GraceRandolph Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Michael Jackson's production company is attempting to stop Wade Robson and James Safechuck from unsealing the star's police records, as they believe they are trying to access images of Jackson's genitalia. Robson and Safechuck accused Jackson of molesting them as children, and are suing Jackson's corporations, alleging the staffers were responsible for knowingly turning a blind eye to the abuse, according to TMZ. As part of the lawsuit Jade subpoenaed the records from the Santa Barbara County District Attorney, the Los Angeles County District Attorney and the Los Angeles Police Department in 2024, but the court denied his request in 2018. The case has since been revived and permitted to move forward, through Robson and Safechuck's respective cases against Jackson's company, MJJ Productions, according to TMZ. Images of Jackson's naked body are part of the file. Jackson's company has pushed back on the request, and are attempting to legally block Robson and Safechuck from accessing the deeply personal information located within the file, They believe Jackson has a right to privacy, even in death, and do not feel the request to crack open this file and access nude photos is pertinent to their current complaints, according to TMZ. "Plaintiffs' attempt to obtain this sensitive, private, and irrelevant information over this Court's prior order to quash is particularly egregious,” Jackson's company said in the court documents, according to TMZ. While it is not implicitly stated, it appears Jackson's estate believes Robson and Safechuck may attempt to exploit Jackson by publicizing the nude images, and they want to take preventative measures to ensure that is not the case.
Tudors Posted April 4 Posted April 4 They must know Michael Jackson is a pedophile and trying to hide it and what's with the red lipstick 😂 he looks RIDICULOUS 8 5
JBJT2786 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 I want to know why would they need the nudes for the case? If it's necessary for the case wouldn't the court themselves unseal it to present as evidence during the case? Needing it beforehand seems fishy. Or maybe its bias cuz I've heard stories about Wade Robsons opportunitistic ass from friends in the entertainment business and find it hard that he's doing this for the right reasons. 5 1
Sheep Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) Michael Jackson was a very sick person who did terrible things to children who deserve FULL justice. That being said both plaintiffs here have been caught lying about MAJOR details in a way that completely contradicts real-life timelines(claiming crimes were committed in places that did not exist in any form until YEARS after they had contact with Jackson is the biggest example) and have shown a perpetual interest in using the press instead to put pressure on his estate, rather than letting legal proceedings play out on their own, these press escapades are how they've been caught lying multiple times. People might remember that there WAS a victim who was able to describe his genitals/pubic area(which looked very distinct due to vitiligo) in shocking detail with 100% accuracy, these photographs were used to previously verify those claims AFTER they were made, neither of these people are that victim. As far as I know neither of them have been able to replicate the accurate description without access to these photographs. There's a reason these requests have been repeatedly denied that isn't just legal corruption. Edited April 4 by Sheep 5
Sugar-Rush Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) To this day I'm still not quite sure why we're supposed to believe Wade? Didn't he previously state under oath in 2005 that MJ never molested him? Yet in 2013 he claimed that in fact MJ had molested him as a child? So he either lied in 2005 or he lied 2013, but in any case it's hard to trust someone who can't keep his story straight. Edited April 4 by Sugar-Rush 3 3 1
QueenBLadyG Posted April 4 Posted April 4 They're still wasting their time, energy, and money on this? Michael already lived a legendary life and has passed on to better pastures. 6 2 1 16
