Communion Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Rep2000 said: Lol I have to laugh! Free press Tiktok In the same thread where people complained about sinophobia and Facebook helped planning coups in Tibet. The fact that you have to lie makes your rampant American white nationalism even more obvious, FYI. Not even China accused Facebook of "planning" anything. Facebook doesn't even dispute that insurrection "protests' were organized by anti-government groups on their platform back in 2009. China's government denied Facebook access to its market based on the company's refusal to provide data on Chinese users who wanted to overthrow the government. A January 6th tea. You might think it's good US companies allow such organizing on their platforms. That's fine. But the "hmm yet Facebook is banned in China" gotcha doesn't work because ByteDance has never said it wouldn't properly provide data on American users to America if the US government so requested it for national security. The fact remains that there is no actual evidence presented by Congress on how TikTok is a national security threat to the US and the inverse of American companies being regulated out of China doesn't explain this reasoning given that said companies were regulated out due to actual evidence of the US pressuring them to not comply with China's requests involving its own national security. It can't be an insurrection when it's your government but then not for others cause "China bad". We all know the source of this legislative campaign: Edited March 13 by Communion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Caesar said: comments like this are so stupid. you guys are so clueless it’s sad You’re so enlightened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup in Teapot Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Yeah, we can't control the platfrom then let's ban it. It's bRaInwAsHing our people!! Of couse this country is banning TikTok befroe they banning the AR-15 that actually killing 3721936179 children PHYICIALLY. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocity Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, Rep2000 said: And who do you think is controlling the narrative on it? Do you really believe Tiktok is the free press? Are you being obtuse on purpose? Tiktok is at the moment the best tool for normal people to share the atrocities that israel is committing because it suppresses it the least and can have wide reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, GhostBox said: I look for the senate Dems to slow walk this bill till after the election. 🤷 not because it’s wrong to pass it but just for the optics. Truthfully? No. Biden is eager to sign it because he knows Tik Tok is damaging his re-election campaign, and it's something that the ADL and AIPAC want Congress to prioritize, so I don't see Senate Dems slow-walking this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spree Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 hours ago, Princess Aurora said: Does it mean YouTube will skyrocket in views again like it used to? If so, bring it onMy YouTube channels will benefit from this. that's the first thing that came to my mind, too. Bring it on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spree Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 5 hours ago, GhostBox said: Agreed. TikTok users will find something else fast. what about Clapper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzyinsane Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 It's not gonna get banned. Even though Biden stated he would sign it, I feel like it's all a publicity stunt and he is not going to sign last minute in order to rack up those Gen-Z votes for the upcoming election. Timing and all, it couldn't be more obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted March 13 ATRL Moderator Share Posted March 13 I wish they had this type of energy on market regulation that will actually help people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 7 hours ago, GhostBox said: They have been planning to do this bill way before this conflict exploded And now they are actually pushing through with it. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, izzyinsane said: It's not gonna get banned. Even though Biden stated he would sign it, I feel like it's all a publicity stunt and he is not going to sign last minute in order to rack up those Gen-Z votes for the upcoming election. Timing and all, it couldn't be more obvious. Or more than likely the senate will slow walk it and nothing will happen till after the election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, izzyinsane said: It's not gonna get banned. Even though Biden stated he would sign it, I feel like it's all a publicity stunt and he is not going to sign last minute in order to rack up those Gen-Z votes for the upcoming election. Timing and all, it couldn't be more obvious. Naive at best. The Israel lobby ALWAYS gets what it wants no matter who is in power, and Biden is more beholden to Israel's whims than any other Democrat president (and tbh every other Republican besides -maybe- Trump!) has ever been. He cares more about Netanyahu's approval than young voters whom he'd assume he's already lost regardless anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep2000 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, velocity said: Are you being obtuse on purpose? Tiktok is at the moment the best tool for normal people to share the atrocities that israel is committing because it suppresses it the least and can have wide reach. Oh please, you do realize that even China censors their own Tiktok *in China* and recognises the impact of its own app on its own population, right? https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/03/08/1069527/china-tiktok-douyin-teens-privacy/amp/ To call it "free press" just because it dumps you with war clips contents and uses those outrages as engagement fuel is a laugh riot and a half. Edited March 14 by Rep2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep2000 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 4 hours ago, Communion said: The fact that you have to lie makes your rampant American white nationalism even more obvious, FYI. Not even China accused Facebook of "planning" anything. Facebook doesn't even dispute that insurrection "protests' were organized