DTF Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Cowboy Carter has been released to high anticipation with her Jolene cover however many diehard Beyoncé fans have noticed her songwriting on Jolene misses the vision of the original Why do you think her verse is not being well received by the hive? 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BnPac Posted March 30 Popular Post Share Posted March 30 (edited) She didn't miss it. She just didn't want to do it like that. The lyrics are completely different, it's not a cover. Singing a song adoring the woman and the proceeding to kill her in the following track make zero sense. If they want Dolly's Jolene, it's available on all streaming platforms. There's also a beautiful cover done by Miley on YouTube. Edited March 30 by BnPac 38 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BnPac Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 And "writing songs about how her husband sucks"!? Have those people even listen to her biography? It's literally the contrary sentiment in her whole discography. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleStarmen Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Bey's worm feels likea parody. The chorus melody has a vulnerable/begging quality that is lost 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyManInTheWorld Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Yes, her version is unlistenable. 12 3 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needs Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Her version sucks tbh. I'm sticking with the original. 18 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanjm Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Changing the meaning behind the song is completely fine with me, she has her own experiences and story to tell. That said, the writing is pretty bad and it just doesn't flow well with the melody imo. I'll stick to enjoying the rest of the songs on the album 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post flower moon Posted March 30 Popular Post Share Posted March 30 not irregardless 2 1 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrettyHurts Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 obviously she wasn't aiming to be faithful to the original....hence her changing most of the lyrics.. i was never a huge fan of the original so i'm not bothered by her doing something different with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROPICUM Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 uhm what? yes dolly's jolene was about the powerlessness of a woman seeing another take her man away from her and beyoncé's version is about a woman warning another to not try it that's... what a 'reimagined' version of a song means... it's the same story, but through beyoncé's eyes and the way she would've handled it... literally the definition of a 're-imagination' the point of jolene (the song) is in the singer's point of view 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevate Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 It's fine to not enjoy it and to offer critiques of it, but no, Beyonce didn't miss the point. She offered up her own interpretation in the same way Ari did with The Boy Is Mine. The way the tweets are phrased (esp the first one, miss irregardless) implies a very annoying victimhood over a SONG. They can relax a bit. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-esper Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 The song is meant as an own interpretation rather than a cover. That is part of art. There are various examples of people doing this in music. One of the most recent examples may be Miley's Flowers' where she used Bruno Mars' song as reference and worked from her own point of view to use it as an answer to the topics talked into that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I had no clue Jolene was seen as a queer anthem until my lesbian friend messaged me about how much she hated Bey's version I guess for that crowd it's a doozie Personally I'm not the biggest fan of the new lyrics, they're kinda tired to me, but it's still a nice rendition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrettyHurts Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Just now, elevate said: It's fine to not enjoy it and to offer critiques of it, but no, Beyonce didn't miss the point. She offered up her own interpretation in the same way Ari did with The Boy Is Mine. The way the tweets are phrased (esp the first one, miss irregardless) implies a very annoying victimhood over a SONG. They can relax a bit. i feel like they're trying to make the original sound more feminist than it was not everything is about female unity and empowerment. i like that beyoncé took a stronger bitter woman approach to it, a lot of women feel that way 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillz Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I feel like Beyonce's was an honest take on that song, even though no one but her ugly (soon to be P. Diddied) husband should be blamed for any infidelity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbannature Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 She obviously knew what she was doing in flipping the script of the sng. Beyoncé clearly has rich musical knowledge and I'm tired of people bastardizing her work to its simplest form as if that's all she's capable of understanding. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Weld_E Posted March 30 Popular Post Share Posted March 30 No, someone had to finally put a stop to that hoe! 1 1 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakult Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 The original is....still there? Beyoncé didn't need to do version that is faithful to Dolly's rendition. I didn't expect B's version to have new verses etc.....it's almost a continuation that references Dolly's recording & Lemonade. Very meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipsed Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I love CC though I don't like her version of Jolene that being said she can interpret the song however she likes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 11 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said: obviously she wasn't aiming to be faithful to the original....hence her changing most of the lyrics.. i was never a huge fan of the original so i'm not bothered by her doing something different with it 11 minutes ago, TROPICUM said: uhm what? yes dolly's jolene was about the powerlessness of a woman seeing another take her man away from her and beyoncé's version is about a woman warning another to not try it that's... what a 'reimagined' version of a song means... it's the same story, but through beyoncé's eyes and the way she would've handled it... literally the definition of a 're-imagination' the point of jolene (the song) is in the singer's point of view 7 minutes ago, J-esper said: The song is meant as an own interpretation rather than a cover. That is part of art. There are various examples of people doing this in music. One of the most recent examples may be Miley's Flowers' where she used Bruno Mars' song as reference and worked from her own point of view to use it as an answer to the topics talked into that. 3 minutes ago, suburbannature said: She obviously knew what she was doing in flipping the script of the sng. Beyoncé clearly has rich musical knowledge and I'm tired of people bastardizing her work to its simplest form as if that's all she's capable of understanding. 1 minute ago, Yakult said: The original is....still there? Beyoncé didn't need to do version that is faithful to Dolly's rendition. I didn't expect B's version to have new verses etc.....it's almost a continuation that references Dolly's recording & Lemonade. Very meta. They GET that Beyonce is doing a new version. DUH! They just think her version sucks and is a reductive take on the complex original. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbannature Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: They GET that Beyonce is doing a new version. DUH! They just think her version sucks and is a reductive take on the complex original. well they should go stream Dolly's version and leave us alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristie Kuwa Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I think u missed the point that Bey took the song and made it HER own 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said: I think u missed the point that Bey took the song and made it HER own And that means everyone has to like HER version? Edited March 30 by GraceRandolph 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dreajae Posted March 30 Popular Post Share Posted March 30 A straight married woman in 2024 isn't begging another woman not to take her man. A straight cover would not have gone well for Beyonce and I truly believe people want that woman clowned. I find the discourse fascinating cause the GP spent the last year being so outraged over Ariana appearing to "win" as the other woman. Why can't Bey approach a very valid situation more realistically? Is it because she's seen as succesful/beautiful enough and they don't like her husband already? Well she dedicated an album to punishing him and he said she was leaving and he had to go to therapy to save his family. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristie Kuwa Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said: And that means everyone has to like HER version? No obviously. Music does never have to be liked by everybody. What in the sheep herd mentality? If u like Dollys approach more, her version is right there. If you like Beys, its now also there. Go streams the #3 song on US AM right now Edited March 30 by Kristie Kuwa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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