celeb news HDD: Taylor Swift is the most dominating artist "since the heyday of The Beatles"

[WildHeart]

14 minutes ago, rihannafan said:

Is Africa, especially subsaharan Africa, not a corner of the world?

Well there are 4 countries with Spotify data from Africa so... 

 

Egypt 

Taylor - #47

Beyonce - N/A

 

Morocco

Taylor - #54

Beyonce - #99

 

Nigeria 

Beyonce - #95

Taylor - #134

 

South Africa 

Beyonce - #10

Taylor - #11 

 

Looks like Nigeria is standing strong for her. Only the most global artist since MJ 

[Twixters]

Funny people are bringing up Latin and African markets. In the next 20 years when they become more dominate markets for music I wonder how it will shift the plane. I see a lot more black and brown artist dominating over white ones.

[Jay07]

Why are people fuming over Beyonce in a thread about Taylor being as big as the *chortle* Beatles?

[P!nk]

I don't think anybody can deny Taylor's star power and absolute dominance within the music industry. 

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

Again the us media and her team are doing pr move by using other artists name to make her look good and bigger than she actually is

 

She doesn't hold a candle. The Beatles has more no.1s hits ww and sold more pure. None of her forgettable and disposable girly  songs are remembered.

 

So don't drag other artists to make her look good. 

Outside the us, many people still don't know who she is, nor can they name a title of her songs.

Edited April 18, 2024 by thequeenofpopmadonna

[Sweetness]

On 4/16/2024 at 11:17 AM, Finkypop said:

ATRL hates to see that she's the biggest artist of all time. This album release is gonna be iconique to experience 

 

Yet not one album on the best sellers list of all time, not top 10 in with most numbers 1's ww, isn't the best selling of all time,  doesn't even have 1 song that was biggest of the year at any given time. But I guess were suppose to focus on America and and handful of countries. In fact wasnt she in the bottom 10 when they compared her to other iconic female artist? Even Spears was above her in the top 5.

Edited April 19, 2024 by Sweetness

[RobynYoBank]

27 minutes ago, Sweetness said:

Yet not one album on the best sellers list of all time, not top 10 in with most numbers 1's ww, isn't the best selling of all time,  doesn't even have 1 song that was biggest of the year at any given time. But I guess were suppose to focus on America and and handful of countries. In fact wasnt she in the bottom 10 when they compared her to other iconic female artist? Even Spears was above her in the top 5.

Those albums took decades to ascend to those positions. Notably, The Beatles only have one album in the Top 50 of all time, but their entire catalog is so universally successful that they're by far the most successful artist. She's on a very similar trajectory.

[Gov Hooka]

MJ in the Thriller era was bigger than Taylor right now

[Reflektor_Creep]

Paul, John, Ringo and George, sweeties

[lael]

She is the biggest artist since the Beatles in the US, but not globally. There are a lot of artists more global than Taylor (despite the Eras tour grossing a lot, she has toured in less countries than most female artists and has few number one hits in Europe and Latin America), but this is not the case for the Beatles. The Beatles were massive in every corner on the globe. 

[alestevens]

3 hours ago, lael said:

There are a lot of artists more global than Taylor

Name them

[lael]

2 hours ago, alestevens said:

Name them

Michael Jackson, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Elvis Presley, Shakira, Madonna, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Celine Dion, Rolling Stones, Queen. 

[lael]

 

https://www.tiktok.com/@chartstats/video/7222061149766896939

 

 

[lael]

2 hours ago, alestevens said:

Name them

Elton John would also be there. 

[lael]

Taylor's singles don't chart all that well in mainland Europe until very recently and even then she doesn't chart well in Romania, Spain, Italy, France, etc. Her songs also don't chart well in South America outside of Brazil and Argentina. The Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson and Madonna were massive everywhere. 70% of Taylor's sales come from the US (though Taylor is huge in the majority of Asia). 

[lael]

Taylor has also never toured Africa. In fact, she has only toured in about 22 countries. Madonna, Beyoncé and Shakira have toured in over 50. 

[lael]

Taylor is a goddess in the anglosphere and Southeast Asia though. 

