celeb news 'Cowboy Carter' CDs and vinyls are missing tracks, fans asking for refunds

[Sergi91]

3 hours ago, punisher said:

she definitely changed the concept of the album after the vinyls were done

like it's clear the vinyl had the OG cover, tracklist and title (BEYINCE) and since they were already made she wasn't gonna let them rot in a shed

 

its only missing like 4 tracks so it's not that big of a deal

 

2 hours ago, Alex said:

the vinyl community is PISSED.

 

 

honestly, Beyoncé is like the last artist I would think let something like this happen

 

2 hours ago, period sis said:

From my understanding, she had the Act ii: Beyince album concept already completed and handed off for production. That probably took like maybe 2-4 months to produce, and in that time Bey did a complete 180 and wanted to change things up - including the album title, cover, and adding more songs. So they couldn't do much regarding the album that was already being produced, and instead of having them rot, they still released them. 

She could have done what Travis Scott did with his latest album. The first vinyl pressings did not included songs that were in the digital version and the vinyl was then sold with a discount. 

[tellem]

That vinyl having no mention of Cowboy Carter, no tracklist, and missing tracks.  A mess.

 

[getback]

and they said Nicki has no impact

[satellites.™]

This is why I dont do physicals in this age, digital everything.

 

I learned my lesson after the BMS la la la debacle.

[suneclipse121]

They probably were stuck in a bad situation. They had all these vinyls pressed with an incomplete album that they now need to get rid off. I mean if I were her I probably would've just eaten the cost and recycled them or disposed off them.

 

The other issue is that if she didn't put anything up for pre order then the first week would've been impacted even more. She had all these laying around so they took that risk knowing the backlash it would ensue. Maybe they should've gone the standard/deluxe route. Have the standard be the color variants with the alt cover/ title and the deluxe be a complete set w/standard cover, booklet and poster but in a standard black vinyl and have that up for pre-order for release at later date. 

 

But withholding this info is wrong imo. Sure you could argue these pressings could be rare but I think we just wanted the full album on vinyl rather than a possible rare vinyl later down the road.

[SinnerCity]

I believe the digital and streaming era has allowed the artists a great level of artistic flexibility and it's great they can change their mind at any given point before, during or after the album has been released.

 

I don't recall the last time I purchased music (physically or digitally) since I consume all my music via Spotify. Having said that, I understand physical items have become more of a collectors item rather than anything else but it's evident they didn't handle this release well. They should've either released a standard edition with the tracks originally submitted and then release a deluxe digital with physicals later on. 
 

It's really bad an artist like Bey's calibre is subject to this type of inexpert rollout. 

[Nefertiti0]

Fans speculate that Beyoncé initially met the deadline for CD and vinyl pressing. 
But what confuses this theory is that musicians who contributed to "II Most Wanted,” a duet with Miley Cyrus, said they were working on the song last month. One Nickel Creek member posted a story on Instagram that they were asked to play on the tune "a month or so ago,” putting the recording timeline somewhere in February. "II Most Wanted" appears on the vinyl in the same form as the digital version.

 

[attention]

3 hours ago, Janet said:

no one wants the current botched vinyl 

for now this current batch is marketed as a limited edition exclusive cover likely as damage control, it will appreciate with time as a collector's item due to the backstory of how the release was messy on the low, thus making it rare

 

[Elusive Chanteuse]

Vinyls are collectors items for the vast majority and hung up on walls. Does it really matter? 

[ANG3L]

4 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

Nobody's (rounding) main consumption of music is by physical albums these days 

It was a legit question and people are fuming and disliking my post. 

[Popboi.]

1 hour ago, suburbannature said:

The physicals having the old title on the spines and discs is pretty messy tbh

 

I do think a version of this album came before Rennie, but it was clearly finished recently.

The version pre-rennie is probably buried somewhere else, cause the vinyl does have MOST WANTED and there's no way Bey would've asked Miley for a collab before she signed with Columbia and released Flowers.

