Movimento Perpétuo Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I like Harry's music a lot. His last album is amazing but I lowkey agree. I think even Zayn has more artistic narrative than him and Zayn used to not give a f- about his music career for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club classic Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 this discussion over Harry Styles of all people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Pop Queen Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I've been saying this since he went solo lol. Nice to see more people waking up to just how utterly drab he is, even with all the cosplay. He might as well be AI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Dean Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I don't see why one would need an artistic narrative if you are consistently serving something consumers enjoy- which, based on his increasing sales, is what Harry is doing. No, I don't think he has a strong narrative at this point in his career, but that's okay. The "narratives" the op listed weren't really prevalent for those artists till they were years in their careers, anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discosean Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 5/13/2024 at 4:38 PM, Kimbra said: To quite honest I cannot describe Harry musically. Not even negatively. I regularly listen to him and can't even pick up on quirks unique to him that he isn't evoking from artist previously. Even Bruno Mars who's whole thing is retro music still sounds uniquely Bruno Mars. He feels like a placeholder artist despite his success. Like if Harry were to disappear musically would we even notice? Visually we may but that is the problem. What is so different about him and Charlie Puth or Shawn Mendes other than aesthetics. Since 2017 with his debut album it's like we've seen the finish line with him from the start The Next Bowie/Jagger and the machine pushed it but the journey to there has been denied to us so it rings a bit hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alldeezy Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 his first album was actually really good .. sadly all his later albums started sounded like every other MPB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvaasunto Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 He is the official living poster for hair transplant pop boys 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CozySkin Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 New Album when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 5/15/2024 at 3:59 PM, Movimento Perpétuo said: I like Harry's music a lot. His last album is amazing but I lowkey agree. I think even Zayn has more artistic narrative than him and Zayn used to not give a f- about his music career for a long time. Zayns new songs r REALLY good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout2006 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Y'all will say anything. Not like it matters anyway since he is one of the biggest male popstars rn. Cope 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daglazzo Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Can't believe harry styles is the topic of the 7 pages thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrorblade Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 5/14/2024 at 4:49 PM, Kimbra said: They tried to pull a Communion. this random drag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Harry winning AOTY is still He gives nothing and people eat it up, it seems like that is the industry today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_better Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I am not sure whether HS is underrated or overrated, but his music is terribly uninteresting to me. What a shame he is going down that mediocre pop tunes route, when his best album is probably his first, especially the heavier rock cuts And when he won that AOTY at the Grammy's I was pissed off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtinaUnderwood Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 I used to be a huge Harry stan, as you can see by my picture. I need to change it. Anyway, I realized that I don't like him anymore. The reasons are, his music is overall not good, his music is very repetitive and light on the lyrics, he's not a good songwriter, and everything about him is crafted by others, whether it's co-writers, stylists, etc. How can you have an artistic narrative when your whole persona, music, and style are given to you by a team? He can sell 20 million albums, win 10 Grammy's, and I'll still feel the same. Harry's House is unlistenable, Fine Line has a few decent songs, and debut is just crap. So repetitive. Choruses from the debut include, "She's a good girl, she's a good girl, she's a good girl, feel so good" and "She's an angel, she's an angel, she's an angel, my only angel" and "Woman, woman, woman, la la la la la la la." And with the way he dresses, alrhough I don't like most of his outfits, you'd think his music was good, quirky, and interesting. But no. I think he dresses "quirky" to cover up the fact that he has little talent. It's a travesty that he won album of the year over any of his co-nominees. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 He definitely does have a narrative imo. Sonically it's quite uremarkable I suppose, I would loosely describe it as soft pop rock with elements of indie music, all quite and safe and accessible (especially the most recent albums). But his image is definitely stronger and the root of his success. It tells more of a story too, leaning into that 70s flower power vibe but with heavy queer aesthetics built in which has obviously caused a lot of discussion about him baiting and appropriating queer culture; not nearly enough discussion to cancel him though, especially because the teen girls LOVE it and wouldn't care even if it was deemed problematic. Maybe the issue we're identifying is that a large number of people have identified that image he's curated as inauthentic/false which is potenntially fair, although I do think he pulls it off relatively well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbra Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 15 minutes ago, Fruity said: He definitely does have a narrative imo. Sonically it's quite uremarkable I suppose, I would loosely describe it as soft pop rock with elements of indie music, all quite and safe and accessible (especially the most recent albums). But his image is definitely stronger and the root of his success. It tells more of a story too, leaning into that 70s flower power vibe but with heavy queer aesthetics built in which has obviously caused a lot of discussion about him baiting and appropriating queer culture; not nearly enough discussion to cancel him though, especially because the teen girls LOVE it and wouldn't care even if it was deemed problematic. Maybe the issue we're identifying is that a large number of people have identified that image he's curated as inauthentic/false which is potenntially fair, although I do think he pulls it off relatively well. @More Than A Melody See? A narrative. Even if it isn't the strongest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbra Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 17 minutes ago, Fruity said: But his image is definitely stronger and the root of his success. It tells more of a story too, leaning into that 70s flower power vibe but with heavy queer aesthetics built in which has obviously caused a lot of discussion about him baiting and appropriating queer culture; not nearly enough discussion to cancel him though, especially because the teen girls LOVE it and wouldn't care even if it was deemed problematic. I definitely agree. That why I said his biggest hurdle will be a queer man with talent and accessible good music. On 5/13/2024 at 9:11 PM, Kimbra said: His biggest hurdle will be if an actual gay/bi man with artistic merit and accessible music emerges. That sliver of intrigue will evaporate. The focus will be on the authenticity of the "queerness" and if Harry is actually queer himself then the focus will become on the music in the hypothetical comparisons which he or his team will not want. Quote Maybe the issue we're identifying is that a large number of people have identified that image he's curated as inauthentic/false which is potenntially fair, although I do think he pulls it off relatively well. I do too. His ass looks amazing in those jumpsuit he wears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Than A Melody Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 43 minutes ago, Kimbra said: @More Than A Melody See? A narrative. Even if it isn't the strongest. This isn't "an artistic narrative"... that's a sound. You needed ATRL user Fruity to tell you what his sound is? You don't have ears? I beg of you to google the word "narrative" because I think what's missing here is a dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Let's be real most pop artists don't really have an artistic narrative in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Harry Styles is a blank canvas for whatever the board room comes up with 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbra Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 56 minutes ago, Into The Void said: Let's be real most pop artists don't really have an artistic narrative in the first place. Yeah but I want him to be more than a pop artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archetype Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Tbh yea, but for a major pop star, I think he's pretty good at putting effort into whichever aesthetic he is adopting and giving us something in the form of good MVs and fun performances. He's also, and this is incredibly important, NOT annoying as a person. He knows when to shut up and let others shine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocencelost Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 queerbaiting is his artistry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X~MoviePoP Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Didnt he just win a bunch of grammys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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