ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 6 ATRL Moderator Posted May 6 I am pro-Palestine, and I understand some frustrations but what I don’t understand is why some people have attacked Olly and Bambie even though they are two of the contestants that have spoken out the most, yet they ignore the contestants in the contest who haven’t said anything. 2
Pendulum Posted May 6 Posted May 6 1 hour ago, John Slayne said: he has control over his career and what he does. he chose to participate, that does not make him a victim. people are allowed to criticise him and ask him to boycott, if he can't handle it maybe fame isn't for him. He was probably chosen to go to Eurovision before October 7th and pulling out of the contract would have led to consequences. I'm pro-Palestine as they come but I'm ******* tired of people who have never seen Eurovision discuss this. Yes, the contest is hypocritical and Israhell should not participate but any meaningful activism should've happened months ago and should've been directed at the participating broadcasters. Not at Olly and the other participants. The contest is literally starting tomorrow. Nothing can be done. So enough. 7 1
Pendulum Posted May 6 Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, khalyan said: I am pro-Palestine, and I understand some frustrations but what I don't understand is why some people have attacked Olly and Bambie even though they are two of the contestants that have spoken out the most, yet they ignore the contestants in the contest who haven't said anything. ouu don't let them learn about Tali 1
Daddy Posted May 6 Posted May 6 He went from ugly to a One Piece character. Also him calling it war says it all.
FOCK Posted May 6 Author Posted May 6 9 minutes ago, khalyan said: I am pro-Palestine, and I understand some frustrations but what I don't understand is why some people have attacked Olly and Bambie even though they are two of the contestants that have spoken out the most, yet they ignore the contestants in the contest who haven't said anything. Can we stop using terms like "attacked" here? Criticised. He's being criticised. People want action. We're 7 months into these horrors. There isn't a person on earth who is "unaware". "Speaking out" without action is performative at this point. Olly's platform, reach & the specific nation he represents is relevant & has already been explained. What difference does it make, anyway? There are people asking for someone with a platform, who's demonstrated an understanding of the situation, to take direct action & then, there are detractors who would prefer activism not inconvenience them and their "entertainment", who say things like "what about that other guy?". 6
Mr.X Posted May 6 Posted May 6 2 hours ago, wildsidenormani said: i am so sick of hearing people say 'complicated situation' as a cop out from speaking up wishing nothing but the worst for him and everybody else taking participating in that shitty contest This. He literally made it all about himself. Disgusting 1
loveisdead9582 Posted May 6 Posted May 6 36 minutes ago, khalyan said: I am pro-Palestine, and I understand some frustrations but what I don't understand is why some people have attacked Olly and Bambie even though they are two of the contestants that have spoken out the most, yet they ignore the contestants in the contest who haven't said anything. Olly is an easy target. We've all seen the disdain that some members have towards "white twinks". This is simply another way for them to attack and hide behind morality. If they were truly feeling some type of way they would be bringing this level of energy to EVERY contestant. 33 minutes ago, Pendulum said: He was probably chosen to go to Eurovision before October 7th and pulling out of the contract would have led to consequences. I'm pro-Palestine as they come but I'm ******* tired of people who have never seen Eurovision discuss this. Yes, the contest is hypocritical and Israhell should not participate but any meaningful activism should've happened months ago and should've been directed at the participating broadcasters. Not at Olly and the other participants. The contest is literally starting tomorrow. Nothing can be done. So enough. Very that. As far as I'm aware, the contestants have been decided for a long time now. It wouldn't surprise me if he would have to face some sort of consequences if he pulled out of the competition. People need to take their hatred and focus it on the broadcasters and on the show runners who have allowed Israel to compete. 1
visions Posted May 6 Posted May 6 This is such a shame. I love Olly, and he usually seems so much more aware than this. That being said, his tears mean nothing here. Yes, harassing celebrities (anybody) is wrong but holding them accountable for sh*tty decisions should always be the way. He's only taking this stand because he wants to take part in… Eurovision. As excuses go to not stand up for what's right, that one is p*ss poor.
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 6 ATRL Moderator Posted May 6 I’m closing this as this has been discussed and addressed here numerous times already 1 3
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