Suilen Posted April 12 Posted April 12 28 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: Again, non-binary means something outside of male or female.. like this is literally why the "non" part is there. This person wants features of both stereotypical binary genders. So not only are they not non-binary, they're actually the exact opposite.. bibinary maybe? idk I'm not being hateful, it's just that my brain hurts from all the squeezing. Let's not invent new terms now, shall we? There's such a thing as 'bigender', and it falls under the non-binary umbrella too. Not all non-binary people completely reject femininity or masculinity, some may choose to preserve them to some extent and still not identity as a man or a woman. This is what non-binary means - you are neither this nor that, but you can be 'in-between' or completely outside of it, like agender people. 1 1
dumbsparce Posted April 12 Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Suilen said: Let's not invent new terms now, shall we? There's such a thing as 'bigender', and it falls under the non-binary umbrella too. Not all non-binary people completely reject femininity or masculinity, some may choose to preserve them to some extent and still not identity as a man or a woman. This is what non-binary means - you are neither this nor that, but you can be 'in-between' or completely outside of it, like agender people. Term invention and "umbrellas under other umbrellas" is what the online lgbtetc community does on the daily. Are you serious with this?
Suilen Posted April 12 Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: Term invention and "umbrellas under other umbrellas" is what the online lgbtetc community does on the daily. Are you serious with this? What I'm saying is that we already have semi-established categories that describe different experiences of non-binary people and if you were genuinely curious about what being non-binary means instead of coming up with your own definition of it and rejecting people from that category, you would come across those terms. 1 1
dumbsparce Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Just now, Suilen said: What I'm saying is that we already have semi-established categories that describe different experiences of non-binary people and if you were genuinely curious about what being non-binary means instead of coming up with your own definition of it and rejecting people from that category, you would come across those terms. I have done extensive research and talked to people about it irl and I'm still as confused as ever bc they all had a different story to tell. Why are you getting worked up over an incorrect term that could have very well been the "semi-established" one if the twitterheads had thought about it first? 1
elevate Posted April 12 Posted April 12 37 minutes ago, PoisonPill said: Maybe it was a good thing when we all knew less about each other. You say this in jest but medical history should be personalised, intimate, and private. It sounds like the patient understood her needs but a group, influenced by right-wingers who don't have any interest in trans or nb people other than control and humiliation, could not cater to her. Other joke posts in this thread about this being a waste of money are also correct. This is literally what happens when propaganda and misinformation from useful idiots is treated as valid and part of a "both-sides" discussion. If we had left it to legitimate scientists and peer reviewed studies, we wouldn't be delving into these territories now, and it won't end in the next few years. 1
Suilen Posted April 12 Posted April 12 8 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: I have done extensive research and talked to people about it irl and I'm still as confused as ever bc they all had a different story to tell. Why are you getting worked up over an incorrect term that could have very well been the "semi-established" one if the twitterheads had thought about it first? Well, because non-binary people are not a monolith. Are you confused that there isn't a 'standard' non-binary person? There won't be. People have different and complex relationships with their gender, some can be similar and form those categories, but the personal paths to get there will vary. Like, on some level, I may understand your confusion, but you either have to accept the diversity and the potential contradictions when it comes to being non-binary or, I don't know, keep believing what you believe. And I'm not really worked up over your made-up term, I just suspect that you have a flawed perception of what non-binary people are, and as a non-binary person myself, I will be vexed by that, yes. Also, I'm not sure if painting those terms as twitter or tumblr inventions is done in good faith on your part as some of them existed back in the 90s and have been included in research on non-binary people. 1 1
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dumbsparce Posted April 12 Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Suilen said: Well, because non-binary people are not a monolith. Are you confused that there isn't a 'standard' non-binary person? There won't be. People have different and complex relationships with their gender, some can be similar and form those categories, but the personal paths to get there will vary. Like, on some level, I may understand your confusion, but you either have to accept the diversity and the potential contradictions when it comes to being non-binary or, I don't know, keep believing what you believe. And I'm not really worked up over your made-up term, I just suspect that you have a flawed perception of what non-binary people are, and as a non-binary person myself, I will be vexed by that, yes. Also, I'm not sure if painting those terms as twitter or tumblr inventions is done in good faith on your part as some of them existed back in the 90s and have been included in research on non-binary people. I'm not on the other side of the pond. I support every individual's gender journey and freedom of expression. I have a thing with words though. They are there for a reason and are used to describe sth very specific. I can't accept that nonbinary as a term means something that could potentially still include male and/or female aka binary. A new term could solve this though.
Ash12345 Posted April 12 Author Posted April 12 17 hours ago, SoldierofLove said: Pengina How would this person describe this to their sexual partner? I have so many questions. Are they like, "So… I have a second hole…” or the partner is like "Why do you have a second hole?” I must not be understanding what I read because this is all kinds of confusing. Looks like she's asexual, so the sexual partner situation isn't something that would come up.
Ash12345 Posted April 13 Author Posted April 13 (edited) 23 hours ago, Sannie said: Wait, I have never heard of this surgery before. The result is having a ****** and a *****. Some people really can have it all. Sounds like they're Salmacian. https://salmacian.org/ https://www.reddit.com/r/salmacian Edited April 13 by Ash12345
SoldierofLove Posted April 13 Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Ash12345 said: Sounds like they're Salmacian. https://salmacian.org/ https://www.reddit.com/r/salmacian Oh wow, this is the first time I've heard of that term. Salmacian is an altersex identity defined by having a desire for a mixed genital set. It can also be referred to as "bigenital", with the most common presentation being a desire for both a ***** and a ******. Both Cis and Trans people can be Salmacian, all are welcome. I have so many questions.
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