GraceRandolph Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 11 minutes ago, Sheep said: Michael Jackson was a very sick person who did terrible things to children who deserve FULL justice. That being said both plaintiffs here have been caught lying about MAJOR details in a way that completely contradicts real-life timelines(claiming crimes were committed in places that did not exist in any form until YEARS after they had contact with Jackson is the biggest example) and have shown a perpetual interest in using the press instead to put pressure on his estate, rather than letting legal proceedings play out on their own, these press escapades are how they've been caught lying multiple times. People might remember that there WAS a victim who was able to describe his genitals/pubic area(which looked very distinct due to vitiligo) in shocking detail with 100% accuracy, these photographs were used to previously verify those claims AFTER they were made, neither of these people are that victim. As far as I know neither of them have been able to replicate the accurate description without access to these photographs. There's a reason these requests have been repeatedly denied that isn't just legal corruption. I don't think either of their stories contain any major inconsistencies. The only alleged inconsistency the MJ stans were able to come up with in regards to Safechuck's story involves a train station which could've easily been an innocuous mix up, and their stories have been corroborated by many other details which MJ stans ignore. 2 1 1
GraceRandolph Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 6 minutes ago, Sugar-Rush said: To this day I'm still not quite sure why we're supposed to believe Wade? Didn't he previously state under oath in 2005 that MJ never molested him? Yet in 2013 he claimed that in fact MJ had molested him as a child? So he either lied in 2005 or he lied 2013, but in any case it's hard to trust someone who can't keep his story straight. Wasn't Wade only 20 in 2005? Not sure why people act like it's uncommon for molestation victims to not come forward until they are older, especially when the perpetrator is more powerful. 2 4
Gov Hooka Posted April 4 Posted April 4 8 minutes ago, QueenBLadyG said: They're still wasting their time, energy, and money on this? Michael already lived a legendary life and has passed on to better pastures. Cute that you believe that. He's likely burning in hell for what he did to several children. 11 1 1 3
QueenBLadyG Posted April 4 Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said: Cute that you believe that. He's likely burning in hell for what he did to several children. Please, he's performing for God with Whitney and Prince 5 1 12
Sheep Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: I don't think either of their stories contain any major inconsistencies. The only alleged inconsistency the MJ stans were able to come up with in regards to Safechuck's story involves a train station which could've easily been an innocuous mix up, and their stories have been corroborated by many other details which MJ stans ignore. Robson either lied about being molested or not molested too, I'm not making a judgement on which one is the lie there because either could be true, I personally lean on the side of believing victims, especially when we're discussing somebody's who been proven definitively guilty before, but it's speculative. A train station is not a normal architectural feature or something you see everyday(or that they saw ever in person) so I don't think it's something you could get easily mixed up. I think it was an obviously sensationalized attempt to portray and reinforce the undisputedly factual themes of Michael's faux-innocence and celebrity glitz being underpinned by a horrific dark side that have been exposed by previous legal proceedings. Since these two have got together there has been many such instances(including this one) of undercutting the legal system and going straight for public outrage. Edited April 4 by Sheep
Sugar-Rush Posted April 4 Posted April 4 9 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Wasn't Wade only 20 in 2005? Not sure why people act like it's uncommon for molestation victims to not come forward until they are older, especially when the perpetrator is more powerful. I love how you don't address the fact that - if we believe his 2013 claims - he admitted to lying under oath. I've heard many excuses from folks who claim that Wade Robson's trauma affected his ability to give an accurate testimony ~20 years ago, but even if that's what y'all want to believe, it wouldn't change the fact the he's already painted himself as untrustworthy for giving a false testimony in court. I don't know much about Safechuck either way, so I can at least give him the benefit of the doubt, but not Robson.
