MattieB Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Lmao stanbases like swifties don't even need their leader to help settle donations to project pass the hat or the many gofundmes on operation olive branch. Taylor nation could single handedly use the exposure to help in any way they can. Tiktok influencers with 1/100 of the exposure and power these stanbases have have helped tremendously (yuval for example) At the point the fans and artists mimic each other
MattieB Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, perpetual novice said: this whole movement and the whole way that celebrities get judged and cancelled for their political takes is so out of touch and self serving. none of these artists can have even a slight impact on anything that is happening, even if they campaigned to the end of the earth in either direction. it's literally just so people can just feel better about being fans of the artists in question Yall need to stop this bs. Beyonce alone can push so many of the gazan families OUT Even if she doesn't want to herself, her fans CAN. This is what having FAME and INFLUENCE mean. Yall brag about it any other time why are yall making excuses now The only time they come to you is when they need yall to fund their next private jet or multimillion dollar estate. Wake up! 1 4 1
XXI. Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 hours ago, Fleahive said: It kinda makes sense if they lost lets say 50% of their following which would in turn pressure them to say something, but earlier in the thread we came to a conclusion that 95% of the blockout mafia have a hate boner for all celebs & never followed them in the first place which is why no major celeb's following has budged lol. That or they will make videos targeting celebrities they hate while actively stanning another celeb that's also silent lol. It's just an echo chamber of about 1-2 million online teenagers + some miserable old people patting each other on the back about non existent progress. The narrative of the war has completely turned into celebrity bashing circles lol. Oh and they refuse to vote when it's election time. This makes so much sense. I genuinely couldn't understand the objective from most people posting, and when I did I didn't understand how they actually planned to reach it. 1
More Than A Melody Posted May 12 Posted May 12 16 minutes ago, MattieB said: What do you honestly expect from them? They have to convince themselves this movement is all types of stupid so they can rest in their conscience at following these celebrity favorites If the movement is "dumb" then they don't feel guilt at ignoring it This attempt at guilt-tripping and rationalizing centering celebrities on a topic that's so important is just ridiculous. You can look up my comments in the actual thread about Gaza. I haven't been there in a while because I was losing my mind at some of the idiots commenting there, but I have looooong essays about this topic where it's very clear that it's one of my main priorities. I've gone to multiple protests, I've followed every boycott. I've educated every person that's in my circle on this topic. I think this whole thing is nothing more than dumbassery. If you search Gaza, Palestine, Israel, war, all the hashtags, all the avenues of information we had up until recently, all of it is just full of this nonsense about blocking celebrities. Information is being stunted because of it. Just like it happened when some idiot suggested that everyone should post a black square during the BLM protests back in 2020. The way we were spreading information about this before had Congress SO bothered they're trying to boycott TikTok. And now this nonsense is doing their work for them. People are arguing back and forth about what celebs and how to block them and why. And if it is or it isn't a good idea. You can block whoever you want, but it won't do anything. Joe Biden does not GAF if Beyoncé loses 2 million followers. I don't think Beyonce cares. And you'd have to convince 2 million people who were previously following Beyonce to block her. And guess what? She'd gain back those followers in a couple of weeks. The reasoning of Celebrities -> brands -> profit -> pressure makes no sense. Because it's gonna be fully diluted by the time it reaches profit. Why do you think we have BDS protocols to follow in the first place? The boycotts are targeted, against a handful of specific companies. It's thought out in a way that actually makes an impact. If you had to boycott all the companies that have zionist ties or financially benefit Israel you wouldn't be able to eat or travel or buy clothes. The SAME thing happens with celebrities. Most celebs are silent. Most have ties to zionist corporations and moguls. Most have done or said ignorant stuff in the past. Block the ones you think are worth blocking, stop consuming their content, and other than that ACTUALLY WORK ON SPREADING ACTUAL INFORMATION. You're completely losing sight of what's important. 7 1
Aethereal Posted May 12 Posted May 12 On 5/11/2024 at 11:12 PM, More Than A Melody said: Public opinion has been with Palestine since October. IDK if you've gone outside in the past couple of months but there's been protests with hundreds of thousands of people. Students and professors are being arrested, people have blocked arms shipments, polls are so overwhelmingly pro Palestine it's incredibly unlikely Biden will get a second term. It's not public opinion that needs to change. It's the establishment, and no celebrity, not even Taylor Swift and Beyoncé, can accomplish that. Being aware of that isn't worshipping celebrities. It's the opposite. Centering celebrities and flooding all the information channels with this nonsense is as useful as Blackout was in 2020. No matter where I look for the past several days, all my results are just celebrities, what celebrity did what and when and how much. It's f*cking insane. Polls were showing strong support for Israel in October. I agree that my anecdotal evidence says the opposite though.
