Relampago. Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) Tired of the "needs to be more personal" narrative, Rih, my other fave, made one of the biggest careers of all time while barely being personal at all. Rated R almost bombed because she tried getting personal and then Rude Boy saved the era. The one exception is Love The Way You Lie, which was a massively hyped up feature. Maybe Dua can snag a collab like that with Taylor or something idk. Dua isn't a personal girl, that's fine, that's not a problem. What's a problem is she's not pushing her career anymore. Rih got the radio payola narrative her whole career and now she's a megastar. Dua can be a payola queen and still end up being a megastar, but if she's just gonna give up on working to make an era happen then nothing is going to work for her. Edited May 27 by Relampago. 5
kayliah Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 hour ago, Relampago. said: Tired of the "needs to be more personal" narrative, Rih, my other fave, made one of the biggest careers of all time while barely being personal at all. Rated R almost bombed because she tried getting personal and then Rude Boy saved the era. The one exception is Love The Way You Lie, which was a massively hyped up feature. Maybe Dua can snag a collab like that with Taylor or something idk. Dua isn't a personal girl, that's fine, that's not a problem. What's a problem is she's not pushing her career anymore. Rih got the radio payola narrative her whole career and now she's a megastar. Dua can be a payola queen and still end up being a megastar, but if she's just gonna give up on working to make an era happen then nothing is going to work for her. well she loves taking vacations and doing the bare minimum. houdini could have used more promo the first few weeks everywhere...
SayIt Posted May 27 Posted May 27 3 hours ago, CozySkin said: Still on Love with the Album Thank you for sharing. We are so happy that you still enjoy the album. Do you have a favorite song?! 1 1
BrokenMachine Posted May 27 Posted May 27 3 hours ago, Relampago. said: Tired of the "needs to be more personal" narrative, Rih, my other fave, made one of the biggest careers of all time while barely being personal at all. Rated R almost bombed because she tried getting personal and then Rude Boy saved the era. The one exception is Love The Way You Lie, which was a massively hyped up feature. Maybe Dua can snag a collab like that with Taylor or something idk. Dua isn't a personal girl, that's fine, that's not a problem. What's a problem is she's not pushing her career anymore. Rih got the radio payola narrative her whole career and now she's a megastar. Dua can be a payola queen and still end up being a megastar, but if she's just gonna give up on working to make an era happen then nothing is going to work for her. This. I'd like to add that when Rihanna was at her peak pop stars like Dua could exist. Nowadays the only universal accepted thing is being personal and parasocial, so if she doesn't want to play that game, she needs to push harder with her promo and performances, because without that, and without a personal narrative her songs are gonna be on life support like this 2
GardenPanty Posted May 27 Posted May 27 I think this album is good but she should've went a more electronic/dance route if she wanted hits. Clearly this chill vibe isn't resonating with the public
Yes, AND Posted May 28 Posted May 28 4 hours ago, Relampago. said: Tired of the "needs to be more personal" narrative, Rih, my other fave, made one of the biggest careers of all time while barely being personal at all. Rated R almost bombed because she tried getting personal and then Rude Boy saved the era. The one exception is Love The Way You Lie, which was a massively hyped up feature. Maybe Dua can snag a collab like that with Taylor or something idk. Dua isn't a personal girl, that's fine, that's not a problem. What's a problem is she's not pushing her career anymore. Rih got the radio payola narrative her whole career and now she's a megastar. Dua can be a payola queen and still end up being a megastar, but if she's just gonna give up on working to make an era happen then nothing is going to work for her. I think she got too cocky and confused with her stature.
Yes, AND Posted May 28 Posted May 28 30 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said: This. I'd like to add that when Rihanna was at her peak pop stars like Dua could exist. Nowadays the only universal accepted thing is being personal and parasocial, so if she doesn't want to play that game, she needs to push harder with her promo and performances, because without that, and without a personal narrative her songs are gonna be on life support like this Please. Sabrina compares herself to an espresso in Espresso. And she is doing just fine.
tjspy Posted May 28 Posted May 28 I blasted this on car today and its absolutely amazing for sure. I'm so in love with this album, lowkey her best for me currently.
IBeMe Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Watcha Doing was blasing in my friends car by force (her phone died so I connected the wireless audio thingy) and it sounded like a surefire HIT tbh. She NEEDS to remix it with a big rapper and it can turn things around this era and then she can move on to the short tour and start working on DL4
BrokenMachine Posted May 28 Posted May 28 40 minutes ago, Yes, AND said: Please. Sabrina compares herself to an espresso in Espresso. And she is doing just fine. I meant it in the long run. Anyone can get their viral hits about anything of course, but becoming a household name with longevity is another step further 1
Yes, AND Posted May 28 Posted May 28 4 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said: I meant it in the long run. Anyone can get their viral hits about anything of course, but becoming a household name with longevity is another step further Dua wasnt, isnt now and will never be a household name. The confusion seems to lie in her and her stans thinking she was.
