cypriotpcdfan Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Julianna Calm Down said: Well, that’s one perspective. The other perspective is that Ghostface exists because Billy and Stu were crazy psychos. No, it's a literal fact. Billy because a crazy Psycho because Maureen ****** his dad and his mom left them. Not to mention Ghostface and the murders were orchestrated by Romen, Sydney's brother. She IS literally the reason that Ghostface exist.
Julianna Calm Down Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, cypriotpcdfan said: No, it's a literal fact. Billy because a crazy Psycho because Maureen ****** his dad and his mom left them. Not to mention Ghostface and the murders were orchestrated by Romen, Sydney's brother. She IS literally the reason that Ghostface exist. Yes, I understand what you’re saying completely. That’s what they say - that it’s because of Sid and that she has blood on her hands. That people die because of her. But my point is that it’s got nothing with Sid. They killed people and became Ghostface because they’re deranged psychopaths. Sidney’s not the reason. The reason for Ghostface and for all the murders are because crazy nut jobs decided to kill people and blame Sid and make her a reason in their perverted head.
kishi Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Folks are allowed to be disappointed that Sidney isn't in the movie. But at the same time, we don't have to continue to rehash the conversation. She wasn't getting what she wanted in pay and decided not to participate. At some point we need to let it go...
cypriotpcdfan Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Julianna Calm Down said: Yes, I understand what you’re saying completely. That’s what they say - that it’s because of Sid and that she has blood on her hands. That people die because of her. But my point is that it’s got nothing with Sid. They killed people and became Ghostface because they’re deranged psychopaths. Sidney’s not the reason. The reason for Ghostface and for all the murders are because crazy nut jobs decided to kill people and blame Sid and make her a reason in their perverted head. Ah, I get what you mean. While that is indeed true, Marueen Prescott was the trigger that put everything in motion.
Julianna Calm Down Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, cypriotpcdfan said: Ah, I get what you mean. While that is indeed true, Marueen Prescott was the trigger that put everything in motion. How was she the trigger?
SealitwithaJ Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Anyone have an idea of how they are going to write Sidney out of this movie? I’m really curious how they are going to explain her absence. Like in Scream 5 Sidney literally said “I have kids now so i’m not gonna sleep until this guy’s in the ground” when she came back to Woodsboro. So since this killer is going after people from the past you’d think she’d still be just as concerned about her & her family being targeted.
Sweetestsecret Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Julianna Calm Down said: How was she the trigger? She abandoned Roman (her son), and she had an affair with Billy's father Edited February 19, 2023 by Sweetestsecret
SealitwithaJ Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Julianna Calm Down said: How was she the trigger? How was she not? During his ghostface reveal Billy literally said to Sid: ”Your **** mother was ******* my father. And she's the reason my mother moved out and abandoned me. How's that for a motive?”
Julianna Calm Down Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, SealitwithaJ said: How was she not? During his ghostface reveal Billy literally said to Sid: ”Your **** mother was ******* my father. And she's the reason my mother moved out and abandoned me. How's that for a motive?” I understand what you’re saying. But are you saying there’s a causal relationship between Maureen abandoning her son and sleeping with Billy’s father, and Billy/Stu/Roman becoming Ghostface and killing innocent people?
SealitwithaJ Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Julianna Calm Down said: I understand what you’re saying. But are you saying there’s a causal relationship between Maureen abandoning her son and sleeping with Billy’s father, and Billy/Stu/Roman becoming Ghostface and killing innocent people? I’m not saying it was her fault, i get what you’re saying that they are deranged psycho’s etc. But she was their motive, aka what motivated them to do all those killings, which means she’s the trigger for them.
Julianna Calm Down Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, SealitwithaJ said: I’m not saying it was her fault, i get what you’re saying that they are deranged psycho’s etc. But she was their motive, aka what motivated them to do all those killings, which means she’s the trigger for them. Yes absolutely, for sure. Wonder what the motive will be in S6. I thought one of the worst parts of S5 was the weak ass motive.
ccfan007 Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 What is going on in here?! Where is all of this random disrespect for Neve coming from? I get wanting this movie to succeed without her and that's great but don't act like she didn't give us one of THE best characters in all of horror. Put some respect on her name.
qurl Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 the gag is with how much money they are gonna make off this film they could have completely compensated Neve appropriately , but now they only get a good box office score and a sour taste in the mouths of fans that have been here since the 90s. lemme repeat: it is obviously fine if Neve not being in it means nothing to u and ur still excited to see the film. but it just seems so unnecessary to tarnish the franchise by disrespecting the woman that the series (up until now) was 100% centered around. i predict that despite the money it makes it will not be very highly regarded by Scream fans in a couple years.
