discussion Why do we expect celebrities to talk about political conflicts abroad?

[Kukai]

There's almost an expectation for celebrities now to talk about social and political issues on social media. If they're silent on social media you have celebrity obsessed stans calling them out for being 'complicit'. But why do we expect celebrities, often times vacuous ones like Kim Kardashian, to talk about issues that are unrelated to their work? It doesn't make a big difference or at least not to the same extent as putting pressure on your local government officials. For me, it seems virtue signalling and at worse performative activism. 

If you think otherwise I'm open to hearing your thoughts. But the current trend of online 'activism', if you can even call it that, seems shallow and hypocritical. 

[shoganai]

Why do we care of what celebrities may or may not think? The majority of them are ignorant illiterates 

[PrettyHurts]

The truth is most of them don't care. They're rich and these issues don't actually effect them. It's great when they speak out but for the ones that don't, i'm not surprised 

[Kukai]

12 minutes ago, shoganai said:

Why do we care of what celebrities may or may not think? The majority of them are ignorant illiterates 

Idk ask ATRL 

 

[shoganai]

4 minutes ago, Kukai said:

Idk ask ATRL 

 

Swifties don't count, they're a cult and we can't expect mental clarity from them

[family.guy123]

Man/woman-made, imaginary borders don't exempt us from doing what's right. 

[Tusk]

Because they want someone else with money to do the work for them.

 

How many of these fans are actually donating, calling their elected officials, or volunteering? 
 

It's easier for them to sit in their bedrooms and complain about a celebrity not speaking out. 
 

It's not about what you say but about what you do. 

[Gorjesspazze9]

Usually people don't care about something unless it affects them directly. And social media activism can only do so much. Those with resources and platforms to actually generate revenue and action is what we should be focusing on. Spam the politicians and legislators. Pop girls and Stan's that want actual change should aim for that

[Loca]

Why do you feel the need to come online in defense of greedy millionaires who don't give a **** about you? They don't get to have all those privileges without some scorn, and that's just the way it is, like it or not. Not to mention that their taxes are way higher than a regular citizen's and such money is being used to fund the genocide of the free people of Palestine (which invalidates your notion of this being a political conflict abroad; they are funding it and should speak against it). 

[Raver]

People have let certain causes become their whole personality. 

[perfect blue]

when billions of US tax dollars are being used to fund a genocide it becomes a domestic issue.

[conquxror]

Well, I don't want to support people with questionable values. Some of you clearly don't care, obviously. 

[Kukai]

55 minutes ago, Loca said:

Why do you feel the need to come online in defense of greedy millionaires who don't give a **** about you? They don't get to have all those privileges without some scorn, and that's just the way it is, like it or not. Not to mention that their taxes are way higher than a regular citizen's and such money is being used to fund the genocide of the free people of Palestine (which invalidates your notion of this being a political conflict abroad; they are funding it and should speak against it). 

It's not a defence as much as it is a criticism of how shallow this type of activism is. Of all the people to focus on, they're focusing on celebrities who have been apathetic on their social media towards most causes around the world. The implication that if they do not talk about these things on social media they do not care, is strange and a reflection of the vapid hive mind behind these types of online comments. All of our taxes have been paid into conflicts abroad, whether directly or indirectly, for decades. So yes it still is a conflict that is happening abroad and there are many injustices happening in other countries right now as well which isn't being highlighted in the media cycle. 

Edited May 30 by Kukai

[Prodigal Self]

Because they got the resources, the pull, and the influence. I don't care what their actual stance is cause almost of them are stupid and detached from reality.

But then again it all comes down to silly stanwars with y'all.

[Karla Cabello]

because they should

[Alaska.]

Because I need to know if Anne Hathaway or Jimmy Fallon are pro-Palestine, otherwise I will lose sleep over such an important thing

[Bhabylon]

Because some of these celebrities built their brand on activism and advocacy, so they set that expectation up for themselves.

[Windy Day]

because they've been given a platform which for some of them can be bigger than politicians when it comes to influence on the public opinion or raising awareness and they're celebrated when they're named times person of the year or most influential person of the year so the least we can expect from them is to use that platform for something good!

[GraceRandolph]

7 hours ago, Tusk said:

Because they want someone else with money to do the work for them.

 

How many of these fans are actually donating, calling their elected officials, or volunteering? 
 

It's easier for them to sit in their bedrooms and complain about a celebrity not speaking out. 
 

It's not about what you say but about what you do. 

A celebrity is more reachable than most elected officials, and it's not bizarre to expect wealthy, well connected people to donate more money than working class fans. 

[Rep2000]

1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said:

A celebrity is more reachable than most elected officials, and it's not bizarre to expect wealthy, well connected people to donate more money than working class fans. 

Interesting. So who's your elected officials may I ask?

Cause this explains quite a lot.

[GraceRandolph]

17 minutes ago, Rep2000 said:

Interesting. So who's your elected officials may I ask?

Cause this explains quite a lot.

Someone who accepts AIPAC money.

 

Cupcakke has probably done more good for her fans by helping put them up in hotels when they were struggling with housing than the average corporate politician.

[ZeroSuitBritney]

Because speaking out about a live streamed genocide is the right thing to do, celebrity or not. But celebrities speaking out, like Taylor, could reach a huge audience who still think a situation is not as crazy or big as some people make it out to be. It would some reconsider.

[Kukai]

36 minutes ago, ZeroSuitBritney said:

Because speaking out about a live streamed genocide is the right thing to do, celebrity or not. But celebrities speaking out, like Taylor, could reach a huge audience who still think a situation is not as crazy or big as some people make it out to be. It would some reconsider.

I don't think Taylor making a post about it on social media is doing anything when the media has been focused on this conflict for so long now. The way I see it, people who vicariously live through their favourite singers want this as validation while they sit at home doing nothing to help the cause. There are people killing others in the name of Islam in Africa right now. Why isn't anyone speaking up about that? Oh because it's not the trend and doesn't fit the narrative being pushed by online activists. I wonder if any of you or your white friends and idols ever spoke up about the Tamil genocide? 

Edited May 30 by Kukai

[DiabeticGrandpa]

23 hours ago, shoganai said:

Why do we care of what celebrities may or may not think? The majority of them are ignorant illiterates 

This. Some of the were high school drop outs. Others cant do basic math.

 

 

[VOSS]

A lot of it is just stans being dumb. But there are many celebrities happy to accept praise and attention for speaking out about "safe" issues but will then ignore anything more controversial to protect their brand/finances which comes off as really fake.