Post Malone Posted May 8 Posted May 8 (edited) That user trying to refute HDD must be a certain girlie's stan who's unhappy with their recent prediction about her new album. Edited May 8 by Post Malone 2
duadududt Posted May 8 Posted May 8 I really didn't like luv it and I still don't like it but this new preview sounds better, I pretty much liked every snippet I've heard minus luv it so I'm still excited for this album
rickycabello123 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 My oh My was not scrapped and added back.. it was last minute addons, replaced the original track 4 Anyone.. was not at physical, on streaming 1
Cbreezy Posted May 8 Posted May 8 8 hours ago, Bentley said: That damn drake single better be coming, this is no one's fault but his own and I hope he's legally obligated to release it through Interscope i know the album isn't gonna be huge but we at least want a cute hit single umg better not allow him to do this and she's out their liking his diss tracks on instagram like her career is some sort of game. Ridiculous He's literally UMG's biggest artist and undoubtedly has a lot of autonomy. If he wants to pull his planned involvement in actively pushing the song because of external factors, he most likely has free reign to. Similarly, if UMG want to protect his image by having him lay low until his big comeback (in his own lane), then you can see why they too would be incentivized to hold fire on going all out with the Camila collab. Or worst still, just flat out not pushing it. The reality here is that Camila is not a Rihanna or Beyonce, for whom a collab of said scale would be exactly what Drake almost needs (something major outside of his lane to palette cleanse what's happening). The benefit here is exclusively Camila's. And, as a mid-tier Pop girl at best, there's no overt commercial incentive to obligate Drake to anything. Never say never, though. Like few others have said, the GP are fickle and in this era move on relatively quickly. So, maybe if they hold the Drake collab to arrive "with" the album (which is effectively end of June into July) maybe the beef ish will have blown over enough to not "look" like his first musical move after the drama. Also, maybe the song is "that" good that it'll do the heavy lifting for itself.
Cbreezy Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Sidebar and this isn't meant as shade/hate: It's wild that Camila literally changed labels (to one of the biggest) and STILL isn't really...happening. I followed 5H, but I'm pretty indifferent towards her. I just find her trajectory almost fascinating. She has #1 songs, but they sit somewhere between sounding like genuine hits (great) and being payola'd/spammed into ensuring they're hits (not so great). The proof for the latter is the total inability to organically build a sizeable audience despite her supposed hitmaking profile (see: canceled tour at a period more favorable than now). The albums always underperform and it looks like she's set for her fourth consecutive album to do so. It's almost as if there is a very expensive investment in her "potential" (probably based off being 5H leader and Havana), but try as they might, the public at large just aren't using her beyond the odd song here and there. And even then, not much of late. There's a very limited frame to be seen as a new/rising/on the cusp star before the public cement their view of an artist's potential and positioning. Few artists, besides maybe Rihanna or Ariana, "breakout" or elevate to MPG status with a fourth album (or after). Put simply, Camila really has her work cut out for her. I don't doubt she'll be around for a while, as the combination of her hustle and her management make that much seem like a given. But i really think it will moreso be as a host, talent show judge, and habitual actress, with music being sprinkled inbetween those pillars. None of which is "bad" but is definitely food for thought when considering who she was aggressively being lined up to be.