cypriotpcdfan Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, qurl said: the gag is with how much money they are gonna make off this film they could have completely compensated Neve appropriately , but now they only get a good box office score and a sour taste in the mouths of fans that have been here since the 90s. lemme repeat: it is obviously fine if Neve not being in it means nothing to u and ur still excited to see the film. but it just seems so unnecessary to tarnish the franchise by disrespecting the woman that the series (up until now) was 100% centered around. i predict that despite the money it makes it will not be very highly regarded by Scream fans in a couple years. Exactly this. And I'm sure Neve wasn't demanding some crazy ass amount. But from the sounds of it, what they offered her was probably offensively low
blackoutbritney Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Agreed. The Sidney/Neve slander is not the edgy serve y’all think it is! While 6 still looks great let’s not act like this entire franchise is not built upon her back. There would not be a 6th film if it was not for her legitimizing the last film.
chosensparkles Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, blackoutbritney said: Agreed. The Sidney/Neve slander is not the edgy serve y’all think it is! While 6 still looks great let’s not act like this entire franchise is not built upon her back. There would not be a 6th film if it was not for her legitimizing the last film.
cypriotpcdfan Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, blackoutbritney said: Agreed. The Sidney/Neve slander is not the edgy serve y’all think it is! While 6 still looks great let’s not act like this entire franchise is not built upon her back. There would not be a 6th film if it was not for her legitimizing the last film. LOUDER
SealitwithaJ Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, ccfan007 said: What is going on in here?! Where is all of this random disrespect for Neve coming from? I get wanting this movie to succeed without her and that's great but don't act like she didn't give us one of THE best characters in all of horror. Put some respect on her name. I kinda feel like any of the people dragging Neve and her involvement in Scream probably became a fan during Scream 2022? I just don’t see how you could feel that way about Neve if you’re a big fan of the franchise, like it’s so centred around her/her character if you don’t like her what you doing in this thread unless you’re a newcomer to the Scream fandom, if that makes sense.
qurl Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, SealitwithaJ said: I kinda feel like any of the people dragging Neve and her involvement in Scream probably became a fan during Scream 2022? I just don’t see how you could feel that way about Neve if you’re a big fan of the franchise, like it’s so centred around her/her character if you don’t like her what you doing in this thread unless you’re a newcomer to the Scream fandom, if that makes sense. or even worse it’s girls that think Jenna Ortega invented horror movies/roles …. Sarah Michelle and Neve walked so that lil girl could run , but anyway that’s the last i have to say on the subject. i’m not supporting the film in theaters but as a lifelong fan of the franchise i’ll catch it on Paramount+ later this year i’m sure
Lead Cenobite Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Neve will be there to conclude the franchise. The series can branch out and try new things because having Sidney go through so much will be tiresome. But she is the star along with Ghostface, Gale and Dewey was too.
SchmoodRing Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 5 hours ago, cypriotpcdfan said: Her performance wasn't lackluster. The writing was Just because the movie will be successful without her doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to be paid exactly what she's worth. And she's worth A LOT as she IS the face of Scream, THE final girl and a legendary Scream Queen. Imagine having a Shrine scene with ALL the ghostfaces and easter eggs from all past movies and have ******* SAM be the center. How is that impactful for her? What impact does, having props and items from the events of Scream 2, 3 and 4, have on ******* SAM? It makes ZERO sense. If they completely avoid even mentioning Syndey's name in this movie, it will have a huge negative effect on all the true fans of the franchise. 5 hours ago, Hurem said: They can do whatever they want, as long as they make good movies. We still don’t know how much she was offered, so it’s dumb to go on and on about if. Ghostface is key ingredient of Scream, not Neve. If Scream VI turns out to be a box office success, Neve might wanna lower her standards cause her TV shows are getting cancelled left and right and she won’t be in a position to negotiate. we can go on about it because it affected production and is definitely gonna be the elephant in the room during promotion. ghostface and sidney go hand in hand like laurie and michael myers. 4 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: Love her, but both a Scream TV series and Scream movie have been made without Neve at this point. She is a huge part of Scream, but it could be argued Ghostface or Gale are just as important as Sidney at this point. i mean let's see how gale is utilized in this to see if the latter statement rings true. cause if not it's gonna look like gale inserting herself to remain relevant. outside of brooke the scream tv series was trash. hence why it was canceled and then for some reason rebooted. 4 hours ago, chosensparkles said: The Scream series was awful and Scream 6 is the first film to be made without her scream 5 barely used her but she’s the reason why it all started exactly this whole franchise literally happened because of her. she was the original target and the reason why this all started in the first place. 