LIT Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Quote Around the world, over Memorial Day weekend here in America, people watched on social media in horror as the IDF dropped 60 2000-pound bombs on a displaced persons camp in Rafah, burning tents and the refugees sheltering inside. This does not make anyone safer – neither Palestinians nor Jews. I know what it means to fear the rising surge of antisemitism. I am terrified – I feel it every day. But I am certain that Jews are not better protected by a war effort, endorsed by the United States and waged in the name of Jewish safety, that furthers a genocide of a whole people collectively framed as "our enemy". In fact, making Jews the face of an unrelenting, genocidal campaign only puts us at risk even more. Palestinian and Jewish safety are not oppositional. In fact, they are deeply intertwined. President Biden does not recognize this. He refuses to call for a lasting and permanent ceasefire, end the blank check offered to Israel, secure a diplomatic release of the Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners, end the siege on Gaza and work to abolish the apartheid system stretched across the Holy Land. That is why, at this moment, my former boss is the person who makes me feel most unsafe as an American Jew. Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/28/biden-israel-gaza-policy 8
Popular Post Relampago. Posted May 28 Popular Post Posted May 28 Came in ready to drag, but queen ate that. Massacring thousands of innocent Palestinians does not make Jewish people safer, and only gives reasons for misguided and hateful attacks on Jews who do not support such horrors. The narrative of "protecting innocent Jewish people from antisemitism" or "another holocaust" went out the window the moment innocent lives, innocent children, were killed en masse. 33
IsidoraMarí Posted May 28 Posted May 28 26 minutes ago, Sprite said: This wasn't happening under Trump... And Trump is far more impressionable to public opinion. He might be the lesser of two evils. I was trying hard to keep Trump out but America historically has run best with a Republican president and a Democratic House and Senate. My conscious will force me to vote for the Green party regardless but I can no longer see Trump as the worst of it all. 1 1
réveuse Posted May 29 Posted May 29 Never again but Never again is happening right now. Israel and Zionism do not represent Jews and Judaism. 5 1
Tovitov Posted May 29 Posted May 29 2 minutes ago, IsidoraMarí said: And Trump is far more impressionable to public opinion. He might be the lesser of two evils. I was trying hard to keep Trump out but America historically has run best with a Republican president and a Democratic House and Senate. My conscious will force me to vote for the Green party regardless but I can no longer see Trump as the worst of it all. Girl, not this. I understand not voting for Biden, but if you're in anyway a leftist and think another Trump term would be preferable, than you've really lost the plot. I'd also remind you that poll after poll show the average American widely support Israel over Palestine. If Trump is swung on public opinion, it wont be against Israel.
Relampago. Posted May 29 Posted May 29 34 minutes ago, Sprite said: This wasn't happening under Trump... The way this isn't even true at all Omarosa, Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus, Sean Spicer.. I'm sure there's more but those are the ones I thought of off the top of my head. Kinda says a lot that some Republicans have more integrity than much of Biden's team but alas.
ZeroSuitBritney Posted May 29 Posted May 29 This woman is amazing. She has completely cut ties with Zionism and AIPAC, the latter she was tied to previously. This has awoken her. 3
Tovitov Posted May 29 Posted May 29 13 minutes ago, Relampago. said: The way this isn't even true at all Omarosa, Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus, Sean Spicer.. I'm sure there's more but those are the ones I thought of off the top of my head. Kinda says a lot that some Republicans have more integrity than much of Biden's team but alas. Trump had a revolving door of cabinet members during his term. People really have forgotten how chaotic the Trump years were, even pre-Covid. 1
IsidoraMarí Posted May 29 Posted May 29 11 minutes ago, Tovitov said: Girl, not this. I understand not voting for Biden, but if you're in anyway a leftist and think another Trump term would be preferable, than you've really lost the plot. I'd also remind you that poll after poll show the average American widely support Israel over Palestine. If Trump is swung on public opinion, it wont be against Israel. I'd prefer the right be the right rather than the so called left be the far right. I've been a Green Party member since 2012, didn't even vote for Obama due to his anti gay marriage stance in 08, border policy, and liberal use of drone strikes on civilians. But I did vote for Biden in 2020 and it makes me sick in 2024.