istersay Posted May 8 Posted May 8 it must be boosting her other music also streams increasing every week Spoiler "Camila" on Spotify – 06/05 (+1,081,497) = 3,982,709,900 total streams (+59,240) vs the day before The album had a great sunday this weekend so this is why it haven't a bigger gain on monday! "Romance" on Spotify – 06/05 (+1,802,123) = 5,065,464,360 total streams (+102,545) vs the day before "Familia" on Spotify – 06/05 (+567,365) = 1,613,667,718 total streams (+71,120) vs the day before Other Camila's Songs on Spotify – 06/05 (+1,313,056) = 5,849,604,909 total streams (+141,548) vs the day before (+88,848) vs last week 1
Bentley Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Yeah I give it up it ain't coming now hopefully they'll have something else out soon
The Prophecy Posted May 8 Posted May 8 42 minutes ago, Bentley said: Yeah I give it up it ain't coming now hopefully they'll have something else out soon
Nefertiti0 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 (edited) https://thefortyfive.com/interviews/camila-cabello-interview-2024/ Her fourth album pays homage to the American music she began hearing when she emigrated from Havana to the United States as a school-aged child; and specifically the aughts hip-hop she listened to in her pre-teen and early teen years, before she joined the music group that would make her a global star. That's the primary influence here — it's Cabello's most sample-heavy record to date and her most danceable — but she manages to reference classic tracks from the era and filter them through her sonic touchstones, from reggaeton beats to upbeat but still forlorn balladry. There are unexpected twists as wild as that on 'I Luv It,' making for a riveting listen. There are also some high-profile rap collaborators on the record — including some with Miami ties — and a subtle, if-you-know-you-know nod to Pitbull, whose music was ubiquitous on Miami's streets long before he gained international notoriety in the late-aughts. Edited May 8 by Nefertiti0 3 1
istersay Posted May 8 Posted May 8 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said: https://thefortyfive.com/interviews/camila-cabello-interview-2024/ Her fourth album pays homage to the American music she began hearing when she emigrated from Havana to the United States as a school-aged child; and specifically the aughts hip-hop she listened to in her pre-teen and early teen years, before she joined the music group that would make her a global star. That's the primary influence here — it's Cabello's most sample-heavy record to date and her most danceable — but she manages to reference classic tracks from the era and filter them through her sonic touchstones, from reggaeton beats to upbeat but still forlorn balladry. There are unexpected twists as wild as that on 'I Luv It,' making for a riveting listen. There are also some high-profile rap collaborators on the record — including some with Miami ties — and a subtle, if-you-know-you-know nod to Pitbull, whose music was ubiquitous on Miami's streets long before he gained international notoriety in the late-aughts. thanks! Edited May 8 by istersay
rickycabello123 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 3 hours ago, Cbreezy said: Sidebar and this isn't meant as shade/hate: It's wild that Camila literally changed labels (to one of the biggest) and STILL isn't really...happening. I followed 5H, but I'm pretty indifferent towards her. I just find her trajectory almost fascinating. She has #1 songs, but they sit somewhere between sounding like genuine hits (great) and being payola'd/spammed into ensuring they're hits (not so great). The proof for the latter is the total inability to organically build a sizeable audience despite her supposed hitmaking profile (see: canceled tour at a period more favorable than now). The albums always underperform and it looks like she's set for her fourth consecutive album to do so. It's almost as if there is a very expensive investment in her "potential" (probably based off being 5H leader and Havana), but try as they might, the public at large just aren't using her beyond the odd song here and there. And even then, not much of late. There's a very limited frame to be seen as a new/rising/on the cusp star before the public cement their view of an artist's potential and positioning. Few artists, besides maybe Rihanna or Ariana, "breakout" or elevate to MPG status with a fourth album (or after). Put simply, Camila really has her work cut out for her. I don't doubt she'll be around for a while, as the combination of her hustle and her management make that much seem like a given. But i really think it will moreso be as a host, talent show judge, and habitual actress, with music being sprinkled inbetween those pillars. None of which is "bad" but is definitely food for thought when considering who she was aggressively being lined up to be. i stopped reading after camila isnt really happening, girlie has diamond, can yall ex 5h stans just stop being jealous for once😂 1
Bentley Posted May 8 Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Nefertiti0 said: https://thefortyfive.com/interviews/camila-cabello-interview-2024/ Her fourth album pays homage to the American music she began hearing when she emigrated from Havana to the United States as a school-aged child; and specifically the aughts hip-hop she listened to in her pre-teen and early teen years, before she joined the music group that would make her a global star. That's the primary influence here — it's Cabello's most sample-heavy record to date and her most danceable — but she manages to reference classic tracks from the era and filter them through her sonic touchstones, from reggaeton beats to upbeat but still forlorn balladry. There are unexpected twists as wild as that on 'I Luv It,' making for a riveting listen. There are also some high-profile rap collaborators on the record — including some with Miami ties — and a subtle, if-you-know-you-know nod to Pitbull, whose music was ubiquitous on Miami's streets long before he gained international notoriety in the late-aughts. Anyone know when this was done? Hopefully that means Drake is still coming