11 hours ago, Kevin2803 said: Billy Loomis is her father, so atleast this will have an impact on her. We already know that she is struggling with her "dark side" and will be remembered how she killed Richie (the bloody knife) and apparently the GP will think that she was the mastermind of the events in Scream 2022, so seeing all of this will probably affect her. Definitely not as much as Sidney tho, but to be fair, we already had a similiar scene with her in Scream 3 and the Woodsboro movie set. Also: Gale and Kirby will be at the shrine, too. And the latter won't happen. Radio Silence already confirmed that Sidney will definitely be mentioned. agreed with the first half of your statement. it's gonna be hella weird sidney not showing up after gale is attacked... 11 hours ago, Bloodflowers. said: And now she will be begging to get back into Scream 7 so she can pay her rent, but her paycheck will instead go to Jenna Ortega, an actual movie star. ... what is your deal? did neve do something to your personally? neve is in no way struggling for you to describe her as much. y'all are getting really smug and comfortable with disrespecting people without merit. but if we give you back the same energy you'll cry wolf. get it together. jenna is not a movie star. her career in films is literally just starting. 11 hours ago, Bloodflowers. said: I said it for years how Friends actress Courtney Cox was the reason for Scream success all along from the start. Now with Scream 6, we will finally get receipts to back that up. Instagram followers between Neve and Courtney don't lie, I fear. it was a combination of many things. don't discount wes craven, neve campbell at the time being on the hit series party of five and drew barrymore. their were plenty of ingredients as to why the original was a hit that it was. not us basing worth on social media. what are you a teenager? focus this energy on gwen so can stop getting fillers and putting out fillers and find some damn inspiration to put out a damn album how about that?! 10 hours ago, bad guy said: I just want the writing to be good and for it to be entertaining with great chase sequences/kills. Personally I think Jenna Ortega is the future of these films, and it’s at a point now where Ghostface coming after a 50+ year old Sidney gets ridiculous. Honestly her story should have ended at 3. Gale has always been given very little compared to Sidney (understandably) so I’m glad to see her get her own movie with 6. I’d like to see Neve come back for 7 but even if she didn’t, I’m fine with the Sam, Tara, Chad, and Gale taking it to the end. The way her character ended in 5 was perfect send off. gale is literally in her 50s now so lol that's what i'm trying to get at. and same. sam already is serving better acting thankfully just by the trailer. jenna is a fantastic actress. curious to see what they do with chad. this all has so much promise. i just hope that they deliver. 10 hours ago, cypriotpcdfan said: Well, how much can you 'BRING' with that kind of material? Billi Loomis has zero involvement in the events of 2,3,4. I can debate 2, since I guess Mrs Loomis is her grandma I still don't get the 'she was the mastermind in Scream 5'. Based on WHAT? Who thinks that? How will they make that a storyline? What happened to suggest she was the mastermind? Gale Weathers, a celebrity, was present. 6 more people can vouch for her. She would have been killed at the final act had Courtney, Sydney and Tara did not help her kill Richie and Amber. What impact do all those items have on Sam IN COMPARISON to what would have been Sydney walking into the shrine, seeing Tate's outfit, the theater props from Scream 2, the Stab items, Mrs Loomis outfit, the TV that killed Stu, Jill's outfit etc? NONE agreed.and i gues that user means if words gets out about sam being the long lost daughter of billy loomis theirs gonna be a stigma that she is more than capable of being a killer. i got the vibe from the interactions in 5 that even sidney was kind of not trusting of sam and sjde eyeing her. 10 hours ago, wantedyoutogrow said: Also lay that Neve talk to rest. She's not in the movie, it is what it is. Should she have been paid what she thinks she deserves? Yes, definitely but this franchise has to move on from Sidney. And also Neve doesn't even like these movies and it's evident by her attitude and her performance (imo). It's just another paycheck to her so y'all are doing too much over nothing. if wes was still at the helm of this series you bet the king of horror would not disrespect his actress, character and franchise like that but wes also had character and class. one of the many reasons why he is our unproblematic king of the genre. she's always given solid performances in this franchise idk why people are coming for hers in 5. it is not just another paycheck to her if she wouldn't be trying to negotiate and go public as to why she won't be coming back. 9 hours ago, Slate said: Sidney isn't in the movie, get over it and ariana can no longer move her face 8 hours ago, Innocencelost said: thank you!!! You spilled the real tea. Also who wants to see more Scream movies centered about Sidney being stalked for the nth time and always surviving? It got stale. Live your best life Sidney Prescott! yet when i mention killing of gale that's doing too much? shouldn't this same logic apply to her character as well? especially after killing dewey you would think that they would give her a break. 7 hours ago, Chris said: What in the f*ck is going on in here? a conversation amongst users 7 hours ago, paddii_ said: I had the exact same thoughts y’all don’t even know in what context the shrine scene is gonna be used. Plus Radiosilence has focused more on dark humor. I doubt this will be a dramatic scene. OT I actually hope they keep elevating this and especially the motives. They can still mention the past, but we need to move forward. I will miss Sydney, but I hope they use the opportunity to give the franchise a new spin. Do we have any reviews yet of people from test screening or anything? the humor needs to be mediated. too much humor and this becomes a comedy. the more serious the better. let's really see if this ghostface is different. the shrine scene needs to be dramatic since it's literally the entire iconography of the series. dropping the ball on that would be so stupid.
