album Dua Lipa - 'Radical Optimism'

[gotportugal]

the debates being ODHs waiting 5 years for her to fail and now spending their saturday on an atrl thread talking between themselves

[kayliah]

I only listened to the album once and tried loving falling forever but it was too loud and these walls too chill going nowhere. i tried to force myself to like training season and illusion but now i have ptsd when i hear those songs on you tube or in my playlists had to delete them . I miss her Cool,physical and dont start now sound. She was so fresh and awesome.  Should she release a new album next year in october ? she could pull a rihanna 

[itsjokesta]

Maria has a chokehold on me. 

[V_E_N_U_S]

25 minutes ago, LanaXtinaFan said:

There's no way she's going to be able to tour the US with this album.

 

I listened to the album again last night and still just in shock at the utter drop in quality. I don't think I've ever seen a MPG fall so fast and so hard.

 

It just really makes me so sad because FN was just pure magic. I was euphoric the entire era. A true pop era. The quality was there and the DRIVE was there.

 

It's just sad to witness this in real time.

 

I think it's wild that people consider her to be a MPG, and believe me, I have been here and a massive fan since DL1. I think she's extremely successful, and popular, with impressive stats, but those things do not a MPG make. 

 

I really think FN was capturing lightning in a bottle during a time when the world needed it.

 

I really like the album, but it's sad that she had Tame Impala and Danny L Harle at her disposable and created something this safe.

Edited May 4 by V_E_N_U_S

[_Fey]

Also thinking about how Ariana, Beyonce, and Taylor announced and released albums between November and now, and how Billie was only two weeks away from doing the same as well. 

 

And what does Dua have over them to justify the extra 3-4 months she made everyone wait? 

 

Two (2) performances. 

[perpetual novice]

4 minutes ago, V_E_N_U_S said:

 

I think it's wild that people consider her to be a MPG, and believe me, I have been here and a massive fan since DL1. I think she's extremely successful, and popular, with impressive stats, but those things do not a MPG make. 

 

I really think FN was capturing lightning in a bottle during a time when the world needed it.

 

I really like the album, but it's sad that she had Tame Impala and Danny L Harle at her disposable and created something this safe.

This album is bombing but she is clearly part of the pop zeitgeist regardless. Dua Lipa is 100% one of the main people in focus in music for today's audience. We can see from the performance of the singles there was hype and anticipation but quality or style of the music just wasn't clicking 

[V_E_N_U_S]

1 minute ago, perpetual novice said:

This album is bombing but she is clearly part of the pop zeitgeist regardless. Dua Lipa is 100% one of the main people in focus in music for today's audience. We can see from the performance of the singles there was hype and anticipation but quality or style of the music just wasn't clicking 

I think being a popular artist who happens to be a woman and being a MPG are 2 different things!

[Tistotal]

Will she release more signed copies?

[perpetual novice]

Just now, V_E_N_U_S said:

I think being a popular artist who happens to be a woman and being a MPG are 2 different things!

Queen if you don't consider Dua Lipa a main pop artist of the 2020s I don't know where the bar is 

[V_E_N_U_S]

Just now, perpetual novice said:

Queen if you don't consider Dua Lipa a main pop artist of the 2020s I don't know where the bar is 

I do… I'm just saying she's not a main pop girl…

[_Fey]

MPG is just a term lonely gays on Twitter made up, please stop ndndjdjd

[tost1]

1 hour ago, Supervillain said:

Solaria is banned for 2 months.

 

Unbanned juat in time of this album smashing in July, ahh his mind 

[original_lifeline]

I'm following Dua since 2016 and this album is a boring meltdown! idk even her basic pop songs from DL1 sounded fresher and riskier than this safe and uninspired flop 

[bjorn]

15 minutes ago, perpetual novice said:

Queen if you don't consider Dua Lipa a main pop artist of the 2020s I don't know where the bar is 

Dua is not on the same level as

 

Taylor

Beyonce

Billie 

Ariana

Rihanna

Gaga

 

those are MPGs

 

Dua is in the same leauge as Ava Max, Bebe Rexha, Zara Larsson, lets be real 

[perpetual novice]

1 minute ago, bjorn said:

Dua is not on the same level as

 

Taylor

Beyonce

Billie 

Ariana

Rihanna

Gaga

 

those are MPGs

 

Dua is in the same leauge as Ava Max, Bebe Rexha, Zara Larsson, lets be real 

It's actually kinda crazy how u can spend a considerable amount of time on a forum about pop music but think Rihanna and Gaga are today's pop girls, and also literally none of the girls you listed alongside Dua have half as many hits as her and none of them have done a few select arenas on their tours let alone a fully sold out arena tour. Be a little more informed baby

[Machete]

20 minutes ago, perpetual novice said:

Queen if you don't consider Dua Lipa a main pop artist of the 2020s I don't know where the bar is 

The bar is def your album debuting over 25M that's for damn sure

[motomami]

Just now getting to listen to this… Falling Forever has got it, y'all are haters 

[Kristie Kuwa]

Omg, These Walls just made a huge jump of +20 positions to Top3!

 

Spoiler

On my charts

 

 

Edited May 4 by Kristie Kuwa

[GeminiCat]

54 minutes ago, LanaXtinaFan said:

There's no way she's going to be able to tour the US with this album.

Doja toured Scarlet just fine in the US after the album tanked and she was at her most hated. Doing arenas really isn't that big of a deal in anymore. 

[Nashe]

I don't think an underperforming album will have any effect on her touring ability. She's hip with the younger gen, she has a recent hits-heavy catalogue so another FN-sized tour should be easily doable. 

[J-esper]

You know ODLH have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation when Beyoncé', Taylor and other women are brought into the conversation.  Women with decade spanning careers with twice or more the amount of albums, who also are not her peers

 

People know they are not obligated to post a reply when they enter the thread, right?

[KatyPrismSpirit]

4 minutes ago, GeminiCat said:

Doja toured Scarlet just fine in the US after the album tanked and she was at her most hated. Doing arenas really isn't that big of a deal in anymore. 

Scarlet had Paint the Town Red

[Marianah Adkins]

Dropping TAP Management was the worst thing she couldve done in her career….

[TripToYourLove]

ok so these walls -> whatcha doing -> french exit is actually quite the TRIFECTA! 
 

 

 

she should've gone this route sonically for the whole album and shelved the 3 dance singles for a different album (well illusion shoulda just been deleted completely). 

[Crank_It_Up]

1 hour ago, gotportugal said:

she needs to dump Illusion forever it literally ruined her numbers 2 weeks from the release

 

 

All the Miley stans dragging her is the funniest to me, Dua is truly on misery lane to be compared to her

 

 

if this is her flop era I'll take it as I'll be seeing her headlining plenty European festivals, i'll take the wins I can get

 

I somewhat disagree. I think Training Season is where people lost interest in the era. It didn't come out swinging the way they expected it to. Its streaming kept falling week to week and radio wasn't letting it rise much. In hindsight, it makes sense why Warner and her team panicked and rush released Illusion. But panicking was a dumb decision, they should've calculated a full plan. They should've allowed TS To continue its thing and naturally fall out and then push Illusion right at the album release (if it was still their choice for the next single).

 

I say this because album releases get big boost whenever a music video is also released alongside to it. This is why her management's dumb asses should kept their patience and held Illusion until then. We're currently in album release weekend without any music video which I feel is also a detrimental impact on the streaming numbers.