album Taylor Swift - 'THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT'

[Cleanromantic]

Have they opened the "swifties feel comfortable being homophobic in the ttpd thread" thread yet or are they waiting for a certain member to report in hq?

[Holiest Dreams]

Just a side rant about all that's been going on lately, I hope people don't get too caught up in this. I don't think a single thing has truly shifted since last year, the only thing being that she's obviously making the industry uncomfortable with her domination. And that was bound to happen. But endless videos tour went "viral" last year with people online (it's always just Twitter and small sections of Reddit or TikTok) attempting to drag her performance skills. I really don't think there's a bigger wave of hate right now than there has been since Taylor Mania started last spring. It may seem worse because it's been coming more heavily from pop stan leaning spaces this time around (stan twt, ATRL, etc because of the Charli/Billie nonsense) but that's about it.

 

I suppose you could also say her universal acclaim streak has obviously ended. I don't think her next few albums will be fairly reviewed whatsoever. But I hope TTPD was the worst of it, because it was clearly an album people just couldn't digest immediately. 
 

At the end of the day, I only care about whether I like the music, visuals, etc first and foremost. And then speaking on what metrics concern me it's whether the GP still likes her, her fanbase is still with her, and that she's still relevant. Critics mean nothing to her anymore, so if I like what she's doing then I only ~care~ about seeing that other people in the real world like it as well.

[PoisonedIvy]

9 minutes ago, Mandalore said:

I would go low but I've been getting hit with warning points for the tamest comments, meanwhile people calling us racists and n@zis are engagement farming here and get pats on the back for it  Truly like fave like stans 

It's ok, I'm taking on the martyr role. I don't want anyone else to suffer from my exercise in hyperbolic reflective irony & satire. I'm burning myself at the figurative stake just to make a point.  When I'm gone just remember me fondly  

 

I will doze off soon and wake up to banishment I'm sure.  

[Nick_317]

3 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

It's ok, I'm taking on the martyr role. I don't want anyone else to suffer from my exercise in hyperbolic reflective irony & satire. I'm burning myself at the figurative stake just to make a point.  When I'm gone just remember me fondly  

 

I will doze off soon and wake up to banishment I'm sure.  

You look like

Mother Teresa

In this light

We're loving it. You've got the irony

She never did

The future's bright. Dazzling

[PoisonedIvy]

1 minute ago, Nick_317 said:

You look like

Mother Teresa

In this light

We're loving it. You've got the irony

She never did

The future's bright. Dazzling

 

 

yall crack me up 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Sometimes when they go low you have to go lower. I'm in the trenches. 

 

 

You sure have changed, you are in your villain era now 

[mxoonlight]

I'm confused. Pages of talking about other people whose opinions do not matter instead of the music. Is this not the problem?

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Nick_317 said:

 

You can see how pressed he is towards the end of the video like he is literally surpassing his angerSo much for someone that 'does not care' about chartsLiterally OTH behaviour 

Is this a new video he just made? I'm NOT clicking on that crap 

 

I know he's a Charli fanboy but does he really think Charli is not incredibly petty in her own right? 

[Dear Reader]

Just now, mxoonlight said:

I'm confused. Pages of talking about other people whose opinions do not matter instead of the music. Is this not the problem?

People are free to share their thoughts about it here since it's impossible to do it anywhere else without getting ganged up. 

[PoisonedIvy]

3 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

You sure have changed, you are in your villain era now 

One might say I am.. poisoned ivy 

 

 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, PoisonedIvy said:

One might say I am.. poisoned ivy 

 

 

Oh wow

 

Sometimes going low is satisfying, especially when you still have the truth on your side.

[mxoonlight]

4 minutes ago, Dear Reader said:

People are free to share their thoughts about it here since it's impossible to do it anywhere else without getting ganged up. 

She's selling millions of records weekly and has countless fans with adjacent communities online. If ATRL is what's breaking you, I don't know how totalitarian the validation you seek from enjoying her output needs to be honestly.

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, PoisonedIvy said:

It's prevalent in their marketing too. Introspective and demure femininity is often seen as "the standard," think of the average American "ideal" wife — a "traditional" and approachable woman, like the "relatable" girl next door brand of Taylor.

 

Whereas the disruptive and indepndent-forward femininity is seen as something larger than life that exists outside the confines of structural societal norms — aka a deity that exists beyond our present realm, much like the way Bey markets herself. 

