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réveuse Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) What in the world? Absolutely disgusting! This is rebelling against international law. Truly the United States of Israel. Edited June 4 by réveuse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston Martin Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Despicable, but completely unsurprising. This will (continue to) torpedo the view other governments and their populations have of the US and its allies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 yet another nail in the coffin for the so-called 'democracy'. imagine if China did this... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Really sick of the US. No one can touch Israel, it's off limits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 The ICC has never been recognized by either the US or Israel, why should they suddenly start now? There is an arrest warrant out right now for Putin, and he's been traveling internationally to China and Saudi Arabia with 0 problem and has been received there with great military fanfare. I must have missed all the outraged threads that were created by leftists about that. Let's not forget South Africa, an actual ICC signatory, outright ignored an ICC arrest warrant and it had 0 consequences 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I hope Trump wins and ruins that shithole of a country soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 8 minutes ago, John Slayne said: yet another nail in the coffin for the so-called 'democracy'. imagine if China did this... China has never recognized the ICC and has thus "done this" (ignoring the ICC) roughly 50 times before, not to mention they continuously invite Putin (who should be arrested according to the ICC) and welcome him as a guest of honor. Literally nothing has happened to China as a result of this. I've never even seen anyone online criticize them for it. What exactly do you mean by your comment? Edited June 4 by Bosque 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Bosque said: The ICC has never been recognized by either the US or Israel, why should they suddenly start now? There is an arrest warrant out right now for Putin, and he's been traveling internationally to China and Saudi Arabia with 0 problem and has been received there with great military fanfare. I must have missed all the outraged threads that were created by leftists about that. Let's not forget South Africa, an actual ICC signatory, outright ignored an ICC arrest warrant and it had 0 consequences But the US was more than welcoming towards the arrest warrant for Putin despite Russia being outside the ICC's jurisdiction, just like the US. How is this not hypocrisy? 7 minutes ago, Bosque said: China has never recognized the ICC and has thus "done this" (ignoring the ICC) roughly 50 times before. What exactly do you mean by your comment? You are being deliberately obtuse. Also 'ignoring' the ICC and sanctioning it are two very different things. Edited June 4 by John Slayne 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 4 Author Share Posted June 4 9 minutes ago, Bosque said: that were created by leftists about that. Let's not forget South Africa, an actual ICC signatory, outright ignored an ICC arrest warrant and it had 0 consequences What kind of blatant misinformation? South Africa asked for an exemption for the BRICS summit, was told no, and thus Putin was disinvited from the BRICS summit in South Africa. In comparison, the US Congress is literally inviting Bibi to speak. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 10 minutes ago, John Slayne said: But the US was more than welcoming towards the arrest warrant for Putin despite Russia being outside the ICC's jurisdiction, just like the US. How is this not hypocrisy? You are being deliberately obtuse. Also 'ignoring' the ICC and sanctioning it are two very different things. Once again the USA does not recognize the ICC nor has it ever done so. They have done nothing in relation to the ICC arrest warrant against Putin. The USA considers Putin a war criminal so very obviously they would support any effort to jail him? But they have taken zero actual steps to help the ICC jail Putin, and of course they also won't support any decisions with respect to Israel by the ICC - I feel like this is all very obvious and shouldn't require explaining? Completely ignoring a made up court that you never agreed to in all cases is not hypocrisy as far as I can tell. What is indeed hypocrisy is the far left completely ignoring how South Africa ignored an arrest warrant in the past, and is now trying to use the same court to advance their own political agenda. The same that is done by nations as China and their PR mouthpieces online putting out self-righteous statements about "the importance of sanctity of the ICC and international law!!!!!" While they themselves aren't even signatories Edited June 4 by Bosque 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, Bosque said: But they have taken zero actual steps to help the ICC jail Putin, Literally the first google search: 'The United States is not a member of the court but has backed previous prosecutions, including the ICC's arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin over the war in Ukraine.' 3 minutes ago, Bosque said: and of course they also won't support any decisions with respect to Israel by the ICC - I feel like this is all very obvious and shouldn't require explaining? Completely ignoring a made up court that you never agreed to in all cases is not hypocrisy as far as I can tell. Once again being obtuse - they are not ignoring the ICC, they are sanctioning it. They aren't just 'not supporting' any decision with respect to Israel by the ICC, they are actively pressuring the ICC to not issue an arrest warrant for a war criminal. It's also interesting how ICC is suddenly 'a made up court' (despite 124 countries agreeing to it) when it comes to Netanyahu. It does make one wonder why this court wasn't 'made up' 2 years ago. It's almost as if the US treats international rule of law as an instrument to advance their own geopolitical goals... Also worth noting how you just take it at face value and never stopped to think why the US considers Putin a war criminal but not Netanyahu, but that's a whole different debate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, John Slayne said: Literally the first google search: 'The United States is not a member of the court but has backed previous prosecutions, including the ICC's arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin over the war in Ukraine.' Once again being obtuse - they are not ignoring the ICC, they are sanctioning it. They aren't just 'not supporting' any decision with respect to Israel by the ICC, they are actively pressuring the ICC to not issue an arrest warrant for a war criminal. It's also interesting how ICC is suddenly 'a made up court' (despite 124 countries agreeing to it) when it comes to Netanyahu. It does make one wonder why this court wasn't 'made up' 2 years ago. It's almost as if the US treats international rule of law as an instrument to advance their own geopolitical goals... Also worth noting how you just take it at face value and never stopped to think why the US considers Putin a war criminal but not Netanyahu, but that's a whole different debate. The court has always been made up and has zero relevancy as is very obvious by South Africa, one of its signatory members, completely ignoring it in the past. Has Putin been arrested following their warrant? No offense but have you been asleep for the past few years? there is literally no such thing as "international law" outside of countries following their own goals. Literally all countries follow their own goals within the UN and all other international law bodies. This is in no way exclusive to the USA, it applies to literally every country in the world especially other powerful ones like Russia and China which you ignore completely for conveniences sake. No offense but your understanding of this whole topic seems rudimentary at best. Edited June 4 by Bosque 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 4 Author Share Posted June 4 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Bosque said: Once again the USA does not recognize the ICC nor has it ever done so. They have done nothing in relation to the ICC arrest warrant against Putin. The US Congress - the same body now sanctioning the ICC - were calling for the State Department to push economic sanctions like moving the AGOA Forum from South Africa if they refused to comply with the ICC's warrant on Putin - something that didn't come to fruition. Edited June 4 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadiamendell Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Of COURSE Wasserman Schultz is on there... the ULTIMATE Hillary hen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 39 minutes ago, Bosque said: China has never recognized the ICC and has thus "done this" (ignoring the ICC) roughly 50 times before, not to mention they continuously invite Putin (who should be arrested according to the ICC) and welcome him as a guest of honor. Literally nothing has happened to China as a result of this. I've never even seen anyone online criticize them for it. What exactly do you mean by your comment? Interesting that China and the U.S. have similar regards towards human rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgos Groove Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 First the UNHCR, now the ICC... It's insane how the West can just discard institutions that have existed for decades when they don't (bene)fit their imperialist narrative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 10 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: Of COURSE Wasserman Schultz is on there... the ULTIMATE Hillary hen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 minute ago, byzantium said: Interesting that China and the U.S. have similar regards towards human rights. ? How does the fact that both countries do not recognize a random international body mean they have "similar regards towards human rights"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Expected and disgusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 What's the big surprise here? The US and friends believe that human rights cannot be applied to melanated people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 The fact only 42 Dems voted for this is good. 👏🏼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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