LadyDiana Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Great, let us all vote Trump and start nuclear war, and DON'T @ ME! 2 1 9
Popular Post Communion Posted April 2 Popular Post Posted April 2 It seems odd to mock how out of touch the GOP is with voters over a abortion while ignoring how Drns seem intent on making themselves completely unaligned with their own voters over genocide. 15
IBeMe Posted April 2 Posted April 2 The US REALLY needs a third party....it's insane. Dems are just a tad bit more vanilla compared to Republicans...there is truly no REAL left wing group despite the fact that a solid chunk of the dem voter block is clearly more left wing in political views. There's also a strong contingent of libertarians within the republican group that would surprisingly more so align with left wingers on certain things. A great example would be "Risings audience (a popular news youtube channel). It's basically a mixture of "far left" people and libertarians and it's not a niche thing tbh.... A third party comprising of similar demos would eat away at both the dem and republican party (which could be a bad or good thing) but it would at least apply some pressure on either party to change a little. 4
Cheers Posted April 2 Posted April 2 We're in desperate need of a thriving third party. Like, yea, Biden is awful. But what are our options… we are so fawked. 1
Princess Aurora Posted April 2 Posted April 2 7 minutes ago, IBeMe said: The US REALLY needs a third party....it's insane. Dems are just a tad bit more vanilla compared to Republicans...there is truly no REAL left wing group despite the fact that a solid chunk of the dem voter block is clearly more left wing in political views. There's also a strong contingent of libertarians within the republican group that would surprisingly more so align with left wingers on certain things. A great example would be "Risings audience (a popular news youtube channel). It's basically a mixture of "far left" people and libertarians and it's not a niche thing tbh.... A third party comprising of similar demos would eat away at both the dem and republican party (which could be a bad or good thing) but it would at least apply some pressure on either party to change a little. Unless it's a good third party. It shouldn't be a problem 1
GraceRandolph Posted April 2 Author Posted April 2 23 minutes ago, beautiful player said: Ok. They can take their vote elsewhere! 4 1 4 1
byzantium Posted April 2 Posted April 2 My home state! Biden is fundamentally fumbling in the states he desperately needs to win. 2 1
Kitty Kat Posted April 2 Posted April 2 How is this a valid poll if there were only 322 respondents? 1
If U Seek Amy Posted April 2 Posted April 2 "Data was collected from March 23-25, 2024. The sample consisted of n=322 registered Wisconsin voters who had voted in at least one primary since 2016, with a margin of error of +/- 5.0%. Within the sample, we included all those who said they would vote in the Democratic primary (n=258) and undecided voters (n=64)" Ah yes, a poll with a sample size of 322 voters from a biased source towards Palestine support is indicative of how Wisconsin's roughly 3.5 million voters will vote! 2 4
Communion Posted April 2 Posted April 2 13 minutes ago, Kitty Kat said: How is this a valid poll if there were only 322 respondents? 9 minutes ago, If U Seek Amy said: "Data was collected from March 23-25, 2024. The sample consisted of n=322 registered Wisconsin voters who had voted in at least one primary since 2016, with a margin of error of +/- 5.0%. Within the sample, we included all those who said they would vote in the Democratic primary (n=258) and undecided voters (n=64)" Ah yes, a poll with a sample size of 322 voters from a biased source towards Palestine support is indicative of how Wisconsin's roughly 3.5 million voters will vote! Yall.....please. it's fine to be skeptical but the 2nd post quoted shows that someone desperate to unskew or disprove polls can't actually read polls. 1
If U Seek Amy Posted April 2 Posted April 2 18 minutes ago, Communion said: Yall.....please. it's fine to be skeptical but the 2nd post quoted shows that someone desperate to unskew or disprove polls can't actually read polls. Many people have had their eyes on election polls recently. These polls typically report percentages supporting each candidate, alongside a "margin of error." What does this number mean? If you read the fine print, you'll sometimes see that this margin of error is a "95% confidence interval." Although this makes it sound like the election result should fall between these bounds 95% of the time, this interpretation is wrong.1 Multiple Sources of Error Polls may be off for several reasons: People may lie, or change their minds. Systematic errors due to a biased sample. Random errors due to a small sample. The reported margin of error addresses only the third concern. It tells you how much the findings might change if you re-ran the poll using the same methodology. It does not tell you whether your poll is capturing a representative sample of voters. In practice, survey respondents are never perfectly representative of the voting population: they tend to be older, whiter, and more educated. Pollsters tweak their survey methodology to try to minimize this bias, but will never eliminate it. For this reason, every reputable pollster reports a weighted average of responses. If you know that African Americans will make up 10% of the electorate but are only 6% of your poll respondents, then you can think of each African American respondent as speaking for 10/6 = 1.66 voters, and overweight their answers accordingly. 1
Communion Posted April 2 Posted April 2 1 hour ago, If U Seek Amy said: Many people have had their eyes on election polls recently. Maybe you need to have a better eye on what poll you're reading cause why would "the total number of voters in Wisconsin" be the relevant metric to determine accurate sample size for a poll that doesn't measure the potential 2024 electorate in Wisconsin but the registered Democratic voter likelihood to turn out for Biden? The number you're trying to contextualize the sample for is not 3.5m but closer to 800k. What sample size have you felt comfortable in other Democratic primary polls out of Wisconsin in the past 8 years? Please feel free to link examples.