SchmoodRing Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 7 hours ago, chosensparkles said: I vividly remember 4, it was really good outside of the filter whereas 5 kinda forgotten tho some stuff were cool DON'T **** WITH THE ORIGINAL <3 WOOF THE THEATER GOT UP AND CLAPPED. BDE SID. 6 hours ago, Bethenny Frankel said: The way y'all are having a complete meltdown when I'm just ready to see this film. the way that us fans are having open dialogue about a franchise property we give about is perfectly normal 5 hours ago, R`0`K`R said: My roommate doesn’t follow Scream that much and when I told him about the new Scream trailer weeks ago, he asked me “is Courtney Cox going to be in it?” Gail’s impact is equal if not more than Sidney. at this point yes. because she's the only legacy character left and present. 5 hours ago, qurl said: Neve was booking House of Cards at the time the Scream TV series was on to say nothing of the fact that it was objectively awful …. why would she EVER agree to be on an insipid TV show based on a role/story she perfected ?? worms mama i mean Gale is important yes and that’s why they brought her back , that’s why they also intended to bring Sidney back but wouldn’t pay Neve what she was asking for …. to be clear Sidney/Neve is the reason the entire series of events across 5 movies has transpired. there would be no psycho billy loomis and by extension Sam/Tara if it wasn’t for Sidney/her mom. if y’all like the movies as they are that’s fine but the amount of ppl just tying dumb **** in this thread just to be -ass contrarian twitter stan minded dumb dumbs is alarming Scream 5 would have floooppoppppppppppped if they did not bring back the original trio. it would have flopped to oblivion. they owe that cast the legacy they are now piggybacking off and running away with and me thinks Scream 6 will prove just how aimless the series can be without it’s unequivocal rock (Sidney Prescott) whoever you are, i love you. this was so well articulated <3 3 hours ago, Chris said: Some of you twinks do the absolute most. the irony of you saying this with madonna as your avi
SchmoodRing Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Ampersand13 said: Yeah, I think the hard fact is that multiple things can be true at once. I’m of course over the moon in anticipation for this film AND I will miss Neve. I think it’s okay to feel both genuine excitement and a little sadness for having an installment without our beloved heroine. Either way, I’m sure this is going to be a great entry into the franchise! queen avril has spoken! 3 hours ago, Julianna Calm Down said: Y’all so one dimensional in your analyses of everything. Perhaps it’s not one single thing that makes the scream movies successful and good, but the combination of factors. For me it’s the meta aspects, solid writing, the combination of different characters, the choice to kill drew off within the first ten minutes, the commentary alongside the horror, and the ever-tickling journey of who the killer is in the end. Neve, Courtney and David as a trio, solving these murders together, is the heart and soul for me so I think these characters disappearing will have an impact but it also creates room for a rebirth if done in a good and respectful way. It’s a great opportunity to replace the “old” scream queen with a new rising star that is gaining popularity, and that has to be Jenna Ortega. The timing is right, and “replacing” Neve with Jenna at a time when Jenna is really popular is a a smart move and should contribute to the rebirth and further development of Scream as a franchise, rather than have it fizzle out because Neve and David are gone and not returning. But that can only happen if they can bring good writing to the table, and if they can develop the slasher concept in a modern way. Just like the first scream did when it was first released. but we also need to continue to try and support fresh horror concepts. we need a new slasher franchise in general. theirs only so many sequels that you can make for scream and only so many reboots of nightmare, friday the 13th or halloween you know? also what makes y'all think and so secure that jenn will be doing this role for 20 years? 3 hours ago, ConceptD said: I can’t with some of the Neve Campbell slander in the SCREAM thread. She is the franchise. Ghost face isn’t like Jason or Chucky and is a bit more like Michael Myers in the sense that it only really works with the actual final girl there, but Sidney is more important to scream than even Laurie is to Halloween honestly. If I were a mod you would all be BANNED. exactly ghostface is literally well... faceless until the reveal and then they're given an identity and depending on that is when that incarnation of ghostface is memorable? 