bad guy Posted October 10 Posted October 10 25 minutes ago, Green said: They better keep playing Birds Sabrina has like 20 songs playing on radio right now. Couldn't they handle 2 Billie songs at the same time on radio? They also did it for Sour too with DL/Deja Vu/G4U but that was for her debut, and they tried the same for Guts and it didn't work. But Olivia's music is very mainstream and basically crafted for pop radio. My theory with the whole Billie and lack of radio thing is when she came out swinging in 2019 pop music didn't sound like WWAFA at all and especially on the radio so it was like…how do we play this I still remember how they took months to play bad guy consistently and at that point it had been Top 5 for awhile. And pop radio didn't even touch WTPO until bad guy was inescapable. Her music was just so different. Now pop music has kind of caught up to her, but even still it's no surprise that her biggest pop radio hit since bad guy has been Birds because it's an undeniable pop song unlike her other singles that aren't all that mainstream and lean more alternative. There is still a specific pop radio archetype that Billie rarely ever fits into and without major push like a Republic would give, Interscope just kinda lets it grow organically and if it's rejected they won't care. Possibly because they also know that Billie will make the most money for them with touring, album sales, and streaming so they don't feel the need to invest on radio since she's already a household name. That and she's never tried to be a pop star. She's clearly the anti-pop star (even though that isn't her intention to be she just is) of this generation who's been able to go against the grain and still be one of the biggest artists in the world. So yeah it's frustrating but it also highlights how organic her demand is. 6
Jenni Posted October 10 Posted October 10 17 minutes ago, bad guy said: They also did it for Sour too with DL/Deja Vu/G4U but that was for her debut, and they tried the same for Guts and it didn't work. But Olivia's music is very mainstream and basically crafted for pop radio. My theory with the whole Billie and lack of radio thing is when she came out swinging in 2019 pop music didn't sound like WWAFA at all and especially on the radio so it was like…how do we play this I still remember how they took months to play bad guy consistently and at that point it had been Top 5 for awhile. And pop radio didn't even touch WTPO until bad guy was inescapable. Her music was just so different. Now pop music has kind of caught up to her, but even still it's no surprise that her biggest pop radio hit since bad guy has been Birds because it's an undeniable pop song unlike her other singles that aren't all that mainstream and lean more alternative. There is still a specific pop radio archetype that Billie rarely ever fits into and without major push like a Republic would give, Interscope just kinda lets it grow organically and if it's rejected they won't care. Possibly because they also know that Billie will make the most money for them with touring, album sales, and streaming so they don't feel the need to invest on radio since she's already a household name. That and she's never tried to be a pop star. She's clearly the anti-pop star (even though that isn't her intention to be she just is) of this generation who's been able to go against the grain and still be one of the biggest artists in the world. So yeah it's frustrating but it also highlights how organic her demand is. Exactly, I also remember her team saying in an interview that at the very beginning of her career radios didn't want to play her music because it was "too depressed", so they decided to invest in playlists on spotify, that's why she released some remixes of her first songs, so they could put those remixes in random playlists. 1
Hurem Posted October 10 Posted October 10 POP: 1 1 BILLIE EILISH BIRDS OF A FEATHER 15800 15761 39 38.504 -6 Spins +74 Bullet +0.025 Audience HOT AC: 4 3 BILLIE EILISH BIRDS OF A FEATHER 4928 4673 255 14.881 +45 Spins +24 Bullet +0.208 Audience AC: 11 10 BILLIE EILISH BIRDS OF A FEATHER 351 201 150 0.991 +10 Spins -15 Bullet +0.015 Audience There is a lot of room for growth on both HAC and AC, at the very least another +5M audience from these two formats. They better pull through. 2
whatyouwant_ Posted October 10 Posted October 10 BOAF and WILD are really keeping in their positions on Apple Music US, i was expecting WILD to fall a bit by now but its holding strong 3
BloodLuster Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) 12 hours ago, Alex said: WILDFLOWER is about to be the craziest winter smash just wait I thought the same. Wildflower gave sleeper fall/winter single teas since release date Edited October 10 by BloodLuster 1
dreww Posted October 11 Posted October 11 I'm enjoying this smashery this era but a radio smash is all we need. WWAFA had BG and HTE had TIA. I'm shocked that BOAF isn't at 70-100M+ audience, considering how huge and radio friendly it is. anyone know how it's doing on callouts? 2
whatyouwant_ Posted October 11 Posted October 11 18 minutes ago, dreww said: I'm enjoying this smashery this era but a radio smash is all we need. WWAFA had BG and HTE had TIA. I'm shocked that BOAF isn't at 70-100M+ audience, considering how huge and radio friendly it is. anyone know how it's doing on callouts? Radio airplay was bigger back then. Now a #1 on POP radio barely gets 45m audience. The song needs to be a huge crossover to Rhythmic, Urban and Country format to get 80m-100m audience nowadays. Unfortunately BOAF is more of a pure pop song and that alone cut its chance to be played on Alternative. 1
dreww Posted October 11 Posted October 11 1 hour ago, whatyouwant_ said: Radio airplay was bigger back then. Now a #1 on POP radio barely gets 45m audience. The song needs to be a huge crossover to Rhythmic, Urban and Country format to get 80m-100m audience nowadays. Unfortunately BOAF is more of a pure pop song and that alone cut its chance to be played on Alternative. Well Alternative radio is nothing. I just wish it would peak with like 80M audience at least..
