Armani? Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Huh? But I was told by the punditry class that black students were content with being used as props and not inclined to protest against an ongoing genocide. What happened here? How could the Matt Yglesiases and Nate Silvers of the world gotten it so wrong? 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i spit on haters Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 MILLIONS will sit this election out (as they did in 2016 in not coming out to support Clinton). And I can't wait to not vote for Biden. And I'm going to keep saying it. Also, Biden's ironclad commitment to a foreign country that is undeniably committing genocide is far more nefarious than anything that occurred during Trump's presidency. I can't think of anything other than kids in cages (which liberals/neoliberals no longer cared about once Trump was voted out). But even then, there's kids in cages under Biden as there were under Obama. I would expect this sinister behavior from Trump but not the "decent guy", Joe Biden. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 17 minutes ago, i spit on haters said: MILLIONS will sit this election out (as they did in 2016 in not coming out to support Clinton). And I can't wait to not vote for Biden. And I'm going to keep saying it. Also, Biden's ironclad commitment to a foreign country that is undeniably committing genocide is far more nefarious than anything that occurred during Trump's presidency. I can't think of anything other than kids in cages (which liberals/neoliberals no longer cared about once Trump was voted out). But even then, there's kids in cages under Biden as there were under Obama. I would expect this sinister behavior from Trump but not the "decent guy", Joe Biden. You are privileged enough to screw over thousands of LGBT people for your own back pats gross 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 12 minutes ago, Hex said: You are privileged enough to screw over thousands of LGBT people for your own back pats gross You are privileged enough to screw over thousands of Palestinian children for your aging Biden 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien M Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Biden is terrible on Palestine, but not hoping for a Trump presidency is incredibly short sighted. Who do you think you're punishing? Trump will be 100x worse and will give 0 fcks. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 minutes ago, Damien M said: Biden is terrible on Palestine, but not hoping for a Trump presidency is incredibly short sighted. Who do you think you're punishing? Trump will be 100x worse and will give 0 fcks. Then the Democrats should listen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 14 minutes ago, Damien M said: Biden is terrible on Palestine, but not hoping for a Trump presidency is incredibly short sighted. Who do you think you're punishing? Trump will be 100x worse and will give 0 fcks. Typical Liberal "But Trump" ism Maybe Genocide Joe and his party should listen to what his constituents want for once. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CécredSpaces Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, i spit on haters said: MILLIONS will sit this election out (as they did in 2016 in not coming out to support Clinton). And I can't wait to not vote for Biden. And I'm going to keep saying it. Also, Biden's ironclad commitment to a foreign country that is undeniably committing genocide is far more nefarious than anything that occurred during Trump's presidency. I can't think of anything other than kids in cages (which liberals/neoliberals no longer cared about once Trump was voted out). But even then, there's kids in cages under Biden as there were under Obama. I would expect this sinister behavior from Trump but not the "decent guy", Joe Biden. I don't like Trump but the "kids in cages" thing was an Obama project: 'Kids in cages': It's true that Obama built the cages at the border. - The Washington Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 42 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: You are privileged enough to screw over thousands of Palestinian children for your aging Biden Single issue voters are selfish and privileged. Yourself included. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 minutes ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: Typical Liberal "But Trump" ism Maybe Genocide Joe and his party should listen to what his constituents want for once. You privileged people live in a simulation. These are the two choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I'm a dick because I would have dragged these kids if I was the school President. "First of all, you're not global citizens, you're American citizens." Anyway, Biden will give the graduation speech and those students are free not to attend. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 29 minutes ago, Hex said: Single issue voters are selfish and privileged. Yourself included. 28 minutes ago, Hex said: You privileged people live in a simulation. These are the two choices. Nah. My country is facing the most obvious case of genocide the world has witnessed since World War 2. So yes, this is my single-issue I am voting on. Both (actually all 3, including RFK Jr) are old white genocidal freaks. So I will be voting on mother Jill Stein. If Biden loses simply based on this one single issue, it is his fault and his fault alone. Have a great day, dupe account! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 33 minutes ago, Hex said: Single issue voters are selfish and privileged. Yourself included. Imagine calling someone privileged for caring about Palestinians. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 20 minutes ago, Kassi said: I'm a dick because I would have dragged these kids if I was the school President. "First of all, you're not global citizens, you're American citizens." Anyway, Biden will give the graduation speech and those students are free not to attend. And are American citizens supposed to be complicit in genocide? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Armani? said: And are American citizens supposed to be complicit in genocide? According to right-wing Dems and pundits that's the sensible, moderate position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 28 minutes ago, Armani? said: And are American citizens supposed to be complicit in genocide? They're not. In fact, it's the opposite. The US is using its influence to reduce civilian casualties of this war. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tovitov Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I am curious how Biden's speech goes. While we've seen a lot of chaos on college campuses, the graduation protests have been a lot more muted. Do I think Biden will get heckled when he goes to Morehouse? Yes. Do I think it'll be as severe as some people are hoping? Probably not, no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letemtalk Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 33 minutes ago, Kassi said: They're not. In fact, it's the opposite. The US is using its influence to reduce civilian casualties of this war. No one is falling for that good cop, bad cop routine from Biden and Netanyahu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 25 minutes ago, Letemtalk said: No one is falling for that good cop, bad cop routine from Biden and Netanyahu. There's no good cop/bad cop. There's Likud, Hamas, and innocent civilians caught in between. The US, like Qatar and Egypt, are a third party to the conflict and working to facilitate humanitarian aid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: Nah. My country is facing the most obvious case of genocide the world has witnessed since World War 2. So yes, this is my single-issue I am voting on. Both (actually all 3, including RFK Jr) are old white genocidal freaks. So I will be voting on mother Jill Stein. If Biden loses simply based on this one single issue, it is his fault and his fault alone. Have a great day, dupe account! 3 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: Imagine calling someone privileged for caring about Palestinians. Blood is on the hands of democratic voters who will sit out this election and allow trump to completely eliminate Palestine to a much further extent. This isn't rocket science. Trump will cause MORE Palestinians to perish. it selfish for you to allow this to happen just for your "good conscience". The Palestinian people would want you to vote for a president who would cause less death and destruction… which unfortunately is Biden. Crazy to say but it is true. You are ignorant and selfish if you don't see that Trump would be even more extreme. That is why you are selfish. You are willingly choosing the path for exponentially MORE Palestinians to perish. These are unbelievably hard times, war times. This is when you MUST choose the lesser of two evils. Would you rather 5 bullets in your chest or 10? Pretty easily you'd choose 5… same logic applies here Edited May 15 by Hex 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, Hex said: Blood is on the hands of democratic voters who will sit out this election and allow trump to completely eliminate Palestine to a much further extent. This isn't rocket science. Trump will cause MORE Palestinians to perish. it selfish for you to allow this to happen just for your "good conscience". The Palestinian people would want you to vote for a president who would cause less death and destruction… which unfortunately is Biden. Crazy to say but it is true. You are ignorant and selfish if you don't see that Trump would be even more extreme. That is why you are selfish. You are willingly choosing the path for exponentially MORE Palestinians to perish. These are unbelievably hard times, war times. This is when you MUST choose the lesser of two evils. Would you rather 5 bullets in your chest or 10? Pretty easily you'd choose 5… same logic applies here I live in a red state and voted for Biden in 2020, but don't expect me to vote for him no matter what. He is already losing Arab American, Black American, Gen Z, and even centrist Democrat support over many issues. Gaza, inflation, and his age/memory issues are making him a historically weak candidate. Dems should stop blaming voters and blame the Dem establishment that saddled us with a horrible candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: I live in a red state and voted for Biden in 2020, but don't expect me to vote for him no matter what. He is already losing Arab American, Black American, Gen Z, and even centrist Democrat support over many issues. Gaza, inflation, and his age/memory issues are making him a historically weak candidate. Dems should stop blaming voters and blame the Dem establishment that saddled us with a horrible candidate. Notice how you are still centering yourself in this conversation, not Palestinians or the people who will INFINITELY suffer more with Trump and his party in power…. Just for your little back pat of "sticking it to the Dems". People's lives are hanging in the balance. You have one option that is terrible and one option that is probably the close thing on this earth to evil. Choose wisely. Not voting means a vote towards Trump this time around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Hex said: Notice how you are still centering yourself in this conversation, not Palestinians or the people who will INFINITELY suffer more with Trump and his party in power…. Just for your little back pat of "sticking it to the Dems". People's lives are hanging in the balance. You have one option that is terrible and one option that is probably the close thing on this earth to evil. Choose wisely. Not voting means a vote towards Trump this time around. My state hasn't gone to a Democrat in a presidential election in decades. You really should be spending time trying to move Biden on Palestine and talking to your friends about voting, or donating to an important cause rather than trying to get me to vote for the warmonger in chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 31 minutes ago, Hex said: Blood is on the hands of democratic voters Well, you got that part right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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