vinicius Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Anyways, I can finally confirm that Chanel n. 5 is my favorite song of the album! 2
vinicius Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Did you guys see that "cxoxotour" ig account? I think it's suspicious, but at the same time, it can be fake 1
Matchatea Posted August 2 Posted August 2 I hope she is doing ok. She is in her Saturn return as well so the next few years maybe rough unfortunately 1
Matchatea Posted August 2 Posted August 2 4 minutes ago, vinicius said: This is all Shawn Mendes' fault. That man is a nightmare. HELP?!?! Ntm on the barefoot hippie….
ccfan007 Posted August 2 Posted August 2 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRo4pkPX/ oh she is wanting this to go viral huh 1 1
leonagwen Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 hour ago, vinicius said: This is all Shawn Mendes' fault. That man is a nightmare. I don't think that's the problem. I think she's finally realizing that the album and the supposed sure fired hit Hot Uptown both underperformed. It's not Camila's fault that Drake is at a low point in his career because of the Kendrick Lamar feud. I really feel that Camila is probably feeling down due to the lack of success of the album. The album and it's singles should have done much better but due to bad luck and bad management, the era was a big under performance.
luanziie Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) DCD only has 4k videos on tiktok, how could this be viral? is there another version of the song besides the original one? Edited August 2 by luanziie
ccfan007 Posted August 2 Posted August 2 28 minutes ago, luanziie said: DCD only has 4k videos on tiktok, how could this be viral? is there another version of the song other than the original one? It's not viral, yet, but they are trying.
HarleyWin Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, leonagwen said: I don't think that's the problem. I think she's finally realizing that the album and the supposed sure fired hit Hot Uptown both underperformed. It's not Camila's fault that Drake is at a low point in his career because of the Kendrick Lamar feud. I really feel that Camila is probably feeling down due to the lack of success of the album. The album and it's singles should have done much better but due to bad luck and bad management, the era was a big under performance. Sorry but Drake was clearly not the problem when ALL singles underperformed and it's time for people to stop pointing fingers at anyone except Camila and her team themselves. Drake is still the most streamed rapper every month and his next album will obviously still do numbers, so this excuse is getting very old and tired. The biggest consequence the feud probably had on her is the hate trains that started again because of her association with Drake (all the tumblr stuff resurfaced). Also, I think there would have been a stronger push for Hot Uptown and a music video if it hadn't happened. However, I still don't think the song would have smashed any more than it did because it sounds dated and Drake's hip hop audience is simply not going to check for Camila Cabello unless it's a rap song or R&B song. This entire era was cursed from the beginning since I Luv It got delayed. That should have already given everyone an idea of the mess that was going to continue for the entire rollout. It wasn't her collaborators' responsibility to make the album a success, it was her and her team's job and they failed. I don't doubt she is upset about the numbers, but I think it has more to do with the criticisms about the music itself and how people are confusing it for hyperpop and accusing her for "ripping off" xyz artists. Edited August 2 by HarleyWin 1
Pinter Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Please go back to Epic Mila, now that tyla is also isnt happening you Will be back to be their main priority. 2
leonagwen Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, HarleyWin said: Sorry but Drake was clearly not the problem when ALL singles underperformed and it's time for people to stop pointing fingers at anyone except Camila and her team themselves. Drake is still the most streamed rapper every month and his next album will obviously still do numbers, so this excuse is getting very old and tired. The biggest consequence the feud probably had on her is the hate trains that started again because of her association with Drake (all the tumblr stuff resurfaced). Also, I think there would have been a stronger push for Hot Uptown and a music video if it hadn't happened. However, I still don't think the song would have smashed any more than it did because it sounds dated and Drake's hip hop audience is simply not going to check for Camila Cabello unless it's a rap song or R&B song. This entire era was cursed from the beginning since I Luv It got delayed. That should have already given everyone an idea of the mess that was going to continue for the entire rollout. It wasn't her collaborators' responsibility to make the album a success, it was her and her team's job and they failed. I don't doubt she is upset about the numbers, but I think it has more to do with the criticisms about the music itself and how people are confusing it for hyperpop and accusing her for "ripping off" xyz artists. Another problem is that Charlie XCX bashed Camila on Twitter when I Luv It came out. I Luv It never got sent to radio and underperformed, the album only lasted 3 weeks on the Billboard charr. Charlie XCX new album has been in the top 20 for over 1 month and she has 2 songs on the Spotify Top 200. It's bad enough with the Drake Kendrick Lamar feud hurting Hot Uptowns performance but Kendrick having the #1 song on Billboard and Charlie XCX album being successful is like a slap in the face to Camila and Drake. Edited August 2 by leonagwen
Europe Posted August 2 Posted August 2 16 hours ago, HarleyWin said: Bigger flops than her continue releasing music after their album drops and do small tours even at theaters or clubs. I'm sorry but the "album flopped" isn't really an excuse. Something really bad must have happened in her personal life, professional, or both, for her to be acting like this... Her label probably had a stern talk with her about the album and it's performance after it left the charts in just 3 weeks. She needs to go back to the studio. 1 1