BrokenMachine Posted May 28 Posted May 28 35 minutes ago, Yes, AND said: Dua wasnt, isnt now and will never be a household name. The confusion seems to lie in her and her stans thinking she was. You're also her stan lmao, you've been in this thread for several weeks, don't try to detach yourself Because if you're not her stan and keep coming into this thread week after week then... that's sad 1 1
selena_lavigne Posted May 28 Posted May 28 (edited) This is still my album of the year (if we forget that i'm still bopping to the Mark Jeffcoat album) Obviously eternal sunshine also slaps. Oooo fine Maria slaps. I switched. Oooo this album is incredible. This album is an incredible listening experience. This was made for the pop stans. She really did THAT. Edited May 28 by selena_lavigne
selena_lavigne Posted May 28 Posted May 28 This album is absolutely phenomenal. And it slaps harder after sitting with it all month long. PHENOMENAL. 1
selena_lavigne Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Naw. Eternal Sunshine also slaps. Wtf why is everybody suddenly releasing good albums?
ahauntingnearu Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Houdini still fresh as ever. The third chorus in the extended version Ugh how I wish the album had stayed in this sonic world. I just know there are other Houdini-/TS-esque songs from that time ... I just fear the deluxe that was (surely) originally planned won't happen anymore knowing the vibe/sound just didn't stick.
Tistotal Posted May 28 Posted May 28 There's no more singles worthy tracks on this. We should have known with Illusion being the third pre release single. Maria, End of an Era and Falling Forever are good enough for a track, none of them is single material. She should release the deluxe edition asap.
jomarr Posted May 28 Posted May 28 2 hours ago, selena_lavigne said: Naw. Eternal Sunshine also slaps. Wtf why is everybody suddenly releasing good albums? Haven't heard this or any other major release this year. But I probably will given the feedback from ATRL.
Ivan_brit Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Why do I feel Training Season will suddenly go Viral any week ???
Cain Posted May 28 Posted May 28 (edited) 9 hours ago, Relampago. said: Tired of the "needs to be more personal" narrative, Rih, my other fave, made one of the biggest careers of all time while barely being personal at all. Rated R almost bombed because she tried getting personal and then Rude Boy saved the era. The one exception is Love The Way You Lie, which was a massively hyped up feature. Maybe Dua can snag a collab like that with Taylor or something idk. Dua isn't a personal girl, that's fine, that's not a problem. What's a problem is she's not pushing her career anymore. Rih got the radio payola narrative her whole career and now she's a megastar. Dua can be a payola queen and still end up being a megastar, but if she's just gonna give up on working to make an era happen then nothing is going to work for her. This is simply not true, were you a Rih stan in the early 2010s? That girl was making classic tweets filled with personality every other day, then she ofcourse had the Ch**s narrative which as disgusting as it was did personalize her to a lot of the GP Rih had MAJOR talked about relationships including Ch**s and Drake, Dua has had none Rih was very much considered controversial and her image as bad girl influenced even Beyoncé at the time One of the reasons for Rih's success was her personality and her clear branding Edited May 28 by Cain
mike_int Posted May 28 Posted May 28 (edited) End Of An Era is perfect to start this spring/summer morning with ... drinking coffee by the pool in the garden with white hydrangeas blooming and birds singing Edited May 28 by mike_int
Relampago. Posted May 28 Posted May 28 20 minutes ago, Cain said: This is simply not true, were you a Rih stan in the early 2010s? That girl was making classic tweets filled with personality every other day, then she ofcourse had the Ch**s narrative which as disgusting as it was did personalize her to a lot of the GP Rih had MAJOR talked about relationships including Ch**s and Drake, Dua has had none Rih was very much considered controversial and her image as bad girl influenced even Beyoncé at the time One of the reasons for Rih's success was her personality and her clear branding I'm talking music only, people in here are looking like they want 21s, Speak Nows and Lemonades which isn't only unrealistic but isn't even going to work for Dua because that's not what people want from her— same as Rih in the early 2010s. And on top of that, those tweets and posts were full of personality but it's not as if it garnered Rih a fanbase comparable to Hive, Monsters, Swifties or even the KatyKats and Army at that time. Rih had weak debuts and weak tour numbers. It wasn't till Anti, maybe Unapologetic, that Rih actually had any fanbase at all and it was certainly more for the music than her #clapbacks. Dua should be better at social media and bring back her more personal posts, but at the same time, that's not resolving the issue of getting her a fanbase, nor will making music about lonely days in Kosovo. She should release a song or two that are more personal if she wants, but to force it, especially an album full of songs like that, is begging to flop.
Cain Posted May 28 Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Relampago. said: I'm talking music only, people in here are looking like they want 21s, Speak Nows and Lemonades which isn't only unrealistic but isn't even going to work for Dua because that's not what people want from her— same as Rih in the early 2010s. And on top of that, those tweets and posts were full of personality but it's not as if it garnered Rih a fanbase comparable to Hive, Monsters, Swifties or even the KatyKats and Army at that time. Rih had weak debuts and weak tour numbers. It wasn't till Anti, maybe Unapologetic, that Rih actually had any fanbase at all and it was certainly more for the music than her #clapbacks. Dua should be better at social media and bring back her more personal posts, but at the same time, that's not resolving the issue of getting her a fanbase, nor will making music about lonely days in Kosovo. She should release a song or two that are more personal if she wants, but to force it, especially an album full of songs like that, is begging to flop. Well personally I never thought Dua needed to make more personal music, but what she does need to do if she wants to stay successful is just show more personality. If you listen to a pop album by Billie or Olivia or hell even Taylor and you have no clue who they are or who they've dated then those songs are just as 'personal' as on any other pop album, the only difference is with those artists people are able to project what they know of said artists onto the music People can't do that with Dua because they don't know anything about her And a big reason Rih was also successful is because people could also do that with her music "oh is this song about Ch**s? is that about Drake?" Just like they do with Taylor or Selena It sucks that that's the way it works for women in the industry but it does boost engagement 2
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