BionicWooHoo Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Yall screaming performative activism but it has clearly worked on B list celebs and influencers like Chris Olsen and Lizzo who ALL OF A SUDDEN decide to make videos highlighting fundraisers for Gazan families. Will this affect people like Kim K who can afford to lose 100k followers? Nah but those B list influencers and celebs have been getting a lot of ppl to donate so overall it's a net positive
More Than A Melody Posted May 12 Posted May 12 16 minutes ago, Aethereal said: Polls were showing strong support for Israel in October. I agree that my anecdotal evidence says the opposite though. Public opinion started shifting almost immediately.
Scandalous Posted May 13 Posted May 13 (edited) why are people putting so much weight on what celebrities think this type of guilt-tripping thing wouldn't even result in anything authentic to begin with, intimidating celebs to speak out is so performative Edited May 13 by Scandalous 6
Kiss It Better Posted May 13 Posted May 13 16 hours ago, MattieB said: I think it's only peak performance activism because the people you developed unhealthy, unbalanced parasocial relationships with are at the fore front this time, so the only way for yall to cope is to denounce it anyway you can so yall can feel better about worshipping people who wouldn't touch yall with a six foot pole unless yall paid them first. ah yes cause they will stop attacking palestine cause I, a nobody, blocked every celebrities on this list 1
AaronBryceSufjan Posted May 13 Posted May 13 this trend is cringe tbh. some of y'all need to realize that there are possibilities that the silent major sides with Israel so you will stop doing this kind of nonsense 1
Bubble Tea Posted May 13 Posted May 13 I commented excitedly on Gaga's Chromatica tour video announcement and have been getting abusive replies for days.
Yayo94 Posted May 13 Posted May 13 I bet in 10 years or something The current form of social media will collapse and be replaced by a different less capitalist app And we'll only be connected with friends and fam there will be places like here and Reddit and forum-based communities for people to congregate in but I swear to god, we don't need to know the thought of every single person in the world because it's not even a space for proper conversations people just enter echo chambers and become more radicalised in whatever opinion they could have I guess that'll always be a think regardless but my lord, society would be better off i was hoping the BlackOut would be more generalised I don't ******* know 2
RandomHooker Posted May 13 Posted May 13 This is very stupid. The past was already dystopian enough. You had to wait for a genocide or SWJ to stop feeding into the egos of celebs. Hypocrites. The only celebrity that I have ever followed is Lady Gaga. I usually keep all my socials free from people I don't personally know. It's all acquaintances and memes/news. Y'all so late. 1
SharGaga Posted May 13 Posted May 13 Celebrities are not your saviors. This speaks more to their toxicity and obsession than anything else. 1
BODERLINE Posted May 13 Posted May 13 I'm so sick of stuff like this. Yeah, them speaking out would be nice and bring further attention to an important topic. But a tweet from Taylor or Gaga isn't going to bring world peace. It's not going to end the genocide. Could it generate donations? Sure. But that's where it will end. Efforts need to be aimed towards the government – towards the people who actually have any amount of control over this stuff (not that they actually give af but still). There is literally nothing any of these celebrities can do, but voice support. And voicing that support is ultimately not going to accomplish anything. If people put half the energy they put towards trying to get celebrities to speak out, towards the government instead, maybe we'd get somewhere.