And the funny thing is: Beyonce, on average, is WAY more acclaimed than Taylor. Nobody dares to go after Beyonce the way people attack Taylor because they're too afraid to be seen as "racist" while it's apparently ok to viciously attack Taylor 24/7 because she's a "privileged billionare white woman". As if Beyonce isn't a MASSIVELY privileged billionaire herself 

 

Both of them are very different artists at the end of the day, comparing them makes zero sense. You don't see male artists been compared that way.

Edited June 18, 2024 by Enrique523

[Dear Reader]

1 minute ago, mxoonlight said:

She's selling millions of records weekly and has countless fans with adjacent communities online. If ATRL is what's breaking you, I don't know how totalitarian the validation you seek from enjoying her output needs to be honestly.

ATRL is not breaking me or any of the swifties in here. Sometimes it's just fun to discuss things with other fans too. It's not that deep, I think. 

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, mxoonlight said:

She's selling millions of records weekly and has countless fans with adjacent communities online. If ATRL is what's breaking you, I don't know how totalitarian the validation you seek from enjoying her output needs to be honestly.

It's human nature. It's literally why sports fans fight all year long about their favorite teams. No need to psychoanalyze it. "Us VS Them" is a fundamental foundation of human consciousness. 

[Badgalbriel]

I think it's time for us to start flooding this website with every single positive thing that goes viral about her, right? And make it sound like it went viral due to wrong reasons

[Badgalbriel]

Swiftie goes mega viral for Unexpected Nature Interference

 

 

 

 

[mxoonlight]

2 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

It's human nature. It's literally why sports fans fight all year long about their favorite teams. No need to psychoanalyze it. "Us VS Them" is a fundamental foundation of human consciousness. 

It is human nature to burn hours talking about nothing!

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

I think it's time for us to start flooding this website with every single positive thing that goes viral about her, right? And make it sound like it went viral due to wrong reasons

That can be phase 2 if the mega thread of hatred doesn't work out. 

 

 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Holiest Dreams said:

Just a side rant about all that's been going on lately, I hope people don't get too caught up in this. I don't think a single thing has truly shifted since last year, the only thing being that she's obviously making the industry uncomfortable with her domination. And that was bound to happen. But endless videos tour went "viral" last year with people online (it's always just Twitter and small sections of Reddit or TikTok) attempting to drag her performance skills. I really don't think there's a bigger wave of hate right now than there has been since Taylor Mania started last spring. It may seem worse because it's been coming more heavily from pop stan leaning spaces this time around (stan twt, ATRL, etc because of the Charli/Billie nonsense) but that's about it.

 

I suppose you could also say her universal acclaim streak has obviously ended. I don't think her next few albums will be fairly reviewed whatsoever. But I hope TTPD was the worst of it, because it was clearly an album people just couldn't digest immediately. 
 

At the end of the day, I only care about whether I like the music, visuals, etc first and foremost. And then speaking on what metrics concern me it's whether the GP still likes her, her fanbase is still with her, and that she's still relevant. Critics mean nothing to her anymore, so if I like what she's doing then I only ~care~ about seeing that other people in the real world like it as well.

Oh yeah, 100%. This kind of viral hate has been happening ever since Taylor Mania started, it hasn't started the last few months. Those people NEVER mattered in the grand scheme of things, not then and certainly not now. 

 

I'm also kind of worried about the critical reception of her follow up albums, some critics will feel more comfortable bashing anything she does now because there's this feeling going around that she needs to be put in her "place". And the fact that TTPD managed to become such a massive success despite the mixed reviews will make some of them even more mad, since it's reminding them that they truly have no power in the real world 

 

 

Edited June 18, 2024 by Enrique523

[PoisonedIvy]

1 minute ago, mxoonlight said:

It is human nature to burn hours talking about nothing!

Yes, correct. Ancient civilizations used to gather in arenas and coliseums just to LISTEN to legislators discuss society.  

[Badgalbriel]

 

 

 

Taylor Swift goes mega viral for stealing from Rihanna 

Edited June 18, 2024 by Badgalbriel

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, mxoonlight said:

I'm confused. Pages of talking about other people whose opinions do not matter instead of the music. Is this not the problem?

No, the problem is how people are constantly ganging up on Taylor over literally ANYTHING. This is her thread so it makes sense to talk about it, any fanbase whose fave go through a hate train would do the same.

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Badgalbriel said:

I think it's time for us to start flooding this website with every single positive thing that goes viral about her, right? And make it sound like it went viral due to wrong reasons

We should absolutely do that. But i bet you anything that threads like that will be closed pretty quickly. Remember how mods last year put an end to some Taylor threads because she was beating too many records? 

[Mandalore]