Dante Posted April 19 Posted April 19 its good for insulin resistance, but im guessing losing muscle mass is inevitable with that
Raphy23 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 It's essentially the reason why I'm so toned, muscular and skinny. I eat dinner at 7pm and then the next day I don't have "breakfast" until 1pm. So basically I just skip breakfast and it keeps me looking great! I also go to the gym but I started seeing great results after starting intermittent fasting.
dinorhino Posted April 19 Posted April 19 On 4/18/2024 at 10:44 AM, Trent W said: It really works, I've been doing it for almost a year The only bad thing is that you can lose muscle(at least in my case) So I have to eat more meals in my eating window or cancel the fasting for weeks to build up some muscle back. You will lose muscle in a calorie deficit without muscle training. Your muscles will not be maintained without stimulation and it will become the primary source of energy to expend to account make up for the energy in a calorie-deficit diet. It's why you can easily lose weight but not fat by a calorie deficit diet The only way to lose fat is a calorie deficit AND strength training, whether it be body weight (calisthenics) or lifting weights
Trent W Posted April 19 Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, dinorhino said: You will lose muscle in a calorie deficit without muscle training. Your muscles will not be maintained without stimulation and it will become the primary source of energy to expend to account make up for the energy in a calorie-deficit diet. It's why you can easily lose weight but not fat by a calorie deficit diet The only way to lose fat is a calorie deficit AND strength training, whether it be body weight (calisthenics) or lifting weights In my experience I've always lost muscle in calorie deficit But honestly is not too much, I only lose it drastically if my protein intake decreases. When I was fasting I did less meals and less protein intake so maybe it was one of the reasons
dinorhino Posted April 20 Posted April 20 5 hours ago, Trent W said: In my experience I've always lost muscle in calorie deficit But honestly is not too much, I only lose it drastically if my protein intake decreases. When I was fasting I did less meals and less protein intake so maybe it was one of the reasons Even with strength training you will lose muscle in a calorie deficit. There's no way of avoiding it. But strength training is the best way of not having it be the primary source of energy used to compensate for energy when doing calorie deficits without any sort of muscle stimulation (i.e. just by diet) Also depends on how much weight you're losing, too. Obese people ironically have more muscle mass than non-obese people and use their muscles more as a result of their weight, indirectly being a method of muscle stimulation that helps them focus on losing more fat as they lose weight 10 hours ago, Raphy23 said: It's essentially the reason why I'm so toned, muscular and skinny. I eat dinner at 7pm and then the next day I don't have "breakfast" until 1pm. So basically I just skip breakfast and it keeps me looking great! I also go to the gym but I started seeing great results after starting intermittent fasting. This sounds like very disordered eating and something I'd expect from pro-ana folk lol I will say that breakfast is very overrated and often times unnecessary. Just depends on what you're doing if you need food that early or not but it can often times be omitted
Raphy23 Posted April 20 Posted April 20 9 hours ago, dinorhino said: Even with strength training you will lose muscle in a calorie deficit. There's no way of avoiding it. But strength training is the best way of not having it be the primary source of energy used to compensate for energy when doing calorie deficits without any sort of muscle stimulation (i.e. just by diet) Also depends on how much weight you're losing, too. Obese people ironically have more muscle mass than non-obese people and use their muscles more as a result of their weight, indirectly being a method of muscle stimulation that helps them focus on losing more fat as they lose weight This sounds like very disordered eating and something I'd expect from pro-ana folk lol I will say that breakfast is very overrated and often times unnecessary. Just depends on what you're doing if you need food that early or not but it can often times be omitted Huh? I eat a **** ton of food, I just keep it to 2 meals a day. Honestly I never planned it, it just worked for me and my schedule and I later realized I was intermittent fasting. I also weight lift at the gym 5x a week.
X~MoviePoP Posted May 26 Author Posted May 26 Just wanted to update yall. The mix of the fasting, issues with my top effecting my mental and eating habit and bottom diet (to prevent accidents lol) has led me to lose like 25 pounds. Idk how lol. Im tryna gain back 5-10 in the body but keep my face slim and toned like it is now.
shyboi Posted May 26 Posted May 26 i read that intermittent fasting is causing more damage than good 1
shyboi Posted May 26 Posted May 26 i read that intermittent fasting is causing more damage than good 1
MasterExpose Posted May 26 Posted May 26 (edited) Never understood fasting. I ate 8 times a day during my cut before bulking and lowered my BF to 10% without starving myself it all depends on the type of food you're eating (and ration) and even during my cut I was so full after meals. Edited May 26 by MasterExpose
X~MoviePoP Posted July 12 Author Posted July 12 Well its been 5 months-ish. And i lost like 30-35 pounds and my stomach like shrunk because it gets full mad fast now but i think i went a bit overboard bcs everyone keeps saying i look do skinny so now im tryna even it out and bulk a little and turn it into muscle (especially cause i dont want to lose my butt).