MattieB Posted May 13 Posted May 13 7 hours ago, Kiss It Better said: ah yes cause they will stop attacking palestine cause I, a nobody, blocked every celebrities on this list This will always be fake to yall, this will always be performative to yall, this will always be a waste of time to yall. Your faves are at the forefront of criticism and you cant stomach it, so you come up with anything negative to associate this movement to so you can sleep well at night your privilege allows you to EVERYTHING starts from somewhere, blocking useless celebrities who only use their platform of influence and power to be Government 2.0 and suckle as much money from their supporters as possible before they retire, the worse thing here is that yall actually like giving this multimillionaires money
Kiss It Better Posted May 13 Posted May 13 5 minutes ago, MattieB said: This will always be fake to yall, this will always be performative to yall, this will always be a waste of time to yall. Your faves are at the forefront of criticism and you cant stomach it, so you come up with anything negative to associate this movement to so you can sleep well at night your privilege allows you to EVERYTHING starts from somewhere, blocking useless celebrities who only use their platform of influence and power to be Government 2.0 and suckle as much money from their supporters as possible before they retire, the worse thing here is that yall actually like giving this multimillionaires money i don't care if they get criticized lol i criticize them too but blocking celebrities won't do anything, but protesting and donating will
MattieB Posted May 13 Posted May 13 13 hours ago, More Than A Melody said: This attempt at guilt-tripping and rationalizing centering celebrities on a topic that's so important is just ridiculous. You can look up my comments in the actual thread about Gaza. I haven't been there in a while because I was losing my mind at some of the idiots commenting there, but I have looooong essays about this topic where it's very clear that it's one of my main priorities. I've gone to multiple protests, I've followed every boycott. I've educated every person that's in my circle on this topic. I think this whole thing is nothing more than dumbassery. If you search Gaza, Palestine, Israel, war, all the hashtags, all the avenues of information we had up until recently, all of it is just full of this nonsense about blocking celebrities. Information is being stunted because of it. Just like it happened when some idiot suggested that everyone should post a black square during the BLM protests back in 2020. The way we were spreading information about this before had Congress SO bothered they're trying to boycott TikTok. And now this nonsense is doing their work for them. People are arguing back and forth about what celebs and how to block them and why. And if it is or it isn't a good idea. You can block whoever you want, but it won't do anything. Joe Biden does not GAF if Beyoncé loses 2 million followers. I don't think Beyonce cares. And you'd have to convince 2 million people who were previously following Beyonce to block her. And guess what? She'd gain back those followers in a couple of weeks. The reasoning of Celebrities -> brands -> profit -> pressure makes no sense. Because it's gonna be fully diluted by the time it reaches profit. Why do you think we have BDS protocols to follow in the first place? The boycotts are targeted, against a handful of specific companies. It's thought out in a way that actually makes an impact. If you had to boycott all the companies that have zionist ties or financially benefit Israel you wouldn't be able to eat or travel or buy clothes. The SAME thing happens with celebrities. Most celebs are silent. Most have ties to zionist corporations and moguls. Most have done or said ignorant stuff in the past. Block the ones you think are worth blocking, stop consuming their content, and other than that ACTUALLY WORK ON SPREADING ACTUAL INFORMATION. You're completely losing sight of what's important. Quote This attempt at guilt-tripping and rationalizing centering celebrities on a topic that's so important is just ridiculous. You can look up my comments in the actual thread about Gaza. I haven't been there in a while because I was losing my mind at some of the idiots commenting there, but I have looooong essays about this topic where it's very clear that it's one of my main priorities. I've gone to multiple protests, I've followed every boycott. I've educated every person that's in my circle on this topic. I think this whole thing is nothing more than dumbassery. This entire post is a cavalcade of contradiction, at the very least you will UNDERSTAND the core principle of why people are removing access to their online data from celebrities and their associated companies. You following every boycott and attending protests does NOT absolve you from being blinded by celebrity worship because this time UNLIKE the others we're targeting celebrity worship, the very essence of yalls personalities. Quote If you search Gaza, Palestine, Israel, war, all the hashtags, all the avenues of information we had up until recently, all of it is just full of this nonsense about blocking celebrities. Information is being stunted because of it. Just