2 hours ago, cypriotpcdfan said: Completely agree. The writing in 5 was complete bullshit tbh and I'm sorry, but Melissa is not good. If they go with Jenna as the final girl, then there may be something there. with better writing and directions melissa would be fantastic. she was amazing in the heights and y'all should really check her out in another hororr movie called BED REST. 2 hours ago, Julianna Calm Down said: Well, that’s one perspective. The other perspective is that Ghostface exists because Billy and Stu were crazy psychos. but billy's motive are tied to sidney which drove him over the edge and stu was along for the ride 2 hours ago, kishi said: Folks are allowed to be disappointed that Sidney isn't in the movie. But at the same time, we don't have to continue to rehash the conversation. She wasn't getting what she wanted in pay and decided not to participate. At some point we need to let it go... i think once the movie comes out that'll do it for people 2 hours ago, Julianna Calm Down said: Yes absolutely, for sure. Wonder what the motive will be in S6. I thought one of the worst parts of S5 was the weak ass motive. wasn't it suppose to be some commentary on stan culture? like amber was all omfg i live in the murder house lemme go on reddit and stan with someone else and repeat history because we're fans and i live here like ... 2 hours ago, ccfan007 said: What is going on in here?! Where is all of this random disrespect for Neve coming from? I get wanting this movie to succeed without her and that's great but don't act like she didn't give us one of THE best characters in all of horror. Put some respect on her name. x1000 2 hours ago, qurl said: the gag is with how much money they are gonna make off this film they could have completely compensated Neve appropriately , but now they only get a good box office score and a sour taste in the mouths of fans that have been here since the 90s. lemme repeat: it is obviously fine if Neve not being in it means nothing to u and ur still excited to see the film. but it just seems so unnecessary to tarnish the franchise by disrespecting the woman that the series (up until now) was 100% centered around. i predict that despite the money it makes it will not be very highly regarded by Scream fans in a couple years. it'll be voided if they make up for it by including her in the final installment scream 7 2 hours ago, cypriotpcdfan said: Exactly this. And I'm sure Neve wasn't demanding some crazy ass amount. But from the sounds of it, what they offered her was probably offensively low i really hope courtney threw her a bone because if they weren't getting paid the same rate then that's ****** up. cause on top of that courtney is a producer. why didn't she help with the negotiations? 1 hour ago, SealitwithaJ said: I kinda feel like any of the people dragging Neve and her involvement in Scream probably became a fan during Scream 2022? I just don’t see how you could feel that way about Neve if you’re a big fan of the franchise, like it’s so centred around her/her character if you don’t like her what you doing in this thread unless you’re a newcomer to the Scream fandom, if that makes sense. it does. alot of wednesday fans are getting cocky. it's low brow
SchmoodRing Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, qurl said: or even worse it’s girls that think Jenna Ortega invented horror movies/roles …. Sarah Michelle and Neve walked so that lil girl could run , but anyway that’s the last i have to say on the subject. i’m not supporting the film in theaters but as a lifelong fan of the franchise i’ll catch it on Paramount+ later this year i’m sure justice for SMG who not for nothing would have a more prospering career if she engaged in the genre more. she could've easily been a part of one of the many blumhouse, ghosthouse, atomic monster pictures and cemented a solid post buffy career legacy come on smg wake up and be the final girl that you were meant to be! 26 minutes ago, Lead Cenobite said: The series can branch out and try new things because having Sidney go through so much will be tiresome. again can't the same be said for gale?
kishi Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 It is interesting seeing different opinions of the franchise, especially fans of different generations. I've been a fan since the first film came out and have grown up with these films. I know some people are attached to certain chapters and characters more than others, but I have an overall appreciation for the first 5 installments. My hope is this film can be great on it's own...yes, please show respect to the legacy and past, but a good, entertaining story matters.
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