[jim19911126]

I still don't know how she managed to do all those numbers and the hype all by sudden, all these blew ups still look very very, odd, to me.

 

folklore did an amazing number, evermore went down kinda badly then fearless TV became one of her lowest debut number.

SN and RED TV were not bad and understandable since folklore did 800k plus the first week, but what happened from Midnights-Eras Tour-1989 TV and TTPD was still a huge question mark for me.

 

Her new fans really grew rapidly only in less than 2 years? How did she push 2.6M from 800k in such a short time?

 

No shade but seriously how?

[alestevens]

4 hours ago, jim19911126 said:

I still don't know how she managed to do all those numbers and the hype all by sudden, all these blew ups still look very very, odd, to me.

 

folklore did an amazing number, evermore went down kinda badly then fearless TV became one of her lowest debut number.

SN and RED TV were not bad and understandable since folklore did 800k plus the first week, but what happened from Midnights-Eras Tour-1989 TV and TTPD was still a huge question mark for me.

 

Her new fans really grew rapidly only in less than 2 years? How did she push 2.6M from 800k in such a short time?

 

No shade but seriously how?

It was a slow burn really. It was almost 4 years of hard work that got her here. folklore and evermore solidified her as an artist worth respecting for a public that had not been paying attention yet until that moment, while also gaining back some fans that had left along the way.

 

Fearless TV and Red TV made these new fans realize that what they thought to be "inferior" offerings back in the day were actually very good too so they started delving more on her back catalog, and anticipating her next re-recordings along with the fans that were already waiting for the unreleased tracks that were expected to come with them.

 

And then she came out with a new album announcement that no one really saw coming and just broke the internet because we all knew it was going to be the musical event of the year as all eyes were on her, for better or for worse.

 

And when she ended up delivering, she announced The Eras Tour, which was an unprecedented social media smash that made interest on all her musical eras increase all over the world. Even in all those places that were not that big of a market for her before ended up getting hooked on her back catalog, fueled by Midnights being an absolute smash there and the tour performances going viral all the time.

[WildHeart]

8 hours ago, lael said:

 

https://www.tiktok.com/@chartstats/video/7222061149766896939

 

 

Not pure sales when she peaked in... 2020s

 

TTPD - 254M

 

 

8 hours ago, lael said:

Taylor has also never toured Africa

Africa music market is almost non-existent. No artist who is touring with stadiums tour any other country other than South Africa. 

 

8 hours ago, lael said:

70% of Taylor's sales come from the US (though Taylor is huge in the majority of Asia). 

That's not true. Her US share in 2020s was 39%. She sold more than 85M units outside the US in the last 4 years alone. 

[lael]

On 4/16/2024 at 4:43 PM, WildHeart said:

Well there are 4 countries with Spotify data from Africa so... 

 

Egypt 

Taylor - #47

Beyonce - N/A

 

Morocco

Taylor - #54

Beyonce - #99

 

Nigeria 

Beyonce - #95

Taylor - #134

 

South Africa 

Beyonce - #10

Taylor - #11 

 

Looks like Nigeria is standing strong for her. Only the most global artist since MJ 

Madonna is after Michael Jackson and more global. Also, what about Shakira? 

[lael]

2 hours ago, WildHeart said:

Not pure sales when she peaked in... 2020s

 

TTPD - 254M

 

 

Africa music market is almost non-existent. No artist who is touring with stadiums tour any other country other than South Africa. 

 

That's not true. Her US share in 2020s was 39%. She sold more than 85M units outside the US in the last 4 years alone. 

Chartmasters states that as a whole, 70% of her sales also come from the US. Then there is the matter of chart performance: 

 

 

 

 

[lael]

I'm not saying that Taylor isn't global, but there are a lot of acts that are more global. 

[lael]

You say that the African market is almost non-existent, but Africa is comprised of almost 50 countries and over a billion people, so if we are talking about global success it's relevant. 

[AvadaKedavra]

This will not last that much. She will keep working with jack antonoff. Coming with lover 3.0 / lover 4.0 rehash and the GP will turn against her
She will be seen as a safe artist and bland music. The beatles were innovators. Experimentals
I love Taylor but if she keeps working with that guy hope her albums are panned.