like it happened when some idiot suggested that everyone should post a black square during the BLM protests back in 2020. NOW THIS I can agree with you on, HOWEVER, you have to give people grace, the met gala and that Haley bailey moron was the cherry on the cake. You can tell society has become restless from the years of abuse from their government and are lashing out any way they can. On my FYP the blocking is bringing more attention to Passthehat and Operation Olive Branch, its doing something. Its funny you bring up that performative black square BS back in 2020, the gestures may have been hollow, but peep the patterned behavior of people who denounced it then and how its repeating itself now. These people would've never cared regardless, then or now and will paint the movements black just so they can sleep well at night. Look at the inane comments in this thread alone Quote The way we were spreading information about this before had Congress SO bothered they're trying to boycott TikTok. And now this nonsense is doing their work for them. People are arguing back and forth about what celebs and how to block them and why. And if it is or it isn't a good idea. You can block whoever you want, but it won't do anything. Joe Biden does not GAF if Beyoncé loses 2 million followers. I don't think Beyonce cares. And you'd have to convince 2 million people who were previously following Beyonce to block her. And guess what? She'd gain back those followers in a couple of weeks. You simply do not get why this boycott was started, the boycott has zero to do with Biden's decisions, its to do with deified figures in society who are literally refusing to do their part by influencing their supporters to help the cause Of course she will, celebs buy followings all the time, I don't doubt the huge celebs will gain some if not all back, swifties alone will make sure their white overlord gets her lick back Quote The reasoning of Celebrities -> brands -> profit -> pressure makes no sense. Because it's gonna be fully diluted by the time it reaches profit. Why do you think we have BDS protocols to follow in the first place? The boycotts are targeted, against a handful of specific companies. It's thought out in a way that actually makes an impact. If you had to boycott all the companies that have zionist ties or financially benefit Israel you wouldn't be able to eat or travel or buy clothes. The SAME thing happens with celebrities. Most celebs are silent. Most have ties to zionist corporations and moguls. Most have done or said ignorant stuff in the past. Block the ones you think are worth blocking, stop consuming their content, and other than that ACTUALLY WORK ON SPREADING ACTUAL INFORMATION. You're completely losing sight of what's important. I don't think any of that matters, if people want to seize the data from celebrities and their respective companies let them, this is why engagement matters, you can have all the following but the following-to-engagement ratio matters a lot to ad statistics. Bots can only interact much. People feel helpless, alone and scared, we are watching CHILDREN BEING TORN APART ON THE DAILY, if this helps people cope LET THEM, the very least these celebs can do is shine their light of influence to AT THE VERY LEAST fast track the donations to help evacuate families from Gaza, THIS is why we're mad, the BARE MINIMUM is lost on them, they arent even doing THAT, but we should care about whoever the **** designer they got on the met gala. They can **** the entire hell out of here. If Yuval, a tiktoker with 1/1000000000000000000000 the influence of taylor swift helped raise 200k USD for a family, what do you think Taylor can do Has taylor done a free concert for her fans? has beyonce? do they do give aways? all these people do is take and take, and instead of yall focus to be on them, the "performative" movement is where yall's focus is on
MattieB Posted May 13 Posted May 13 10 minutes ago, Kiss It Better said: i don't care if they get criticized lol i criticize them too but blocking celebrities won't do anything, but protesting and donating will THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TELLING THEM TO DO! For Pete's sake!
Kiss It Better Posted May 13 Posted May 13 4 minutes ago, MattieB said: THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TELLING THEM TO DO! For Pete's sake! and what does blocking them do? nothing 1
StayFrosty Posted May 13 Posted May 13 If this was a true movement, you'd see it happen organically, you'd see hordes of people unfollowing ALL celebs without someone instructing them who to unfollow on a tiktok video . 5 1
TouchinFree Posted May 13 Posted May 13 What's the point of this? Not like they care to begin with. Boycott your governments the ones that are funding wars against children. All major brands we buy fund genocides in Gaza and have been funding genocides in Yemen for years on now yet the media don't show you that. Or the corruption funded in Africa and the Middle East, Iraq. Let's not. Whilst I think any effort is appreciated, this is useless. Going after Hollywood the biggest Israeli funded industry is just useless. Celebs have to be Israel's number one ally otherwise..... well that's another story. 1 1 1 1
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