JO1s Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Just for minors not only for trans minors. Even beyond the transphobia this is problematic since it's also to stop puberty for cis children who are going through it too early. 9
Suilen Posted March 24 Posted March 24 (edited) The terf island terfing, what's new. At least they failed to ban them in private clinics for now. Edited March 24 by Suilen 3
Onyxmage Posted March 24 Posted March 24 This will definitely help everyone suffering from the effects of Brexit. 1
J Legend X Posted March 24 Posted March 24 well, I mean... is not like the NHS can afford anything else than paracetamol tbh 8
Démodé Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Of course, the TERF island. And however you might not believe or dismiss it laughingly, that's also the impact by high profile terf-spitting celebs like JK. They're dangerous. 3
Red Velvet Posted March 24 Posted March 24 (edited) I read that there was lack of evidence in these blockers and the long term effects could be harmful, especially its congnitive effects. If there's scientific reasoning behind it then i can see why they would. Edited March 24 by Red Velvet 2
Démodé Posted March 24 Posted March 24 19 minutes ago, Red Velvet said: I read that there was lack of evidence in these blockers and the long term effects could be harmful, especially its congnitive effects. If there's scientific reasoning behind it then i can see why they would. That's kind of misinformation, not from you ofc. But puberty blockers are being used on cisgender teenages for decades now, without particular long term effects (to the extent of justifying banning them). The rest is just anti-LGBTQ+ propaganda. 2
Grizzo Posted March 24 Posted March 24 disgusting news JK Rowling and Roisin Murphy must be celebrating about this 1
St. Charles Posted March 24 Posted March 24 1 hour ago, Grizzo said: disgusting news JK Rowling and Roisin Murphy must be celebrating about this Is roisin transphobic? Nooo I just found her music and liked Sow Into You but this kinda ruins it
Communion Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Quote There are fewer than 100 children on puberty blockers This is what concerns the politicians of a government where most people are becoming poor, food insecure, and who just spent the winter freezing. 1
visions Posted March 24 Posted March 24 (edited) Quote a decision junior health minister Maria Caulfield said would "ensure care is based on evidence, expert clinical opinion" that is "in the best interests of the child.” I'd love to see her expand on this in any meaningful way, because what? Edit: Of course she's a scum Tory This whole country is doomed and culture wars are a distraction for the absolute FAILURE of tory governments. Edited March 24 by visions 1
SinnerCity Posted March 24 Posted March 24 I am so embarrassed by this. It just sucks to live in the U.K. right now
robattack332 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 5 hours ago, Red Velvet said: I read that there was lack of evidence in these blockers and the long term effects could be harmful, especially its congnitive effects. If there's scientific reasoning behind it then i can see why they would. This is exactly the issue. Anecdotally, there are people who have had success, but also many horror stories, and we don't have nearly enough data to know how/why to administer puberty blockers in a way that is not damaging. People on both sides will point to correlative studies to "prove" there point, but there is not substantive research that gives us the answers we need yet. It takes a long time to properly perform these studies. 1 1
Communion Posted March 24 Posted March 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, robattack332 said: This is exactly the issue. Anecdotally, there are people who have had success, but also many horror stories Studies show that something like 97% of those who begin hormone replacement therapy continue to identify as trans for the rest of their life and this has been the case now for 3 decades worth of studies following this sector of medicine. It is quite literally statistically impossible to consider those who regret transition as "many". Edited March 24 by Communion 1
Horizon Flame Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 6 hours ago, Démodé said: That's kind of misinformation, not from you ofc. But puberty blockers are being used on cisgender teenages for decades now, without particular long term effects (to the extent of justifying banning them). The rest is just anti-LGBTQ+ propaganda. Sweden also put the brakes on puberty blockers a year ago. Apparently the studies were pretty damning.
Communion Posted March 24 Posted March 24 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said: Sweden also put the brakes on puberty blockers a year ago. Apparently the studies were pretty damning. You mean the same Sweden who at the same time voted into power far-right parties? Some of you just need to admit you want to kill trans people and be done with it. Edited March 24 by Communion
robattack332 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 10 hours ago, Communion said: Studies show that something like 97% of those who begin hormone replacement therapy continue to identify as trans for the rest of their life and this has been the case now for 3 decades worth of studies following this sector of medicine. It is quite literally statistically impossible to consider those who regret transition as "many". Correct...those studies are conducted on people who transitioned when it was much much less available/accepted - it is extremely common for more issues to arise when a much larger group is exposed to something (that's research 101). That study also doesn't include physical complications people go through. Never said it was wrong, we just don't have substantial data on it as far as the big picture today. This is a prime example of the correlative analyses that have no scientific application.
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