808dream Posted June 2 Posted June 2 What does one person has to do to be considered ineligible? If all this, the Washington DC riots and the rape allegations are not enough to keep someone off the presidentials run I'm genuinely asking what one must do to be considered ineligible? Shooting someone? Or is it also OK if it's all about Trumpet?
Stimulus Posted June 2 Posted June 2 45 minutes ago, 808dream said: What does one person has to do to be considered ineligible? If all this, the Washington DC riots and the rape allegations are not enough to keep someone off the presidentials run I'm genuinely asking what one must do to be considered ineligible? Shooting someone? Or is it also OK if it's all about Trumpet? 3 ways: U.S. Constitution: Be impeached and convicted and disqualified by congressional vote. (Trump was impeached twice, but acquitted both times by the Senate.) 14th Amendment: Commit insurrection or rebellion against the U.S. after taking an oath to support the U.S. Constitution. (Trump took an oath to support the Constitution when he became president, but after individual states tried to remove Trump from the ballot, the Supreme Court decided in March that only Congress can decide that Trump is ineligible to run for president due to the 14th Amendment.) 22nd Amendment: Reach the 2-term limit. Shooting someone would not make Trump ineligible for presidency unless it causes him to satisfy one of these conditions.
Frozen99 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 On 6/1/2024 at 1:53 AM, If U Seek Amy said: We can talk about America being the dumbest nation when many other countries figure out how to even gain an ounce of the power America has... For being so smart they sure... aren't? what's got the us being the most oppressive nation since the british empire to do with these 34 convictions actually helping trump with the american public? ... and i'm not saying dumb sheep aren't everywhere, in slovakia they just voted for another similar idiot like trump although he wasn't CONVICTED of 34 felonies...
808dream Posted June 2 Posted June 2 1 hour ago, Stimulus said: 3 ways: U.S. Constitution: Be impeached and convicted and disqualified by congressional vote. (Trump was impeached twice, but acquitted both times by the Senate.) 14th Amendment: Commit insurrection or rebellion against the U.S. after taking an oath to support the U.S. Constitution. (Trump took an oath to support the Constitution when he became president, but after individual states tried to remove Trump from the ballot, the Supreme Court decided in March that only Congress can decide that Trump is ineligible to run for president due to the 14th Amendment.) 22nd Amendment: Reach the 2-term limit. Shooting someone would not make Trump ineligible for presidency unless it causes him to satisfy one of these conditions. So are Senate and SC actually saving his axx for some unknown reason?
Stimulus Posted June 2 Posted June 2 1 hour ago, 808dream said: So are Senate and SC actually saving his axx for some unknown reason? The Senate saved Trump because there were too many Republican senators who voted to acquit him. For Trump to be convicted in an impeachment trial, the supermajority (over 2/3) of the Senate needs to vote to convict him. There are 100 seats in the Senate, so 67 senators are needed. During the first impeachment trial, 51 of the 53 Republican senators voted to halt the trial before calling witnesses and Trump was acquitted. The second impeachment trial made it past the witness phase and 57 senators (48 Democrats, 7 Republicans, and 2 independents) voted to convict Trump. That's less than 67, so he was acquitted again. On the other hand, the Supreme Court decision for Trump v. Anderson was unanimous. All 9 justices decided that the Constitution doesn't allow states to disqualify candidates for federal offices using that part of the 14th Amendment. Instead, the decision lies with Congress. Republicans currently have a majority in the House of Representatives, so the 14th Amendment isn't a practical way to disqualify Trump. The moral of the story is: it all comes down to voting. Votes for the president matter, but so do votes for members of Congress and every other elected official. 1
brazil Posted June 2 Posted June 2 8 hours ago, 808dream said: What does one person has to do to be considered ineligible? If all this, the Washington DC riots and the rape allegations are not enough to keep someone off the presidentials run I'm genuinely asking what one must do to be considered ineligible? Shooting someone? Or is it also OK if it's all about Trumpet? We are lucky in Brazil that a Supreme Court justice had the balls to determine that Bolsonaro is ineligible for attempts to undermine democracy, I'm guessing you could make the argument in US Courts that Trump should be ineligible but that would never hold up due to an extremelly polarize and Republican Supreme Court. 1
GhostBox Posted June 3 Posted June 3 On 6/2/2024 at 9:06 AM, brazil said: We are lucky in Brazil that a Supreme Court justice had the balls to determine that Bolsonaro is ineligible for attempts to undermine democracy, I'm guessing you could make the argument in US Courts that Trump should be ineligible but that would never hold up due to an extremelly polarize and Republican Supreme Court. Yup exactly true sadly
GhostBox Posted June 3 Posted June 3 On 6/1/2024 at 12:16 PM, Stimulus said: Poll: 49% of Independents think Trump should drop out post-guilty verdict Axios / Alex Thompson, Hans Nichols / June 1, 2024 Source More than half of voters approve of Donald Trump's New York conviction Morning Consult / Eli Yokley / June 01, 2024 Source I don't see the polls moving much because of this situation but I think it will matter come election time and those in the middle who hate both candidates. Being a convicted felon probably won't play well for him with these voters. 1
GraceRandolph Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Biden still losing to Trump or ahead, but within the margin of error. On 6/3/2024 at 12:53 AM, Puma said: this y'all democracy?
shyboi Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Trump already raised 200 million after the conviction? what's happening?
Maxxxine Posted June 5 Posted June 5 So what now? He's still sipping on mojitos at Mar-a-Lago Dems get excited about him going to jail every couple of months.
GhostBox Posted June 5 Posted June 5 11 hours ago, shyboi said: Trump already raised 200 million after the conviction? what's happening? And? the Biden campaign also had their best 24 hour fundraising after the verdict too. Maybe not as much as trumps campaign but still. This was going to happen no matter what the verdict was. its what they are using these funds for. And so far Trump campaign has been spending them on his legal bills and such. 🤷
GhostBox Posted June 6 Posted June 6 Bumping this because people need to reminded that Trump is a convicted felon 🎉🎉
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