GraceRandolph Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, Sugar-Rush said: I love how you don't address the fact that - if we believe his 2013 claims - he admitted to lying under oath. I've heard many excuses from folks who claim that Wade Robson's trauma affected his ability to give an accurate testimony ~20 years ago, but even if that's what y'all want to believe, it wouldn't change the fact the he's already painted himself as untrustworthy for giving a false testimony in court. I don't know much about Safechuck either way, so I can at least give him the benefit of the doubt, but not Robson. Yes, we all know he lied under oath. He was either lying in 2005 or he is lying now. Not sure how this makes MJ look innocent. 3
Maybe Posted April 4 Posted April 4 24 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said: Cute that you believe that. He's likely burning in hell for what he did to several children. His stans will burn in hell along with him 10 1 3
Burn Posted April 4 Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Maybe said: His stans will burn in hell along with him your fave appears to be a fan so will she burn in hell too? 1 2 2
GraceRandolph Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 23 minutes ago, Sheep said: Robson either lied about being molested or not molested too, I'm not making a judgement on which one is the lie there because either could be true, I personally lean on the side of believing victims, especially when we're discussing somebody's who been proven definitively guilty before, but it's speculative. A train station is not a normal architectural feature or something you see everyday(or that they saw ever in person) so I don't think it's something you could get easily mixed up. I think it was an obviously sensationalized attempt to portray and reinforce the undisputedly factual themes of Michael's faux-innocence and celebrity glitz being underpinned by a horrific dark side that have been exposed by previous legal proceedings. Since these two have got together there has been many such instances(including this one) of undercutting the legal system and going straight for public outrage. Nothing at Neverland was a normal architectural feature though? Weird argument.
Mtjjproducer Posted April 4 Posted April 4 40 minutes ago, QueenBLadyG said: They're still wasting their time, energy, and money on this? Michael already lived a legendary life and has passed on to better pastures. I think his pastures he's in right now are hot with flames
Sheep Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Nothing at Neverland was a normal architectural feature though? Weird argument. Knowing that there was a train station at some point there because it was an extremely publicized place and deciding to tell documentarians that it happened there because it's extra disturbing is an infinitely more likely story than sincerely hallucinating a train station that didn't exist imo. It's not like you'd get a train station mixed up with something else. Edited April 4 by Sheep
QueenBLadyG Posted April 4 Posted April 4 7 minutes ago, Mtjjproducer said: I think his pastures he's in right now are hot with flames He probably loves BBQs!
thequeenofpopmadonna Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Still disgusting. The estate is sickening too Pathetic in hell 2
GraceRandolph Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 18 minutes ago, Sheep said: Knowing that there was a train station at some point there because it was an extremely publicized place and deciding to tell documentarians that it happened there because it's extra disturbing is an infinitely more likely story than sincerely hallucinating a train station that didn't exist imo. It's not like you'd get a train station mixed up with something else. A train station was built in 1993. Pretty sure Safechuck was still in contact with MJ at this point. Not sure why this matters much to the larger picture of MJ sleeping in the same bed with minors for hundreds of nights (admitted to by his own attorneys) and paying out millions to Jordan Chandler.
Sheep Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: A train station was built in 1993. Pretty sure Safechuck was still in contact with MJ at this point. Not sure why this matters much to the larger picture of MJ sleeping in the same bed with minors for hundreds of nights (admitted to by his own attorneys) and paying out millions to Jordan Chandler. The timing of trying to unseal this for the 3rd time after previous attempts in 2013 and 2018(which also had interesting timing) coinciding with a biopic being in production and a musical being in the middle of a US tour/debuting in London makes intentions very transparent. Sensationalized media reporting has everything to do with the specific topic of this thread. A second or even third court testimony involving those photographs after they're out into public record wouldn't exactly be a smoking gun for dispensing justice. Describing a photograph you have open access to is about as relevant as describing a widely photographed train station. It's easy for unbiased eyes to see they're pressing hard for an enormous settlement and repeatedly twisting the estates arms for it instead of letting due process take care of the supposedly complacent staff they're pursuing. The best way to accomplish the end of humiliating his estate would be letting a guilty verdict come to pass. Edited April 5 by Sheep 2
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 hours ago, QueenBLadyG said: They're still wasting their time, energy, and money on this? Michael already lived a legendary life and has passed on to better pastures. "Lived a legendary life" uhhh yeah that's why he was super unhappy, depressed, traumatized, and a child rapist, with no moment of peace. that sounds so legendary to me 3 1
Tudors Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 hours ago, QueenBLadyG said: He probably loves BBQs! This wasn't even funny
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