jakeisphat Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 In 2020, Biden won these states by: MN (7 points), VA (11 points), NH (7 points), NV (3 points). Despite winning New York by 23 points in 2020, his polling lead has dwindled to 8 points in 2024. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 From 23 to 8. In NEW YORK. Let that sink in 3 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyboi Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 STOP THE COUNT1!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 There's no justification for Biden not to step down and be replaced at the convention at this point. Shame on the DNC for pushing him and Kamala onto voters in 2020. 14 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespertine Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Biden's loss is going to be historic. Without a doubt. DNC needs to ******* wise up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealCat Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 is there a real chance of biden losing new york? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 10 minutes ago, EtherealCat said: is there a real chance of biden losing new york? He will probably win NY, but the fact that it is this close is a horrible omen of what's to come. Democrats usually need a blowout in the popular vote margin to win in the electoral college. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Biden will win every single state you are talking about there except maybe NV which isn't a dem strong hold. It's been close for the past few elections. Its a swing state 😂 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Communion Posted June 9 Popular Post Share Posted June 9 Everyone who supported this man over Sanders in 2020 on the argument of "electability" should be embarrassed tbh. 16 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolonio Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 minute ago, Communion said: Everyone who supported this man over Sanders in 2020 on the argument of "electability" should be embarrassed tbh. I am. Deeply. Sleepy Joe is gonna be embarrassed too when he loses. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Trees Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 4 minutes ago, Communion said: Everyone who supported this man over Sanders in 2020 on the argument of "electability" should be embarrassed tbh. Unfortunately, a lot of people are not taught to read omens until it's too late. Politics as usual is over in America and the West in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Not people saying Biden will lose NY in here 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie Saxton Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 11 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Not people saying Biden will lose NY in here 😂 Get the Chromatica-911 transition music ready for the NY flip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheers Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 I read about the Project 2025 mess. We are SO fawked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeisphat Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 56 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Biden will win every single state you are talking about there except maybe NV which isn't a dem strong hold. It's been close for the past few elections. Its a swing state 😂 38 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Not people saying Biden will lose NY in here 😂 He'll definitely win NY, but idk how people aren't more alarmed by the polling so far… voting begins in 4 months and for Trump to have closed the gaps in those states would be concerning for any Democratic candidate. Nevada has not been red for 20 years… He's performing worse than Hillary as an incumbent against a man that is a now convicted felon. If he's down this bad in states that should be easy wins, what does that say about his swing state prospects? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oli more Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Not surprised. Biden's presidency was a big failure in every single possible way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) 9 minutes ago, jakeisphat said: He'll definitely win NY, but idk how people aren't more alarmed by the polling so far… voting begins in 4 months and for Trump to have closed the gaps in those states would be concerning for any Democratic candidate. Nevada has not been red for 20 years… He's performing worse than Hillary as an incumbent against a man that is a now convicted felon. If he's down this bad in states that should be easy wins, what does that say about his swing state prospects? They know something is wrong. They just won't admit it because this is their plan in real-time imploding in on itself. Basically Democrat partisans and loyalists thought the threat of Trump would be enough to stomp and force the progressive activist base into silence over Biden's ideological shift towards the right (driven by his personal investment in the Zionist entity), whether that be on immigration, foreign policy, inflation, etc. Problem: This didn't work by how grave the scenes coming out of Gaza are. You can't find it in yourself to convince others to vote for someone who you think enjoys dead children. Consequence: In the absence of a progressive activist base to pushback on right-wing talking points peddled by corporate media, normie Americans now hate Biden for issues that even go beyond policy. They uniformly think he's old and unintelligible and has failed in his administration. Dems have silenced the left within their own corner and, as a by-product of this choice to protect Biden's ego, allowed the right to flourish in the media-sphere and public discourse. Joe Biden's legacy is going to be remembered for the eroding of rights and the decimating of the progressive movement back 20-30 years. I can't actually articulate just how angry I am over this. How we are here because well-to-do liberals hate poor people. Because "Medicare For All" was "scary" for some. Edited June 9 by Communion 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 9 minutes ago, jakeisphat said: He'll definitely win NY, but idk how people aren't more alarmed by the polling so far… voting begins in 4 months and for Trump to have closed the gaps in those states would be concerning for any Democratic candidate. Nevada has not been red for 20 years… He's performing worse than Hillary as an incumbent against a man that is a now convicted felon. If he's down this bad in states that should be easy wins, what does that say about his swing state prospects? New poll released today shows improvement for Biden in the battleground states Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Aurora Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) Oh no. I don't want that demon in the White House ever againBiden better give his seat to someone else. Edited June 9 by Princess Aurora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad guy Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 59 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Not people saying Biden will lose NY in here 😂 He won't but Trump gaining like this in NY is honestly astonishing. These trials have done the exact opposite of what Dems thought. You can scoff at this all you want but this is a sign that Biden will most certainly lose Pennsylvania and Georgia meaning all Trump would need is a win in Michigan and it's JOEVER. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on the line Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 The polls will yoyo until we're much closer. Nothing to freak out about now. A lot can happen in the next 5 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45seconds Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 7 minutes ago, bad guy said: He won't but Trump gaining like this in NY is honestly astonishing. These trials have done the exact opposite of what Dems thought. You can scoff at this all you want but this is a sign that Biden will most certainly lose Pennsylvania and Georgia meaning all Trump would need is a win in Michigan and it's JOEVER. This isn't a sign of anything. And the trials and the conviction did what they were suppose to. Polls after indicate that while Trump hasn't lost any points, Biden has gained. Which means that those who were undecided or wasn't going to vote are now deciding on Biden. Stop the dramatics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 9 ATRL Moderator Share Posted June 9 3 minutes ago, on the line said: The polls will yoyo until we're much closer. Nothing to freak out about now. A lot can happen in the next 5 months. Polls don’t really yo-yo this far out. They’re fairly stable. They’re probably more stable than usually because the “yo yo” phenomenon happens as voters become more familiar with the candidates. That’s not possible in this race. Trump is the most overexposed presidential candidate in history and has been president for four years. Biden has also been president. We’re all very well acquainted with the two candidates so don’t expect any major yo-yoing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If U Seek Amy Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 3 minutes ago, on the line said: The polls will yoyo until we're much closer. Nothing to freak out about now. A lot can happen in the next 5 months. ATRL is Groundhog Day with polls. Every day is the same discussion and same points over every single poll released. Any minor fluctuation is painted by each member to fit whatever narrative they want to tell. It's wild people will type essays to say what they've said 10000 times before 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk_Away21 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 This is what happens when we nominate dementia patients. I guess no sane person would want the presidency these days tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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