Mandalore Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) 16 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: Yeah twitter's "viral" tweets don't faze me because it's the same subcircle of people who never liked her circle jerking each other over and over again. Same as ATRL, just at a slightly bigger scale. The other day I literally laughed at the thought of getting worked up over like "12" likes on a post spewing disdain towards her on here. I can't believe we let that get under our skin sometimes when that isn't even a fraction of a percent of the people that actually DO like her. It's so easy to focus on the negative in the moment, we all need to work on tuning it out. Cause it's only gonna get worse until she stops the tour and stops putting out albums, cause her domination probably isn't going anywhere at this point. Tbh the only time I engage with it here is when I see something worth mocking These forum hags (no offense to those aging gracefully) can be so stupid I just have to laugh. As for everything else, it's not gonna go away and she won't be slowing down anytime soon until December at the earliest so buckle up and enjoy as the Twitter vibes community tries so hard to make a narrative that translates into the actual world and fails miserably. I also think there has been a shift in Taylor herself where she doesn't even try to cater to anyone anymore (even her fans) and is just doing whatever the hell she wants. She's moving in the industry like a pro athlete, must be all the hanging out she's been doing around them. Also my algorithm must be perfectly in tune because I genuinely don't even see the negativity and I engage with Taylor content a lot. Edited June 18 by Mandalore 3
Mandalore Posted June 18 Posted June 18 18 minutes ago, Squall said: Do you guys remember the article that was released some months (?) ago listing artists using autoplay on Spotify and Taylor wasn't in it? There was an ATRK thread but I can't find it anymore and I don't remember the publication It was from Spotify themselves 1
Klein Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Any praise or drag will never make people change their mind if they already like her or hate her anyway. The only thing that could truly impact her popularity and standing with her fans and the GP would be a true assassination of her character, and when the worst she's doing is releasing variants, I think she'll be more than fine. Also, if anything, someone neutral to her that is exposed to this "hate train" will most likely be sick of the hate before they are sick of Taylor herself, who's pretty much done nothing this year since the Superbowl outside of releasing music/playing concerts (which... is her job as an artist). That's already happening with certain members on ATRL that used to get their kiis in the hate threads and that are now showing they're tired of it. But at the same time, why would people stop dragging her when it's the most engagement they'll ever receive? 8
Mandalore Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Klein said: But at the same time, why would people stop dragging her when it's the most engagement they'll ever receive? Literally this, the fact that tweets are monetized now is the real incentive behind it. Agree with everything you said though. She's doing nothing but her job and these people keep throwing good karma her way for no reason. Edited June 18 by Mandalore 2
Mr. Duff Posted June 18 Posted June 18 22 hours ago, BabyBenzz said: after having the album on repeat for nearly two months straight, leaving me practically unable to listen or enjoy my other fave's music, or Taylor's other albums for that matter.. i can say with confidence that TTPD is her best album I agree with you.
IBeMe Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Taylor we need single #2 queen It's ok if there is no music video...just give us a 2nd single already.
Peak Now Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 minute ago, IBeMe said: Taylor we need single #2 queen It's ok if there is no music video...just give us a 2nd single already. Do we really want a 2nd single when it's going to be Broken Shart 1 1
Enrique523 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 hour ago, PoisonedIvy said: Yeah twitter's "viral" tweets don't faze me because it's the same subcircle of people who never liked her circle jerking each other over and over again. Same as ATRL, just at a slightly bigger scale. The other day I literally laughed at the thought of getting worked up over like "12" likes on a post spewing disdain towards her on here. I can't believe we let that get under our skin sometimes when that isn't even a fraction of a percent of the people that actually DO like her. It's so easy to focus on the negative in the moment, we all need to work on tuning it out. Cause it's only gonna get worse until she stops the tour and stops putting out albums, cause her domination probably isn't going anywhere at this point. Completely agree. I think sometimes we tend to let ourselves be worked up over the hate when in reality it's only 50-60 people at BEST doing it on ATRL. Such a small amount of people is not worth getting worked up over. My biggest issue has always been with the mods letting this sh*t happen more than the hate itself. 5
Cleanromantic Posted June 18 Posted June 18 I don't care about the hate because she seems to have finally stopped caring as well. She just seems to be genuinely unfazed by what the haters and fans have to say about her, and it comes off in how carefree and silly she is on the Eras tour. 4
Enrique523 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Klein said: Any praise or drag will never make people change their mind if they already like her or hate her anyway. The only thing that could truly impact her popularity and standing with her fans and the GP would be a true assassination of her character, and when the worst she's doing is releasing variants, I think she'll be more than fine. Also, if anything, someone neutral to her that is exposed to this "hate train" will most likely be sick of the hate before they are sick of Taylor herself, who's pretty much done nothing this year since the Superbowl outside of releasing music/playing concerts (which... is her job as an artist). That's already happening with certain members on ATRL that used to get their kiis in the hate threads and that are now showing they're tired of it. But at the same time, why would people stop dragging her when it's the most engagement they'll ever receive? That's the thing right there. Hating her has become a grift, the same way you see "anti-woke" grifters all over Youtube.