Dash_inthedark Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, whatyouwant_ said: BOAF and WILD are really keeping in their positions on Apple Music US, i was expecting WILD to fall a bit by now but its holding strong This week vogue cover. SNL in a week. 3 MSG shows next week. If they put out some vinyls and cassettes or instrumental versions idk this could be it. Perfect timing nothing major is happening (II don't think not sure) I want WILD to keep smashing but BOAF needs to be on top till the Grammys voting period at least. Edited October 11 by Dash_inthedark
AaronBryceSufjan Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) !! STREAM AND BUY CHIHIRO IN US🇺🇸 !! THE LAST HOUR Chihiro is currently #101 on the Billboard Year-End List (according TOTC exclusive content) Edited October 11 by AaronBryceSufjan 4
AaronBryceSufjan Posted October 11 Posted October 11 also HMHAS album is discounting to $7.51 on Amazon 1
Sheep Posted October 11 Posted October 11 10 hours ago, Green said: They better keep playing Birds Sabrina has like 20 songs playing on radio right now. Couldn't they handle 2 Billie songs at the same time on radio? Interscope will literally sometimes even pull other pop girls' singles from radio when they have more than one of them releasing simultaneously. 1
whatyouwant_ Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Today's Top Hits #1 (+3) BIRDS OF A FEATHER #11 (+4) WILDFLOWER 4
whatyouwant_ Posted October 11 Posted October 11 HOT HITS US playlist #1 BIRDS OF A FEATHER + Billie on the cover Seems like they are going all in on streaming 3
dreww Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Gag!! BOAF being back to #1 on TTH, hopefully we get another 8M streaming Friday like last week
whatyouwant_ Posted October 11 Posted October 11 We need BOAF back to 8m updates and WILD crossing 4m 2
LostInStereo100 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 This is her moment once again! Billie had a massive year!
Green Posted October 11 Posted October 11 7 hours ago, whatyouwant_ said: Today's Top Hits #1 (+3) BIRDS OF A FEATHER #11 (+4) WILDFLOWER Maybe this is the week to release some physicals of Birds Espresso sold 30k in a week thanks to that and Birds needs to sell around that numbers to have a chance against A Bar Song 2
Dash_inthedark Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) ? where can we confirm this? They would release it as singe in the uk only? why? Edited October 11 by Dash_inthedark
CherryBay Posted October 11 Posted October 11 49 minutes ago, Dash_inthedark said: ? where can we confirm this? They would release it as singe in the uk only? why? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3tqPdBWF9yMbTrfjWvfKV8t/radio-1-playlist
Dash_inthedark Posted October 11 Posted October 11 12 minutes ago, CherryBay said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3tqPdBWF9yMbTrfjWvfKV8t/radio-1-playlist Thanks. But this means it's now considered a single?
Hurem Posted October 11 Posted October 11 1 hour ago, Dash_inthedark said: They would release it as singe in the uk only? why? They possibly have different strategies for different regions. It's a good sign that they sent it to the UK radio. 3
CherryBay Posted October 11 Posted October 11 2 minutes ago, Dash_inthedark said: Thanks. But this means it's now considered a single? Usually when BBC puts a song on their playlist means that is a single. 1
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