Raphy23 Posted July 12 Posted July 12 (edited) It's not even that serious, just skip breakfast (no snacks, nothing but water or black coffee till lunch). HOWEVER the best tip I have is you have to start your first meal of the day with a high protein(some fats), no carb/sugar meal. So like scrambled eggs is perfect (just skip the toast). The worst thing you can possibly do is break your fast with a carb or sugar (donut, croissant, cereal). Your body burns fat while you sleep, if you break your fast with protein you body continues to burn fat throughout the day, but if you break fast with carb/sugar your body with stop burning fat and you'll be stuck with that stubborn fat. Edited July 17 by Raphy23
CottageHore Posted July 13 Posted July 13 Likely because when you're in your non-fasting period, you're not consuming what you once consumed in an entire day so your calorie intake decreasing has caused you to be in a caloric deficit. But intermittent fasting's benefits are more long-term. Intermittent fasting is shown to increase autophagy (recycling of waste in the mitochondria of cells which increase cell turnover) which is linked to longer lifespan. Many neurologists and nutritionists say that getting your body used to being under stress like not eating for extended periods of time is good for it, it's I like your body is building immunity and endurance. 1
Capris Groove Posted July 13 Posted July 13 I don't like having a restrictive relationship with food. It just wouldn't work for me, when I'm hungry I eat lol. The key for me is to try to eat well - a Mediterranean-style diet of mostly vegetables, lots of variety, eating until I'm satisfied not stuffed, cooking not takeout, less red meat, and whole foods not processed foods. 1
Raphy23 Posted July 17 Posted July 17 On 7/13/2024 at 1:18 AM, CottageHore said: Likely because when you're in your non-fasting period, you're not consuming what you once consumed in an entire day so your calorie intake decreasing has caused you to be in a caloric deficit. But intermittent fasting's benefits are more long-term. Intermittent fasting is shown to increase autophagy (recycling of waste in the mitochondria of cells which increase cell turnover) which is linked to longer lifespan. Many neurologists and nutritionists say that getting your body used to being under stress like not eating for extended periods of time is good for it, it's I like your body is building immunity and endurance. Do you know if it works similar for drinking water? I drink A LOT of water and often, and I remember years back I had a blood test and couldnt drink anything until my test (so no water all night and a few hours in the morning), and when I got my results my doctor was like damn your body really does not like restricting it's water. But I was to young to ask for more details. I wonder if I should train my body to have some resilience because if Im ever in a situation or emergency where it's hot and I have no access to water for a few hours I may be in trouble.
CottageHore Posted July 17 Posted July 17 28 minutes ago, Raphy23 said: Do you know if it works similar for drinking water? I drink A LOT of water and often, and I remember years back I had a blood test and couldnt drink anything until my test (so no water all night and a few hours in the morning), and when I got my results my doctor was like damn your body really does not like restricting it's water. But I was to young to ask for more details. I wonder if I should train my body to have some resilience because if Im ever in a situation or emergency where it's hot and I have no access to water for a few hours I may be in trouble. I'm not an expert on this topic so beware, just very intrigued by all of it. But I would say probably not. Water is a very important component for cell turnover and if you're fasting food-wise, you need water to facilitate the process of autophagy and if you're fasting off of water but still eating food, most foods contain water so it defeats the purpose anyway. Also, fasting water leads to bloating and the opposite effect of autophagy. I wouldn't be concerned about the way your body needs water or whatever your doctor said. Not drinking water for that long will negatively impact anyone and it's good that your body needs water to be healthy, it would die without it. As far as I know, autophagy really only applies to fasting food and water should always be consumed in high amounts when fasting food to facilitate cell turnover, prevent faintness and dehydration as well as muscle weakness, and to help you feel fuller longer. I'd say never cut out water- water has no caloric content. It's literally the building block of our anatomy so your body won't function to its highest degree without it. But definitely ask a professional if you're interested in trying that method! 1
terrijoe Posted July 18 Posted July 18 im so petite feminine and fragile.. i envy people who have cushion for the pushin :( i only drink a sip of water and one organic grap and feel so bloated and full.
TinashesLighter Posted July 18 Posted July 18 i feel like people see the "fasting" part and immediately assume you're starving yourself or not eating as much. some people do fast for extended periods but for those that eat within certain windows during the day, they could still get a normal amount of calories in. I started doing fasts this year and it helped kill a lot of excess eating/sugar craving. I thought it would be rough not eating for a certain amount of hours initially but i'm also fat so maybe that helped lol. I still struggle with getting my diet in check and if i tried doing one meal a day, it would be rough trying to eat a big meal (ironic!) but overall the benefits really do seem worth it. I lost like 5 pounds my first week and still had enough energy to work out like normal. I urge anyone who is interested in intermittent fasting to do their research and try it out for themselves
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