Harrier Posted June 17 Posted June 17 I mean it's New York elite liberals there is no one they eat up more than HRC 7
Princess Aurora Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Sometimes I wonder what Hillary Clinton's presidency would have been like...
Le Grande Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Oh, they imported the anti-boo thing they used as the Eurovision to the US I see. 3
Talento Posted June 17 Posted June 17 (edited) Why is she even there Sorry but it'd be so weird to see politicians from my country attending these kind of events Edited June 17 by Talento 1 1
Sergi91 Posted June 17 Author Posted June 17 1 minute ago, Talento said: Why is she even there She produced a new broadway musical called "Suffs" about the suffrage movement. 1
Aston Martin Posted June 17 Posted June 17 24 minutes ago, Princess Aurora said: Sometimes I wonder what Hillary Clinton's presidency would have been like... If Hillary had won PA, MI, and WI to get to 270 EC votes, I think she still would've inherited a Republican-majority congress (both houses). I say this because her losses to Trump in WI and PA were smaller than each of their Democrat senate candidates vs their respective Republican opponents. Hillary lost PA by 44.2k votes but the Republican PA senator beat the Dem by 86.69k votes. She lost WI by 22.7k votes yet Ron Johnson beat Russ Feingold by 99.1k votes. With a hyper-partisan Republican congress and Democratic President, I think 2016-2020 would've been legal gridlock and nothing meaningful would get passed. I don't think the Republican senate would've given her any SC picks either (they would keep voting them down, and even with Collins and Murkowski voting with the Dems, they still would've come up short). There wouldn't have been a Trump backlash that drove the 2018 blue wave either. I think this would've led to Trump beating her in a 2020 rematch, Trump getting the same 3 conservative SC picks through with a Republican senate because a 2016-2020 Trump presidency wouldn't have shifted the Senate to 50/50 like it actually did in 2020. Roe still would've been overturned. With a Republican trifecta, I'm sure anything from gay marriage, trans healthcare, and birth control would've been too. Democrats would be in a much better position to win 2024 in this timeline, but I don't think Biden would be running. ot: I'm not shocked wealthy NY liberals gave her a standing ovation. She's obviously better than Trump but I disagree with several of her political positions and decisions. 2
Princess Aurora Posted June 17 Posted June 17 2 hours ago, Aston Martin said: If Hillary had won PA, MI, and WI to get to 270 EC votes, I think she still would've inherited a Republican-majority congress (both houses). I say this because her losses to Trump in WI and PA were smaller than each of their Democrat senate candidates vs their respective Republican opponents. Hillary lost PA by 44.2k votes but the Republican PA senator beat the Dem by 86.69k votes. She lost WI by 22.7k votes yet Ron Johnson beat Russ Feingold by 99.1k votes. With a hyper-partisan Republican congress and Democratic President, I think 2016-2020 would've been legal gridlock and nothing meaningful would get passed. I don't think the Republican senate would've given her any SC picks either (they would keep voting them down, and even with Collins and Murkowski voting with the Dems, they still would've come up short). There wouldn't have been a Trump backlash that drove the 2018 blue wave either. I think this would've led to Trump beating her in a 2020 rematch, Trump getting the same 3 conservative SC picks through with a Republican senate because a 2016-2020 Trump presidency wouldn't have shifted the Senate to 50/50 like it actually did in 2020. Roe still would've been overturned. With a Republican trifecta, I'm sure anything from gay marriage, trans healthcare, and birth control would've been too. Democrats would be in a much better position to win 2024 in this timeline, but I don't think Biden would be running. ot: I'm not shocked wealthy NY liberals gave her a standing ovation. She's obviously better than Trump but I disagree with several of her political positions and decisions. Interesting analysis. I agree she's not perfect but she's 100% better than Trumpet for sure. 2
HausOfPunk Posted June 17 Posted June 17 3 hours ago, Aston Martin said: If Hillary had won PA, MI, and WI to get to 270 EC votes, I think she still would've inherited a Republican-majority congress (both houses). I say this because her losses to Trump in WI and PA were smaller than each of their Democrat senate candidates vs their respective Republican opponents. Hillary lost PA by 44.2k votes but the Republican PA senator beat the Dem by 86.69k votes. She lost WI by 22.7k votes yet Ron Johnson beat Russ Feingold by 99.1k votes. With a hyper-partisan Republican congress and Democratic President, I think 2016-2020 would've been legal gridlock and nothing meaningful would get passed. I don't think the Republican senate would've given her any SC picks either (they would keep voting them down, and even with Collins and Murkowski voting with the Dems, they still would've come up short). There wouldn't have been a Trump backlash that drove the 2018 blue wave either. I think this would've led to Trump beating her in a 2020 rematch, Trump getting the same 3 conservative SC picks through with a Republican senate because a 2016-2020 Trump presidency wouldn't have shifted the Senate to 50/50 like it actually did in 2020. Roe still would've been overturned. With a Republican trifecta, I'm sure anything from gay marriage, trans healthcare, and birth control would've been too. Democrats would be in a much better position to win 2024 in this timeline, but I don't think Biden would be running. ot: I'm not shocked wealthy NY liberals gave her a standing ovation. She's obviously better than Trump but I disagree with several of her political positions and decisions. In this timeline, I wonder if COVID would have helped or hurt Hillary even more?
GraceRandolph Posted June 17 Posted June 17 3 minutes ago, HausOfPunk said: In this timeline, I wonder if COVID would have helped or hurt Hillary even more? Covid would've made Hillary a one term president for sure. Plus she would've won a very weak EC victory. 3 hours ago, Aston Martin said: If Hillary had won PA, MI, and WI to get to 270 EC votes, I think she still would've inherited a Republican-majority congress (both houses). I say this because her losses to Trump in WI and PA were smaller than each of their Democrat senate candidates vs their respective Republican opponents. Hillary lost PA by 44.2k votes but the Republican PA senator beat the Dem by 86.69k votes. She lost WI by 22.7k votes yet Ron Johnson beat Russ Feingold by 99.1k votes. With a hyper-partisan Republican congress and Democratic President, I think 2016-2020 would've been legal gridlock and nothing meaningful would get passed. I don't think the Republican senate would've given her any SC picks either (they would keep voting them down, and even with Collins and Murkowski voting with the Dems, they still would've come up short). There wouldn't have been a Trump backlash that drove the 2018 blue wave either. I think this would've led to Trump beating her in a 2020 rematch, Trump getting the same 3 conservative SC picks through with a Republican senate because a 2016-2020 Trump presidency wouldn't have shifted the Senate to 50/50 like it actually did in 2020. Roe still would've been overturned. With a Republican trifecta, I'm sure anything from gay marriage, trans healthcare, and birth control would've been too. Democrats would be in a much better position to win 2024 in this timeline, but I don't think Biden would be running. ot: I'm not shocked wealthy NY liberals gave her a standing ovation. She's obviously better than Trump but I disagree with several of her political positions and decisions. Let's not forget the WikiLeaks which showed Hillary planned on nominating a Republican to SCOTUS. 1
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