Cbreezy Posted May 8 Posted May 8 46 minutes ago, rickycabello123 said: i stopped reading after camila isnt really happening, girlie has diamond, can yall ex 5h stans just stop being jealous for once😂 Be serious lol. I literally hold no ill will towards her. But while she may not be a nonentity, she isn't happening (yet) either when it comes to being a MPG. There's a clear disconnect when you nab intermittent Diamond singles, but can't sell an album at all. IMO, that's Jason Derulo territory. The odd hit here and there, but not an artist (enough) people take seriously in any other context. Camila and her team have work to do, because shifting to another label and only selling 20-30k again ain't the move. As of now, even the single/s aren't moving the needle. I never get a**-kissing fans. You'll be hyper-aware of all of the above, but be overly defensive when it's spelled out in front of you. 2 1
Nefertiti0 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 6 minutes ago, Bentley said: Anyone know when this was done? Hopefully that means Drake is still coming a week on from her guest appearance during Lana's Coachella set
The Prophecy Posted May 8 Posted May 8 4 hours ago, Cbreezy said: The proof for the latter is the total inability to organically build a sizeable audience despite her supposed hitmaking profile (see: canceled tour at a period more favorable than now). The albums always underperform and it looks like she's set for her fourth consecutive album to do so. It's almost as if there is a very expensive investment in her "potential" (probably based off being 5H leader and Havana), but try as they might, the public at large just aren't using her beyond the odd song here and there. And even then, not much of late. There's a very limited frame to be seen as a new/rising/on the cusp star before the public cement their view of an artist's potential and positioning. Few artists, besides maybe Rihanna or Ariana, "breakout" or elevate to MPG status with a fourth album (or after). Put simply, Camila really has her work cut out for her. I agree. A significant portion of Camila's core fanbase has been rather fickle and is not as supportive as they used to be. For instance, as soon as her releases stopped smashing, some of her initial fans, like @Bentley moved on. Camila really needs to work on building a more dedicated fanbase; otherwise, she might face the same fate as Dua Lipa is experiencing right now. If she really wants to elevate to MPG status, she needs to start putting in the work and be everywhere. Some of the choices made by her team and herself are a mess. She needs to decide whether she wants to be this indie, cookie-cutter girl or a pop star like Britney/Ariana.
vinicius Posted May 8 Posted May 8 4 hours ago, Cbreezy said: Sidebar and this isn't meant as shade/hate: It's wild that Camila literally changed labels (to one of the biggest) and STILL isn't really...happening. I followed 5H, but I'm pretty indifferent towards her. I just find her trajectory almost fascinating. She has #1 songs, but they sit somewhere between sounding like genuine hits (great) and being payola'd/spammed into ensuring they're hits (not so great). The proof for the latter is the total inability to organically build a sizeable audience despite her supposed hitmaking profile (see: canceled tour at a period more favorable than now). The albums always underperform and it looks like she's set for her fourth consecutive album to do so. It's almost as if there is a very expensive investment in her "potential" (probably based off being 5H leader and Havana), but try as they might, the public at large just aren't using her beyond the odd song here and there. And even then, not much of late. There's a very limited frame to be seen as a new/rising/on the cusp star before the public cement their view of an artist's potential and positioning. Few artists, besides maybe Rihanna or Ariana, "breakout" or elevate to MPG status with a fourth album (or after). Put simply, Camila really has her work cut out for her. I don't doubt she'll be around for a while, as the combination of her hustle and her management make that much seem like a given. But i really think it will moreso be as a host, talent show judge, and habitual actress, with music being sprinkled inbetween those pillars. None of which is "bad" but is definitely food for thought when considering who she was aggressively being lined up to be. I don't think she will be a host or talent show judge for a career. She might do something like that when she's not working on an album. I can see her exploring her acting career more, though. But music will always be her priority and focus. She always said that. I think with this album, it's safe to say that she no longer intents to be a mainstream type of artist. I don't know what her deal with Interscope is, but I don't see it as a huge investiment as you've said. If she wanted to, she wouldn't release a song like "I luv it". They wouldn't let her do it, if they wanted huge commercial success. They didn't even bother sending it to radio. I think she's trying to build a specific audience with this album to keep doing experimental and weird stuff in the next eras. A loyal fanbase is more important than reaching a mainstream big hit kind of audience. Not sure what they are going to do to give her that, though. 3
Bentley Posted May 8 Posted May 8 24 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said: a week on from her guest appearance during Lana's Coachella set Was drakes feud already started at that point. I know it's got worse recently but …
The Prophecy Posted May 8 Posted May 8 19 minutes ago, vinicius said: I think with this album, it's safe to say that she no longer intents to be a mainstream type of artist. Thoughts? @Bentley
rickycabello123 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 1 no-radio single made all these conversations, she will be fine once interscope send her next single to radios... she got one of the most impactful debut from a band, and i was talking about crying in the club and not even havana
Bentley Posted May 8 Posted May 8 3 minutes ago, rickycabello123 said: 1 no-radio single made all these conversations, she will be fine once interscope send her next single to radios... she got one of the most impactful debut from a band, and i was talking about crying in the club and not even havana Check your twitter dms I messaged you
Bentley Posted May 8 Posted May 8 She's still out here liking his Instagram post regarding the feud songs? it has to be coming still right?
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