by anti-government groups on their platform back in 2009. China's government denied Facebook access to its market based on the company's refusal to provide data on Chinese users who wanted to overthrow the government. A January 6th tea. You might think it's good US companies allow such organizing on their platforms. That's fine. But the "hmm yet Facebook is banned in China" gotcha doesn't work because ByteDance has never said it wouldn't properly provide data on American users to America if the US government so requested it for national security. The fact remains that there is no actual evidence presented by Congress on how TikTok is a national security threat to the US and the inverse of American companies being regulated out of China doesn't explain this reasoning given that said companies were regulated out due to actual evidence of the US pressuring them to not comply with China's requests involving its own national security. It can't be an insurrection when it's your government but then not for others cause "China bad". We all know the source of this legislative campaign: My "rampant American white nationalism"?! Lol now you are just throwing your usual projecting words at people without thinking. But keep acting a clown, wbk that's just how you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, Rep2000 said: Oh please, you do realize that even China censors their own Tiktok in China and recognises the impact of its own app on its own population, right? https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/03/08/1069527/china-tiktok-douyin-teens-privacy/amp/ Highlighting that China's response is a public health measure that regulates the amount of hours that young people can use amy social media kind of makes it worse - not better - that America's focus is on silencing discussion of their financial enabling of genocide :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Quote On March 1, TikTok announced that it’s setting a 60-minute default time limit per day for users under 18. Those under 13 would need a code entered by their parents to have an additional 30 minutes, while those between 13 and 18 can make that decision for themselves. Odd these simple kind of measures for young people are not a priority for American based governance. Maybe the concern is not about mental health and wellness at all. Isn't it interesting the average American liberal suggests TikTok's algorithms and popularity with teens is nefarious yet would then call such common sense regulations like these "draconian" and "authoritarian"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiliam Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 the US acting like China now huh Just banned whatever you feel like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Tate Djo and Taylor are over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep2000 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 51 minutes ago, chiliam said: the US acting like China now huh Just banned whatever you feel like It's not a ban. Tiktok US can just sell it to an American company if it still wants to operate in America, just like Grindr was back in 2010. It makes sense to get a media that can reach 170 mil of US population under US control. Because as of right now, the US goverment can't do anything to keep Tiktok US accountable if there's any misdeeds or mishandling of US data. Especially in an election year ala Facebook - Cambridge Analytica in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 11 hours ago, TaggedGalaxy said: How will Normani get a hit now if she can’t show hole on Tik Tok She wasn’t getting a hit when she was showing hole on tik tok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordecai Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 The reasons behind it are sus but Tiktok is a cancer to society so the sooner it's erased the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Rep2000 said: It's not a ban. Tiktok US can just sell it to an American company if it still wants to operate in America, just like Grindr was back in 2010. It makes sense to get a media that can reach 170 mil of US population under US control. Because as of right now, the US goverment can't do anything to keep Tiktok US accountable if there's any misdeeds or mishandling of US data. Especially in an election year ala Facebook - Cambridge Analytica in 2016. Keep this line going. I 100% think it's gonna work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specter Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Rep2000 said: It makes sense to get a media that can reach 170 mil of US population under US control. Sis, speaking as someone that has been pretty (rightfully, at least I think so!) critical of China and Chinese geopolitics in the past, I just want to tell you that statements like these are insane It gets even worse when you consider that people then make the "(East) Asians are brainwashed" argument but then also want their own government to take control of media apps? What do y'all want? Is government control bad or not? Make up your mind. It's really not that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep2000 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Phantom said: It gets even worse when you consider that people then make the "(East) Asians are brainwashed" argument but then also want their own government to take control of media apps? What do y'all want? Is government control bad or not? Make up your mind. It's really not that hard. Who said that?!.gif It's insane to think that Tiktok in any form is "free press" when it's clearly not. It's clearly not that hard to understand why the US wants a foreign app that have so much controls on US citizens to be under US regulations. It's insane to think that it won't. Stop being obtuse and think, sis. Grindr was in the same situation back in 2010. Why are you acting brand new? https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/7/24093308/tiktok-congress-ban-push-notification Edited March 14 by Rep2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep2000 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, Communion said: Keep this line going. I 100% think it's gonna work. Keep acting a fool, dear. You're yapping at the wrong tree. Edited March 14 by Rep2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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