byzantium Posted April 27 Posted April 27 59 minutes ago, Taylena said: Taylor's Spanish language album when? If China ever allows Spotify in the country then it's really over for everyone else. Also did TTPD flop in the Philippines? No, Speak Now is just THAT album and the Philippines has good taste.
TayDine1989 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 1 hour ago, Monster Queen said: Philippines - Speak Now (Taylor's Version) (Taylor Swift) SLAY
Kitboga Posted April 27 Posted April 27 57 minutes ago, Aethereal said: Taylor having most of her streaming units from US, Canada and Australia. Without taking in consideration UK. I think the total sum of her sales in Anglosphere might represent 75% of her real units. Granted her pure sales ( both her tracks and album are even more local than streaming is) are also mostly US followed secondly by the other English speaking countries. Wow you know Taylor's numbers so well, all the way down to which country or region? Then you mustve saw that she moved around ~25-30M units outside the US alone, which means whomever your fave is, he/she/they and they career peaks undoubtedly got completely blown the fook out by Taylor in 1 year? The only question is if Taylor outsold them by 2x or 20x? So what does all that coping with region do for you? 1
Taylena Posted April 27 Posted April 27 6 minutes ago, byzantium said: No, Speak Now is just THAT album and the Philippines has good taste. I think it did less streams than Midnights too.
Aethereal Posted April 27 Posted April 27 13 minutes ago, Kitboga said: Wow you know Taylor's numbers so well, all the way down to which country or region? Then you mustve saw that she moved around ~25-30M units outside the US alone, which means whomever your fave is, he/she/they and they career peaks undoubtedly got completely blown the fook out by Taylor in 1 year? The only question is if Taylor outsold them by 2x or 20x? So what does all that coping with region do for you? Y'all are crying over the argument that Taylor might've sold 170M units instead of 200M. First world problems. 1 2
Monster Queen Posted April 27 Author Posted April 27 1 minute ago, Aethereal said: Y'all are crying over the argument that Taylor might've sold 170M units instead of 200M. First world problems. Noone is crying about it cause there is only one person in this world making up this 170M number "based on their observation on her Spotify number" 6
The Music Industry Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 33 minutes ago, FENTY. said: There is more diversity here than in Asian music scene NO there is not This is such an Eurocentrist thing to say. Your continent with less than 750M people is not musically more diversified than a continent with 4.7 billion people. Europeans as a whole tend to listen to the same music genres/songs way more than in Asia. It's not rare for the same songs to be smashing across Europe, whereas the top songs in India are rarely ever (if ever) the same as the top ones in China, and the ones in China are rarely the ones smashing in Japan, and the ones smashing in Japan are rarely ever the ones smashing in Korea, and so on and so forth. It's just factually incorrect to act like the Asian music scene isn't diverse/less diverse when countries have their own defining genres and sub-genres in a way the European mind can't comprehend Edited April 27 by The Music Industry 8 1
Kitboga Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Aethereal said: Y'all are crying over the argument that Taylor might've sold 170M units instead of 200M. First world problems. Firstly, Not only she for sure sold 200m+ as stated by multiple different outlets who aren't some unwell hater doing mental gymnastics to cope, that wasn't even my point. my point is: how does "regions" matter when she outsold your fave's biggest career peak by anywhere between 5x-20x last year? Edited April 27 by Kitboga 1 1
JO1s Posted April 27 Posted April 27 48 minutes ago, FENTY. said: But in Asia K-pop is dominating which is exactly what you described that apparently European people love lol. And lbr it's harder for black artists to break into Asian market. That's not the case for Europe. There is more diversity here than in Asian music scene K-pop's domination comes a lot because Korea's govement has been funding the Korean pop culture wave to play catch up with Japan for over 2 decades now. However outside of K-pop the markets of just the big 3 countries of east Asia are so far different with very little crossover. Japan alone has the 2nd most diverse music market in terms of genres and sounds that succeed. Also Mariah, Janet and I think even Whitney had better stats in most of asia than madonna. It's hard for angolesphere artists to make it in these markets in general now. The last english songs that were big in japan were from 2017/2018 and in Korea 2019/2020. 1
