lhdang2000 Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Witness deserves better than this. It just proves that the media right now has too much power in effecting the GP. They rated the album as bad, and people believe it's bad. In reality, it's way better than Prism, but the promotion strategy fails, the singles choice fails, and it leads Katy to this horrible chart placement.
Wonderland Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, Illuminati said: It's not her Artpop, it's not even her Bionic or Lotus, Witness is the new standard in terms of low sales. Katy always setting the standard. Queen
Little Dark Age Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 what in the world i guess people realized the album is very middle of the road still deserved better tho
Illuminati Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 At least she got those live stream views, right? Surely those accounted for a large portion of total sales minus the bundles. When will others? Makes me wonder how bad it could have gotten if it wasn't for the live stream.
taylor__fan Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 1. -96.43% - 28,003 (#1) to 1,000 (#4) - "The Life of Pablo", Kanye West3. [-91.36% - -89.51%] - 162,071 (#1) to [14,000 - 17,000] (#18), "Witness", Katy Perry" This is tragic
NumbSoul Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Lorde #1 and numbers going up SZA still Top10 Katy...
Misguided Ghost Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Congrats Lorde! Katy Edited June 21, 2017 by Misguided Ghost
MardinBeksloy Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, baobao199 said: Britney sold 30,925 (-71%) in the second week Glory sold 24.373 SPS (-79 %) in the second week 1 hour ago, baobao199 said: Quote Lotus 7 17 CHRISTINA AGUILERA RCA 54,119 -26% Bionic 3 11 CHRISTINA AGUILERA RCA/RMG 36,388 -67% Omg sis
calm_down Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, baobao199 said: Britney sold 30,925 (-71%) in the second week Glory sold 24.373 SPS (-79 %) in the second week Less than glory Britney jean, Glory, Bionic, Lotus who?
Mariano Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, sadnews said: some ticket bundle albums second week Madonna - MDNA (2013) 359,369 -> 47,696 -86.7% Chainsmokers - Memories... Do Not Open 166,044 -> 25,210 -84.8% Halsey - Hopeless Fountain Kingdom 75,551 -> 13,107 -82.6% Katy prediction is 89.5% ~ 91.3% Madonna 36 US show Chainsmokers 36 US show Halsey 30 US show Katy Perry 48 US show Number of shows doesn't matter, pretty sure Madonna had more attendance than Katy will have with her 48 shows. 1 hour ago, Navyofbadgals said: Katy not being an a list artist ever is bs plus she was bound to fall but not like dis Mte She has always been A lister (after 2010) and some people do love her. There was this dutch guy in my previos work that looked like Kurt Cobain And he used to tell me how Firework had become his theme songs and all of his friends think of him when they hear the song 1 hour ago, lhdang2000 said: Witness deserves better than this. It just proves that the media right now has too much power in effecting the GP. They rated the album as bad, and people believe it's bad. In reality, it's way better than Prism, but the promotion strategy fails, the singles choice fails, and it leads Katy to this horrible chart placement. I don't think the media is responsible tbh. Yes they unfairly panned the album, but it's not like metacritic makes any difference in the grand scheme of things, look at TD, PRISM etc. It's just some people really just don't like Katy. I tried so hard with my 2 best girlfriends and they listened to 1-2 songs form Witness and just said that they can't LISTEN to Katy's voice And honestly some songs could've sounded even better if someone else sang them I get where they are coming from.
Mariano Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, calm_down said: Less than glory Britney jean, Glory, Bionic, Lotus who? You can't compare Bionic and Lotus to Witness, the sales back then were totally different. Witness will still end up nbeing bigger than those, and definitely much bigger than Glory and BJ
zoldyck Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Mariano said: You can't compare Bionic and Lotus to Witness, the sales back then were totally different. Witness will still end up nbeing bigger than those, and definitely much bigger than Glory and BJ but positions on chart can be compared, witness will end up being in same league if it doesn't rebound
calm_down Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mariano said: You can't compare Bionic and Lotus to Witness, the sales back then were totally different. Witness will still end up nbeing bigger than those, and definitely much bigger than Glory and BJ Witness already have 3 singles and it will sure add another 1 or 2 singles. More promoted and more singles than Glory and BJ combined, of course It will sell more but MORE in the range of 50k or 70k maybe
gag Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Some people are saying Kanye has the highest second-week drop, some are saying it's Bon Jovi and others are saying Shawn Mendes.
Kisuke Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Lemon Drops said: Album Title Pure Sales Lemonade 196,000 ANTI 52,000 Joanne 43,000 Thank You 24,000 Dangerous Woman 22,000 This is What the Truth Feels Like 19,000 A Seat At The Table 16,000 Glory 14,000 This is Acting 11,000 7/27 6,000 Album Title SPS Units Lemonade 321,000 ANTI 96,000 Joanne 61,000 Dangerous Woman 50,000 Thank You 36,000 A Seat At The Table 34,000 Glory 24,000 7/27 23,000 This is What the Truth Feels Like 22,000 This is Acting 21,000 Album Title Pure Sales Teenage Dream 88,000 PRISM 92,000 The pure sales number really is not that bad. It was a massive drop from 170k pure sales but everybody knew that was lead by ticket bundle redemptions. It is sort of weird that it is so low though because she had more tickets go on sale Thurs/Fri. The SPS is abysmal though. No way you can defend that. Bey 20 years in the game
Mariano Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, calm_down said: Witness already have 3 singles and it will sure add another 1 or 2 singles. More promoted and more singles than Glory and BJ combined, of course It will sell more but MORE in the range of 50k or 70k maybe yes but that's excluding streaming. 8 minutes ago, zoldyck said: but positions on chart can be compared, witness will end up being in same league if it doesn't rebound Well yes, I guess. But also when you include streaming and touring, Katy will have done a lot better than the other albums by Xtina and Britney.
simmnfierzig Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mariano said: You can't compare Bionic and Lotus to Witness, the sales back then were totally different. Witness will still end up nbeing bigger than those, and definitely much bigger than Glory and BJ 2nd week on the BB200 Bionic #9 Glory #12 Lotus #17 Witness #18 predicted Britney Jean #22
Mariano Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Just now, simmnfierzig said: 2nd week on the BB200 Bionic #9 Glory #12 Lotus #17 Witness #18 predicted Britney Jean #22 that's also relative to competition. You can't really compare peaks either, because for example Bad Romance is much bigger than 80% of songs that went number 1. Paparazzi peaked at number 5 and has sold as much as many number 1s and so on. Also Katy's first week is much bigger than those 4 albums, so it doesn't matter that much where she is 2nd week compared to the others in their 2nd weeks. I am not saying Witness isn't underperforming severely, but yeah these comparisons are kind of invalid.
RomanNavy Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Witness is objectively the worst album ever created by a major pop star why is everyone surprised by these numbers
zoldyck Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mariano said: that's also relative to competition. You can't really compare peaks either, because for example Bad Romance is much bigger than 80% of songs that went number 1. Paparazzi peaked at number 5 and has sold as much as many number 1s and so on. Also Katy's first week is much bigger than those 4 albums, so it doesn't matter that much where she is 2nd week compared to the others in their 2nd weeks. I am not saying Witness isn't underperforming severely, but yeah these comparisons are kind of invalid. competition argument is valid for top 10 positions at most, like Taylor and Adele blocking people for multiple weeks, albums out of top 10 don't sell any significant amounts to give any kind of competition. This is pretty normal week Edited June 21, 2017 by zoldyck
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