop performing them? 50 minutes ago, keshasfillers said: Move on… from rape? Apparently one can grow out of being a rape victim. Edited June 18 by The7thStranger 8 2
AccioMiley Posted June 18 Posted June 18 The puke and katy stans in here.... Go take a shower, y'all are musty and sweaty trying to defend this crap 12 1
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