[queenoftheclouds]

Maybe Spaghetti and YaYa were outtakes that she put on Last Minute? Maybe she forgot what the actual Tracklist is?

[skwonderfactory]

Not the CDs too when the audio limit on one is 80 minutes and the album is 79 minutes

 

[Attitude]

She should've included a download code for the full album. That used to be the norm before vinyl became a thing again. 

 

9 minutes ago, attention said:

for now this current batch is marketed as a limited edition exclusive cover likely as damage control, it will appreciate with time as a collector's item due to the backstory of how the release was messy on the low, thus making it rare

 

It's not that limited/rare if there were 100k on her webstore and more hitting retailers in 2 weeks. 

 

 

 

[Dragonfly]

and I thought the mismatched vinyl for

Aurora's TheGodsWeCanTouch was messy

[cat1867]

7 minutes ago, Elusive Chanteuse said:

Vinyls are collectors items for the vast majority and hung up on walls. Does it really matter? 

Tracks missing doesn't matter that much by itself but it's basically missing all the features that would make $60 for a collectible worth it.

 

Due to the vinyl color being normal black instead of translucent black advertised. The name of the album being wrong. No art booklet. A qr code instead of a proper tracklist. No printed inner sleaves

[cat1867]

14 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said:

Fans speculate that Beyoncé initially met the deadline for CD and vinyl pressing. 
But what confuses this theory is that musicians who contributed to "II Most Wanted,” a duet with Miley Cyrus, said they were working on the song last month. One Nickel Creek member posted a story on Instagram that they were asked to play on the tune "a month or so ago,” putting the recording timeline somewhere in February. "II Most Wanted" appears on the vinyl in the same form as the digital version.

 

Vinyl backlog is no longer six months. They could have started production for first run in end of February or beginning of March before the track changes were made.

[simon]

This is just building demand for the digital version of the vinyl with the "Cowboy Carter" cover. Smart if you ask me. 

 

 

Edited March 31 by simon

[poki]

I really wanted a physical CD version but I want the full tracklist and the horse artwork :/

[40_L3VE]

BEYiNCE would have been the better album title tbh. Would have tied the "lore" of the album the same way Uncle Johnny tied into Renaissance.

Cowboy Carter could have been her new alter ego, the way Pvssy Pink was (allegedly?) her Renny one.

[ReH2o]

scam 

[FOCK]

PF2 is really the Cowboy Carter of rap: 
 

- Ships incomplete physicals

- Multiple vinyl versions

- Last minute song additions

- Blending of genres 

- 24+ tracks 

- No music videos

- Samples galore

- Breaking records 

 

Only big difference is Nicki wrote hers.

Queens. 
 

Edited March 31 by FOCK

[Movimento Perpétuo]

Parkwood better get their sh*t together, I stg.

 

 

[Worm]

4 hours ago, Popboi. said:

The packaging being barebones and not mentioning the tracklist anywhere (just including the QR) means they knew from the start it wasn't going to be the final version, just a rushed one. They even lie in the description about the printed inners and exclusive bonus track.

I find the QR tracklist thing baffling. Even if the album tracklist wasn't finalised, the songs that were about to be physically printed onto the vinyls obviously were... Why bother linking to a (future) digital tracklist that doesn't reflect the contents of the vinyl, instead of just including the tracklist for what's actually being printed? 

Did they think no one would bother playing the vinyls and notice the missing tracks? Did they think they could get away with it? That her fanbase is really that dumb?

 

Like it just boggles my mind that someone on her team sat down and must have thought "Oh no, if we print the tracklist on the vinyl then the fans will know this isn't the finalised version of the album. Quick, let's put it behind a QR code so no one can tell," as if the actual music being missing/different is just a secondary concern

[Chris]

So this is the new mess with her album rollout?

 

I expected a writing credits mess.

 

This is boring.