istersay Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 16 hours ago, vinicius said: This is all Shawn Mendes' fault. That man is a nightmare. it takes two, they need to stay apart, maybe even not be friends atp 10 hours ago, AbeHicks said: Her label probably had a stern talk with her about the album and it's performance after it left the charts in just 3 weeks. She needs to go back to the studio. then they should have done something to help with the whole album rollout, playlistings, radio from the get go etc. 12 hours ago, Pinter said: Please go back to Epic Mila, now that tyla is also isnt happening you Will be back to be their main priority. maybe they wouldn't have let her experiment, not sure why she left, but we wouldn't have had this album and I love it Edited August 2 by istersay 2
istersay Posted August 2 Posted August 2 6 hours ago, ccfan007 said: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRo4pkPX/ oh she is wanting this to go viral huh definitely highlighting it, can't wait to see her perform it again at the next festival, 22 days
TheFireLexus Posted August 2 Posted August 2 6 hours ago, leonagwen said: I don't think that's the problem. I think she's finally realizing that the album and the supposed sure fired hit Hot Uptown both underperformed. It's not Camila's fault that Drake is at a low point in his career because of the Kendrick Lamar feud. I really feel that Camila is probably feeling down due to the lack of success of the album. The album and it's singles should have done much better but due to bad luck and bad management, the era was a big under performance. She should never have hinged her album campaign on a song like Hot Uptown especially after launching a new image and sound with I Luv It. It actually makes no sense to try to establish a drastic change with I Luv It while planning to make a "safer" song the main focus. It makes even less sense to have teased I Luv It for SO LONG if they were always planning for Hot Uptown to be the main radio single. It was a silly plan from the beginning regardless of the Drake/Kendrick situation. 1
TheFireLexus Posted August 2 Posted August 2 4 hours ago, HarleyWin said: I don't doubt she is upset about the numbers, but I think it has more to do with the criticisms about the music itself and how people are confusing it for hyperpop and accusing her for "ripping off" xyz artists. She herself makes contradictory actions tbh. I don't think she was fully clear on her vision for the album. The subject matter wasn't new territory for her (mostly songs about relationships). And even the new sonic landscape was crowded with dated and/or irrelevant things that didn't contribute to it properly (Dream girls, Twentysomethings, and Hot Uptown are nothing new for her, Ugly is pointless and not even her own song, same goes for 305 and Koshi). A completely solo album building on the sound of I Luv It, Pink, Dade County, Pretty When I Cry, June Gloom, would have fared much better. Hone your vision, stick to it, and deliver it consistently over the whole year. 2
makeawish Posted August 2 Posted August 2 i can imagine her feeling like everything that could have gone wrong has done in this era. i feel for her cos it's a really fun and enjoyable album to listen to and a good - if slightly flawed - attempt at a bold reinvention. i think it's been undermined by the charli stuff and all the fuss about the collaborators - not just drake - but also, some of the response was completely out of her control. it's been clear from the start that she has a lot of haters who were always prepared to come for her and, while they've had a lot of wider stuff in this era to attach that to, maybe this kind of pivot always had to be a two album project at least. looking positively, i feel like the people who were prepared to listen to it on its own terms have taken notice of how good this era has been and i luv it has been a bit of a lowkey sleeper hit too, so imo there's definitely some foundations to build on from this (i think she has to keep moving into new musical territory now, there's surely no going back)
makeawish Posted August 2 Posted August 2 21 minutes ago, TheFireLexus said: And even the new sonic landscape was crowded with dated and/or irrelevant things that didn't contribute to it properly (Dream girls, Twentysomethings, and Hot Uptown are nothing new for her, Ugly is pointless and not even her own song, same goes for 305 and Koshi) see, i think DG, 20s and hot uptown are fine cos they're all good tunes, i like all the proper songs. but there's no dodging the fact that it does feel a bit unfocused, esp given the pre-release campaign pushing all the most curveball sounding stuff and then both the brevity of the album and the incoherent links (always have a guilty laugh at that guy getting his own link track cos camila's songs helped him get over his dog dying, i mean i feel bad for him but save it for the sleeve notes tbh) 1
leonagwen Posted August 2 Posted August 2 It also would have helped if she was in the Usa when the album was released and did some Usa promotion. She seemed to be in other countries rather than concentrating in the Usa. Why didn't she release a music video for Hot Uptown?
makeawish Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 26 minutes ago, leonagwen said: It also would have helped if she was in the Usa when the album was released and did some Usa promotion. She seemed to be in other countries rather than concentrating in the Usa. Why didn't she release a music video for Hot Uptown? it felt weird that she was here doing glastonbury when the album came out. the irony is that it didn't actually get that much of a push here anyway, she was on the radio doing interviews but they weren't really playing the songs a lot. i finally got around to her bit on the highlights yesterday and they clipped...bam bam and havana, actually VERY ANNOYING when she opened with such a great performance of 'i luv it' in the wolf costumes Edited August 2 by makeawish
rickycabello123 Posted August 2 Posted August 2 12 hours ago, ccfan007 said: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRo4pkPX/ oh she is wanting this to go viral huh Dade dance is so fun, she needs to post 1000 tiktoks like she did with my oh my
reymiu Posted August 2 Posted August 2 The thing is City Girls outshining Camila on DCD, that song feels more like City Girls' sound rather than Camila's too Even if DCD (or any song from this project) goes viral, it still doesn't feel like Camila's sound. She might have a temporary hit but not the type to sustain long-term fanbase. Honestly I think she needs to go back to Latin music ASAP. If she wants more R&B / urban or a drastic reinvention, then mix urban/dance with Latin like JLo's debut album (On The 6 - Feelin So Good, Let's Get Loud, Waiting for Tonight)
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