Peak Now Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) Spoiler To be honest I would vastly prefer her get hate-trained over releasing mid (disclaimer that "mid" is subjective etc.) than whatever made-up bullshit like the Kimye phone call or her bullying Celine Dion or wtv The OTHs can have a little critical panning as a treat Edited June 18 by AndThenTheCocaine
Cleanromantic Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Why am I sitting in a train station randomly crying about ttpd . I can't explain how sad and emotional this album makes me feel. She perfectly captured that experience of being so depressed you begin to question your sanity, and it's so raw and honest.
PoisonedIvy Posted June 18 Posted June 18 The way it takes a hyperbolic demonstration of irony and satire for them to recoil and reflect on the way they've been acting. 1 5
Dear Reader Posted June 18 Posted June 18 6 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: The way it takes a hyperbolic demonstration of irony and satire for them to recoil and reflect on the way they've been acting. Some of them couldn't understand a Taylor metaphor if it hit them in the head, don't be surprised 1 3
Holiest Dreams Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Klein said: Also, if anything, someone neutral to her that is exposed to this "hate train" will most likely be sick of the hate before they are sick of Taylor herself, who's pretty much done nothing this year since the Superbowl outside of releasing music/playing concerts (which... is her job as an artist). That's already happening with certain members on ATRL that used to get their kiis in the hate threads and that are now showing they're tired of it. Oh this absolute spill. This is always a cycle with Taylor, it seems. Something super tiny (so tiny that it's no different than what her peers do, 99% of the time) gets blown out of proportion and then even some of the haters are like "okay y'all are being psychotic " and lost interest. You could even make the argument that it happened with TTPD release. The takes became so ridiculous (people who probably degrade her writing skills taking simple metaphors literally ) that many people stopped caring. It's annoying that it has to get to this point, but it's honestly funny. Our "cookie cutter wonderbread queen who has no edge at all" etc etc inciting so much hatred from people that some semi-sane individuals recant their hate 2
Holiest Dreams Posted June 18 Posted June 18 3 minutes ago, Dear Reader said: Some of them couldn't understand a Taylor metaphor if it hit them in the head, don't be surprised Person A: "Taylor's writing has the depth of a kiddy pool, it requires no deep examination" Person A, again: "This is the asylum she was raised in? [photo of her childhood home]" World class comedians wish they could come up with a situation so ironically hilarious 5 2
OnlyManInTheWorld Posted June 18 Posted June 18 I'd be more concerned if people stopped caring about me. They're always hating on those who are staying on top. People in general love to see spectacular downfalls. We just live in a very miserable world and the internet allows you to let your frustrations out. 1
Dear Reader Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 minute ago, Holiest Dreams said: Person A: "Taylor's writing has the depth of a kiddy pool, it requires no deep examination" Person A, again: "This is the asylum she was raised in? [photo of her childhood home]" World class comedians wish they could come up with a situation so ironically hilarious This happens with Swifties too. They'll say we're not "able to take criticism" because we don't agree with Fantano's views of the album 1
Peak Now Posted June 18 Posted June 18 It's almost as if when an MPG is at the top of her game the usual suspects come out of the woodwork to hate her because it now makes them "cool" and "not like the other sheeple" We've seen this with literally every other MPG who ruled the charts before, you'd think their fans would at least be a bit more understanding
Peak Now Posted June 18 Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, Dear Reader said: This happens with Swifties too. They'll say we're not "able to take criticism" because we don't agree with Fantano's views of the album "Why do Swifties not agree that TTPD is the worst collection of auditory nuisance ever created and belongs on the garbage island in the middle of the Pacific? Literal cult behaviour." 7
Enrique523 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Dear Reader said: This happens with Swifties too. They'll say we're not "able to take criticism" because we don't agree with Fantano's views of the album Are those "Swifties" really not able to see that Fantano has obvious bias against her? I'm pretty sure he talked about "professional victimhood" about this album, which immediately makes that ass*ole lose all credibility 1
Enrique523 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 hour ago, AndThenTheCocaine said: It's almost as if when an MPG is at the top of her game the usual suspects come out of the woodwork to hate her because it now makes them "cool" and "not like the other sheeple" We've seen this with literally every other MPG who ruled the charts before, you'd think their fans would at least be a bit more understanding I remember how hateful people were toward Adele during her reign at the top, so many people called her overrated and boring. Now suddenly she's a "real artist" with "real talent" unlike Taylor apparently
Cleanromantic Posted June 18 Posted June 18 I know people say it just to have some hate-filled gotcha moment, but I think the most asinine take I've been seeing is "Taylor needs Liz Rose to edit her songs" when, apparent from All too well, she hadn't worked with her since 2008 . I know they're doing it caise it's a way to make her artistic choice to be wordy on this album like a failure, when she's done both wordy and succinct songwriting since 2008. It also speaks to people blocking out years of her career and pretending she debuted in 2022 to cope with the fact she's dominating 20 years in when people they love fell off 5 years in . 1 2
Peak Now Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: I remember how hateful people were toward Adele during her reign at the top, so many people called her overrated and boring. Now suddenly she's a "real artist" with "real talent" unlike Taylor apparently Exactly lmao And don't get me started on how everyone was perfectly fine with using chart positions and streams to praise their fave/drag other artists until Taylor started outperforming everyone else after the Eras Tour started Or how "comparing charts/streams" has literally been the modus operandi of stan Twitter and every pop culture forum since the Internet existed-- what do you think the "TRL" in ATRL stands for Edited June 18 by AndThenTheCocaine 4
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