Communion Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Illuminati said: If the average American is indifferent after everything that has happened in the past 8 years, maybe the approach should change. Yes, your and corporate Dems' approach of scolding non-voters and 3rd-party voters is clearly not working. 15 minutes ago, Illuminati said: you took after the 2016 election, completely excluding themselves from the responsibility for electing Trump I voted for Hillary Clinton is a deep blue state in 2016. The only one responsible for her losing was her own troglodyte white women supporters for excusing her running the worst campaign for president in the last 50 years. This thread showed you seemingly don't even know what a Secretary of State does, so I'm not actually inclined to take the word of someone who is still learning the different roles within all 3 branches of the US government on why Hillary lost, let alone when said person still thinks it was somehow not the fault of the person telling volunteers to "turn that bus around" away from the crucial swing state of Michigan. You have every right to whine about Donald Trump. But just whining about Donald Trump didn't stop Trump from winning in 2016. Just whining about Donald Trump didn't actually help Biden in polls in 2020, with Biden's eventual victory accredited to a peak in youth turnout after policy concessions. Just whining about Donald Trump isn't going to stop Trump from winning in 2024. Understand and acknowledge you're fine with Trump winning by only whining. Edited May 27 by Communion 3
Illuminati Posted May 27 Posted May 27 3 minutes ago, Communion said: This thread showed you seemingly don't even know what a Secretary of State does I also had coffee this morning, if this background information helps you to further your narrative that we should all be quiet on Trump 5 minutes ago, Communion said: You have every right ti whine about Donald Trump. But whining about Donald Trump didn't stop Trump from winning in 2016. Whining about Donald Trump didn't actually help Biden in polls in 2020, with Biden's eventual victory accredited to a peak in youth turnout after policy promises. Whining about Donald Trump isn't going to stop Trump from winning in 2024. Understand and acknowledge you're fine with Trump winning by only whining. Acknowledge the fact that "whining" about Biden in a thread about Trump also means the same, that you are fine with Trump winning. Except I'm a mere observer in this, I don't actually get to vote either way.
Karla Cabello Posted May 27 Posted May 27 it's on brand from him and joe bidden since they are both up in israel's lobby 1
heckinglovato Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ryan said: Let's keep the narrative clear. Israel wants to continue the war. Biden thinks Hamas is bad but we can't kill people of Palestine because of Hamas. He believes they have a complete right to attack Hamas. The support is contingent on limiting the harm to the innocent. 40,000 deaths later, 2 million displacements later, this LIE that Biden's support of Israel's genocide isn't unconditional, unlimited, and has no red lines isn't even funny anymore. It's offensive and actively spreads misinformation to the public, allowing for more deaths and more displacements. Maybe just stick to commenting on pop music threads? Edited May 27 by heckinglovato 1
Communion Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Illuminati said: Acknowledge the fact that "whining" about Biden in a thread about Trump also means the same Statements like this are factually wrong and come from an ignorance to how American elections and the American electorate work. Acknowledging Biden must stop his behavior and adhere to the expectations of the Democratic party is the only way to turn around his collapse in polls and stop Trump. Biden supporting genocide should be viewed as akin to if he came out supporting a national abortion ban or against gay marriage. That's how removed from not just the average activist who runs Dems' GOTV efforts but the average Dem-leaner Biden's foreign policy has become. Biden's support for Israel is not just egregious but antisocial and disruptive. It must be stopped, corrected, and Biden brought to heel. Stopping Trump is too great of an issue to let Biden throw the election. Edited May 27 by Communion 1
GhostBox Posted May 27 Posted May 27 And some here want him to win just to beat Biden so they can gloat 😂 2 1
clee95 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 people say Biden is bad, just wait for when trump gets in.. whew good luck. 1 1
Onyxmage Posted May 27 Posted May 27 The start of a new fascist regime and this time he will have the full cooperation of the federal government. We're cooked.
Onyxmage Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Shelter said: Can we just agree the US is trash. It's a no win situation. These false equivalencies are what always gives the US a republican majority and causes so much chaos every time it happens, especially with the economy. Edited May 27 by Onyxmage
IBeMe Posted May 27 Posted May 27 I just can't wrap my mind on why the Us gives Israel this level of cart Blanche to do these things…I know it's like an American outpost in the Middle East and the Us wants to dominate that region and all these things but even with other us partners we don't see THIS level of green lighting on atrocities and defence to this extent….I just can't understand wtf is going on
Shelter Posted May 27 Posted May 27 59 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: These false equivalencies are what always gives the US a republican majority and causes so much chaos every time it happens, especially with the economy. You like Biden? They can't come up with better options than these 2. Trump is going to win this time. Unfortunately
GraceRandolph Posted May 28 Posted May 28 6 hours ago, Illuminati said: If the average American is indifferent after everything that has happened in the past 8 years, maybe the approach should change. Me being embarrassed and having a crumb of self reflection in the future would actually be a step above the position that people like you took after the 2016 election, completely excluding themselves from the responsibility for electing Trump and allowing him to put people in lifetime positions of power. It's crazy to me that that's even possible. But you treat it so casually, got those dems that time for sure I'm not American, as you like to remind me, so yes I continue learning new quirks every day but that doesn't change the fact that you live in a bubble as well.
Onyxmage Posted May 28 Posted May 28 2 hours ago, Shelter said: You like Biden? They can't come up with better options than these 2. Trump is going to win this time. Unfortunately No I can care less about Biden thats what you dont seem to understand. Im not a fan of any politician but I do agree with many of his domestic policies, many of which are helping thousands of veterans and college graduates right now. Hes also pushing for even more student forgiveness while repubilcans are actively trying to block it. You need to realize that we are not just voting for a President, we are voting for an entire administration. Everyone Trump surrounds himself with is ready to dismantle our institutions to please him.
Eternal220 Posted May 28 Posted May 28 12 hours ago, Illuminati said: You would just say anything to elect that man First it was the advocating to not vote at all, now it's to stay quiet on Trump as he strolls into his second presidency. God forbid someone made a thread on Trump threatening to crush the pro Palestine movement and turn Gaza into a parking lot while also suggesting that Biden has been too generous for them in comparison to what he has in mind. Its definitely a pro CCP agent paid 50 cents per post. Trump elected is good for china as he will further disengage from Asia allowing china to take control. 1
GraceRandolph Posted May 28 Posted May 28 2 minutes ago, Eternal220 said: Its definitely a pro CCP agent paid 50 cents per post. Trump elected is good for china as he will further disengage from Asia allowing china to take control. Everyone is working for a foreign agent except AIPAC funded politicians. 1 1
Communion Posted May 28 Posted May 28 15 minutes ago, Eternal220 said: Its definitely a pro CCP agent Apparently only one of us is American. On 3/7/2023 at 10:06 PM, Eternal220 said: As an asian person living in Asia On 6/19/2023 at 12:44 AM, Eternal220 said: Thats like 1/5 of our population in Singapore? How are they so popular
Rep2000 Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Look how the tankies try so hard to move the rhetoric to near exclusive critiques of Democrats and "liberals", while being completely tonedeaf about Trump's blatant threats. 3
Glam Posted May 28 Posted May 28 The left made the worst mistake ever by going after Israel just like Trump was dumb for going after China.
Aethereal Posted May 28 Posted May 28 I understand your frustration. However the claim that there is a negligible difference between Trump and Biden when it comes to Palestinians is not accurate. I am gonna call it what it is. 1
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