FENTY. Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 56 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: NO there is not This is such an Eurocentrist thing to say. Your continent with less than 750M people is not musically more diversified than a continent with 4.7 billion people. Europeans as a whole tend to listen to the same music genres/songs way more than in Asia. It's not rare for the same songs to be smashing across Europe, whereas the top songs in India are rarely ever (if ever) the same as the top ones in China, and the ones in China are rarely the ones smashing in Japan, and the ones smashing in Japan are rarely ever the ones smashing in Korea, and so on and so forth. It's just factually incorrect to act like the Asian music scene isn't diverse/less diverse when countries have their own defining genres and sub-genres in a way the European mind can't comprehend I was talking about foreign artists breaking into European market. I am sure local artists in those said countries smash in their homelands But do Asians listen to black artists (outside of 80s/90s)? Latin music? Are they extremely successful there like in Europe? Edited April 27 by FENTY.
The Music Industry Posted April 28 Posted April 28 1 minute ago, FENTY. said: I was talking about foreign artists breaking into European market. I am sure local artists in those said countries smash in their homelands But do Asians listen to black artists (outside of 80s/90s)? Latin music? Are they extremely successful there like in Europe? Let's flip it around: Do Europeans listen to Chinese artists? Filipino music? J-pop? Like... Also, you were originally talking about diversity of the music scene, you did not mention anything about foreign artists being able to break in. That's a totally different thing, and I'm not sure what your point is there. You were arguing that being able to smash in Europe is a benchmark for globalness, but if you recognize that it's harder for western artists to smash in Asia, then doesn't it make it even more impressive from a global perspective when a western artist smashes in Asia over Europe, then? 1 1
Carrie-is-no-1 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 4 hours ago, Taylena said: Also did TTPD flop in the Philippines? I just realised that. The better album won
Russell22 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 5 hours ago, Taylena said: Also did TTPD flop in the Philippines? It's doing great actually, it's just that PPOP is growing exponentially atm. By PPOP, I mean dancey/bubble gum type of music and TTPD is the opposite of that. Local artists are catching up to her daily streams, but she's still number 1 for almost 2 years now. The Era's tour Singapore vs other SEA issue also kinda hurt her as fans we're slightly disappointed that they didn't get watch. 1 1
Punky Rooster Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Bad Bunny is clearly bigger globally than Taylor Swift :o 3
I'm JAVIng Fun Posted April 28 Posted April 28 14 hours ago, byzantium said: No, Speak Now is just THAT album and the Philippines has good taste. The streams for Speak Now TV were so huge here that Back to December hit #1 in my country that week as well.
WildHeart Posted April 28 Posted April 28 7 hours ago, Punky Rooster said: Bad Bunny is clearly bigger globally than Taylor Swift :o Why is he doing bigger numbers in nowhere but only LATAM then?
Punky Rooster Posted April 28 Posted April 28 6 hours ago, WildHeart said: Why is he doing bigger numbers in nowhere but only LATAM then? Not so much numbers but the amount of countries. He's more global in terms of reach in popularity. 2
WildHeart Posted April 29 Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Punky Rooster said: Not so much numbers but the amount of countries. He's more global in terms of reach in popularity. He is only bigger in LATAM countries (except Brazil) which has less than 500M population. He is not bigger in any Asian country, any European country except Spain, any Oceanian country or US+Canada. 2
Punky Rooster Posted April 29 Posted April 29 7 hours ago, WildHeart said: He is only bigger in LATAM countries (except Brazil) which has less than 500M population. He is not bigger in any Asian country, any European country except Spain, any Oceanian country or US+Canada. Ok x
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