BrandNewBrandon Posted April 2 Posted April 2 (edited) 5 hours ago, Taylena said: Trump landslide win incoming! Why doesn't it surprise me that Debbie Downvoter would cackle because of that Edited April 2 by BrandNewBrandon 1
Taylena Posted April 3 Posted April 3 48 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: Why doesn't it surprise me that Debbie Downvoter would cackle because of that Why doesn't surprise me that you would support genocide Joe?
BrandNewBrandon Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Taylena said: Why doesn't surprise me that you would support genocide Joe? I don't support him You are, however, supporting a racist ignorant transphobic homophobic person like Trump. 3
Cloröx Posted April 3 Posted April 3 9 hours ago, LadyDiana said: Great, let us all vote Trump and start nuclear war, and DON'T @ ME! This argument would have worked in 2020 but Biden admin have proven they are no better than Trump. People should start voting the third parties, the result may not be significant but it will be a great start to send message to those voters out there that they should no longer stuck in two options mindset. I've seen multiple countries with three or more parties to the point people don't have to use lesser two evils card to guilt trip voters. 1
LadyDiana Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Cloröx said: This argument would have worked in 2020 but Biden admin have proven they are no better than Trump. People should start voting the third parties, the result may not be significant but it will be a great start to send message to those voters out there that they should no longer stuck in two options mindset. I've seen multiple countries with three or more parties to the point people don't have to use lesser two evils card to guilt trip voters. If Trump wins, there will be no three party system or any democracy left in the usa till 2028, it's all done. Fundamentally I agree with you, dems are ****, they did nothing to bring other, better, candidates up to challenge joe, it's beyond TRAGIC that he, and donald, are the best these two parties has to offer. I don't know how american society can move forward and if it really can. Can democracy in the states evolve like it did, in a way, in Europe over last 50 years?! To Hamas girls I only have to say that you'll only have yourself to blame if Donald wins. BOOKMARK ME! 2 2
Cloröx Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, LadyDiana said: If Trump wins, there will be no three party system or any democracy left in the usa till 2028, it's all done. Fundamentally I agree with you, dems are ****, they did nothing to bring other, better, candidates up to challenge joe, it's beyond TRAGIC that he, and donald, are the best these two parties has to offer. I don't know how american society can move forward and if it really can. Can democracy in the states evolve like it did, in a way, in Europe over last 50 years?! To Hamas girls I only have to say that you'll only have yourself to blame if Donald wins. BOOKMARK ME! Not sure what Zionist Dem supporters try to achieve here, most Palestine supporters have already accepted the reality that both parties will always support Israel in committing genocide. They will vote for third options if available or boycott the election. Why would they blame themselves in case Trump winning if voting Democrat gives the same result? They used to have faith/believe that Biden will bring change but all they got is pure frustration. Don't have to bookmark you, they are fully aware of their decision. The only people who needs to prepare themselves is those Biden cultists like @GhostBox who are still in denial lol 2 1
LadyDiana Posted April 3 Posted April 3 10 minutes ago, Cloröx said: Not sure what Zionist Dem supporters try to achieve here, most Palestine supporters have already accepted the reality that both parties will always support Israel in committing genocide. They will vote for third options if available or boycott the election. Why would they blame themselves in case Trump winning if voting Democrat gives the same result? They used to have faith/believe that Biden will bring change but all they got is pure frustration. Don't have to bookmark you, they are fully aware of their decision. The only people who needs to prepare themselves is those Biden cultists like @GhostBox who are still in denial lol Ok, I see your point, disagree with you, but I do understand you. I wish you guys, lots of streinght and luck. Hope you'll achieve what you are aiming for
Sannie Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Come on, leftists. You have got to do better than this. This was a push poll. Quote Push polling is a negative campaigning technique, typically conducted by telephone, used to influence voters by asking specific questions about an issue or a candidate. Under the guise of an objective opinion poll, loaded questions are posed to mislead or bias the listener against an opposing candidate or political party.
GraceRandolph Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 28 minutes ago, Sannie said: Come on, leftists. You have got to do better than this. This was a push poll.
Communion Posted April 4 Posted April 4 49 minutes ago, Sannie said: Come on, leftists. You have got to do better than this. This was a push poll. "A push poll is anything I dislike" ...this is not what a push poll is. 2
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