PoisonPill Posted May 29 Posted May 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, IsidoraMarí said: And Trump is far more impressionable to public opinion. He might be the lesser of two evils. I was trying hard to keep Trump out but America historically has run best with a Republican president and a Democratic House and Senate. My conscious will force me to vote for the Green party regardless but I can no longer see Trump as the worst of it all. Lord the intentional density of some of ya'll. Forget about Biden's lame "red line", Trump will be hyping up Bibi to wipe Gaza off the map, no need to worry about civilian casualties. This is what the so-called moderate, reasonable Republican candidate is posting today. Edited May 29 by PoisonPill
Yayo94 Posted May 29 Posted May 29 2 hours ago, IsidoraMarí said: And Trump is far more impressionable to public opinion. He might be the lesser of two evils. I was trying hard to keep Trump out but America historically has run best with a Republican president and a Democratic House and Senate. My conscious will force me to vote for the Green party regardless but I can no longer see Trump as the worst of it all. lol have fun with Trump then smfh
IsidoraMarí Posted May 29 Posted May 29 16 minutes ago, Yayo94 said: lol have fun with Trump then smfh I'm not choosing Trump, but I'm damn sure not choosing to be complicit in genocide... in 2024... 51 minutes ago, PoisonPill said: Lord the intentional density of some of ya'll. Forget about Biden's lame "red line", Trump will be hyping up Bibi to wipe Gaza off the map, no need to worry about civilian casualties. This is what the so-called moderate, reasonable Republican candidate is posting today. Are They Not Already Doing That?!?!
IsidoraMarí Posted May 29 Posted May 29 To be honest it would be more appropriate to call this a Holocaust. And y'all are still acting like Biden is a choice. Repulsive.
Yayo94 Posted May 29 Posted May 29 56 minutes ago, IsidoraMarí said: I'm not choosing Trump, but I'm damn sure not choosing to be complicit in genocide... in 2024... You kinda are, I wonder what Trump will do with the queer folk and women from 2024-2028 hmmmmmm
karron0624 Posted May 29 Posted May 29 4 hours ago, Relampago. said: Came in ready to drag, but queen ate that. Massacring thousands of innocent Palestinians does not make Jewish people safer, and only gives reasons for misguided and hateful attacks on Jews who do not support such horrors. The narrative of "protecting innocent Jewish people from antisemitism" or "another holocaust" went out the window the moment innocent lives, innocent children, were killed en masse. Title had me ready to drag too, and now i need to check my biases and whether im racist for assuming the worst. 🙃 Queen ate! 1
Capris Groove Posted May 29 Posted May 29 If there's any group that understands genocide, it's Jewish people. I don't know why we've been putting Jewish people and Palestinian people at opposite sides of the counsel people when in fact nobody would comprehend the current plight of Palestinians better than Jewish people. 1
GraceRandolph Posted May 29 Posted May 29 6 hours ago, Sprite said: This wasn't happening under Trump... 6 hours ago, IsidoraMarí said: And Trump is far more impressionable to public opinion. He might be the lesser of two evils. I was trying hard to keep Trump out but America historically has run best with a Republican president and a Democratic House and Senate. My conscious will force me to vote for the Green party regardless but I can no longer see Trump as the worst of it all. Trump is just as pro-Israel as Biden and is falsely presented as anti-war. If you actually want to vote for an anti-genocide candidate vote for Jill Stein.
IsidoraMarí Posted May 29 Posted May 29 6 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: Trump is just as pro-Israel as Biden and is falsely presented as anti-war. If you actually want to vote for an anti-genocide candidate vote for Jill Stein. I will be Voting Jill Stein 8 hours ago, Yayo94 said: You kinda are, I wonder what Trump will do with the queer folk and women from 2024-2028 hmmmmmm At this point I'd rather lose some rights in America rather than support any genocidal candidate. Trump could end up picking the entire Supreme Court and I'll still be happier with myself voting Jill Stein.
Sprite Posted May 29 Posted May 29 18 hours ago, Relampago. said: The way this isn't even true at all Omarosa, Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus, Sean Spicer.. I'm sure there's more but those are the ones I thought of off the top of my head. Kinda says a lot that some Republicans have more integrity than much of Biden's team but alas. I mean Jewish Americans feeling unsafe... This wasn't happening under Trump
WeFoundWill Posted May 29 Posted May 29 they should redo their statement and frame it it as Zionist thinks "…whatever that was"
LadyDiana Posted May 29 Posted May 29 Except with Trump ya'll have chaos, unrest, war on your front porch, not just in Gaza or Ukraine.
i spit on haters Posted May 29 Posted May 29 56 minutes ago, Sprite said: I mean Jewish Americans feeling unsafe... This wasn't happening under Trump It was. A massive group of proud boys formed together and collectively chanted "Jews will not replace us". Now, some will say they were chanting 'YOU will not replace us' but I don't believe that to be true giving what they stand for.
i spit on haters Posted May 29 Posted May 29 33 minutes ago, LadyDiana said: Except with Trump ya'll have chaos, unrest, war on your front porch, not just in Gaza or Ukraine. We have that now under Biden. And Trump almost got America into a war but ultimately didn't by the end of his presidency. Even Joy Reid was caught on a hot-mic saying 'another ******* war ?' due to Biden's hawkish policies. https://deadline.com/2024/02/joy-reid-the-view-1235815181/
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