celeb news Camila finally reveals 5H split reason

[Witnessed ET]

2 hours ago, Robyn. said:

But...

 

In the end, whether or not Camila got a push or not, when they all went solo, the public couldn't care less about Dinah, Lauren and Ally.

What if those girls got the push Camila had? You think it would have made any difference?  

 

For instance Normani was also sidelined in the group, and yet she still gathered interest when she left the group.

Maybe the other girls were not meant to be.

 

You need to be serious. Camila left when the interest in the group was much higher, and she was supported throughout the tenure of fifth harmony too, got her own separate management from the four girls, and wasn’t stopped from pursuing solo stuff and deals while within the group as well.  it’s no surprise that she already garnered somewhat of a fanbase. The other girls simply didn’t have all the privileges and headstarts in comparison. The time when they finally went solo was when the group had already lost the gp’s interest. Yes Normani had more interest than the other girls but we should also see how she had the industry backing her up too as the “next Beyoncé” (in other words, the next token black female popstar), plus she did have some high profile collabs. So it’s all based on circumstances.

[BrentB]

6 hours ago, Ms.cleo said:

lol Camila was dumb to come out & reveal this because it proves that all those videos about the girls bullying her was BS. For years she played into being a victim in of bullying. She even went as far as acting like she couldn’t believe that her bandmates were “holding grudges” etc, then in a song she’s gonna say “I don’t blame the girls for how it went down”

 

 

umm why would you when you started it lmao…? 
 

she’s highly delusional and it just goes to show that for years while she was “on top” she couldn’t careless about how bad her bandmates were being dragged. Who am I kidding though, she didn’t even step out to defend Normani when her racist fanbase was bullying her. It took days peer pressure for her to make the vague statement she did. She could’ve made a statement telling everyone to stop years ago but she used it as a vehicle to gain sympathy from the gp. 
 

that’s why I’m not surprised that the girls (excluding Dinah) don’t give af about becoming good friends with her again. She’s not a good person & she knows it which is why she brings up 5H every time one of her flop albums is about to release.

That's a March Pisces for y'all . Disloyal social climbers & always the sweet, "relateable-queen" somehow, even if they carried out a grisly murder. E.g Casey Anthony . 

Edited March 7 by BrentB

[Witnessed ET]

10 hours ago, Archetype said:

Yes, but to Camila’s defense, she was sort of the hardest working one in the group and was involved in the entire process.  She was singing her ass off (comically so sometimes) on stage and was always trying to promote their music at every given chance.  She was unafraid to have high energy on stage and clearly fought for more vocal time on songs.  Point is, she really wanted it and it sort of made the other girls look less important/interested.  Yes, the system gradually came to favor Camila, but I can’t exactly blame them considering she’s the one who put in the most effort.

Let’s not assume the other weren’t doing their part too. The truth is that she was pushed and the other girls were sidelined from early on. Anyone who followed the group during their tenure can see that, both musically and management-wise. 

[Tudors]

5 hours ago, Garbaj said:

girl.... you act like camila cabello is just this big music icon, shes barely scratching the surface to be a MPG. they all contributed to the group. 

Right? Here goes Ally putting in her part right here

 

[remming]

4 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

You need to be serious. Camila left when the interest in the group was much higher, and she was supported throughout the tenure of fifth harmony too, got her own separate management from the four girls, and wasn’t stopped from pursuing solo stuff and deals while within the group as well.  it’s no surprise that she already garnered somewhat of a fanbase. The other girls simply didn’t have all the privileges and headstarts in comparison. The time when they finally went solo was when the group had already lost the gp’s interest. Yes Normani had more interest than the other girls but we should also see how she had the industry backing her up too as the “next Beyoncé” (in other words, the next token black female popstar), plus she did have some high profile collabs. So it’s all based on circumstances.

Lauren also signed a major deal and had almost as many solo fans as Camila. She was set up to succeed way more than the other 3. I just wanted to point that out since you mentioned "the next beyonce" thing. The success Normani managed to garner outside of 5h was soley her own doing with the right business moves and collabs. I agree with everything else you said though 

[Witnessed ET]

1 minute ago, remming said:

Lauren also signed a major deal and had almost as many solo fans as Camila. She was set up to succeed way more than the other 3. I just wanted to point that out since you mentioned "the next beyonce" thing. The success Normani managed to garner outside of 5h was soley her own doing with the right business moves and collabs. I agree with everything else you said though 

That’s what I’m saying, Camila wasn’t the only “star” of the group as so many people are trying to insinuate here. Lauren had it too. And she did have some cute numbers with Expectations her debut song, Now what she decided to do after that is another story. But we’re talking about their time in 5H and how they were sidelined for Camila, and how was she was allowed to do stuff that others weren’t, and that won’t change. 

[corotinho]

46 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

You need to be serious. Camila left when the interest in the group was much higher, and she was supported throughout the tenure of fifth harmony too, got her own separate management from the four girls, and wasn’t stopped from pursuing solo stuff and deals while within the group as well.  it’s no surprise that she already garnered somewhat of a fanbase. The other girls simply didn’t have all the privileges and headstarts in comparison. The time when they finally went solo was when the group had already lost the gp’s interest. Yes Normani had more interest than the other girls but we should also see how she had the industry backing her up too as the “next Beyoncé” (in other words, the next token black female popstar), plus she did have some high profile collabs. So it’s all based on circumstances.

This has nothing to do with ''next token black female popstar'' LOL She was just more interesting to the public. What Lauren has that any other female pop star doesn't? She's just too common. Plus: she is just unbearable on her twitter. No one would ever give her any space to grow. The other two are nice girls, and has some talent but also they have nothing interesting in them.

Edited March 7 by corotinho

[Witnessed ET]

Just now, corotinho said:

This has nothing to do with ''next token black female popstar'' LOL She was just more interesting to the public. What Lauren has that any other female pop star doesn't? She's just too common. Plus: she is just unbearable on her twitter. No one would ever give her any space to grow. The other two are nice guys, and has some talent but also they have nothing interesting in them.

Camila is the same, she’s nothing special, yet she was given more privileges the other weren’t, why? And I’m talking about their time WITHIN the group, not after. 

[mrpartyrocker]

11 hours ago, Bitter Aging Twink said:

According to sources close to the star, Cabello had allegedly been dying to share some of her innermost thoughts with her fans.  In an interview following Fifth Harmony’s disbandment, Cabello stated, “Although I enjoyed my time in the band, I always saw myself as more of a songwriter. When I finally gathered the courage to write down the words ‘Havana ooh nah nah, Atlanta nah nah nah’ in my Notes App, I felt like for the first time in my life, the world could finally see who I was. Although I did enjoy singing ‘Work work work from home' and ‘Gimme gimme I’m worth it' with my fellow bandmates, I never felt like those songs showed the real me: a struggling songwriter who was dying to be heard.”

This is the funniest thing I’ve read on atrl so far

[corotinho]

4 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

Camila is the same, she’s nothing special, yet she was given more privileges the other weren’t, why? And I’m talking about their time WITHIN the group, not after. 

Camila has that specific tone in her voice that make it unique. Like you or not but i'm sure you would recognize her voice in any song she could put it on. Plus, she just made herself shine the most everywhere. 

Look at this:

 

While the others were doing their ''hmm ok then'' faces, Camila was right there making sure all the paps would get her with Selena. She just knew what to do, and she did. The others didn't even know what they were doing.

Edited March 7 by corotinho

[JonginBey]

Lauren CARRIED them from their time competing on The X Factor till their first EP only for her to get sidelined for one of the Chipettes, who with all her popularity and payola while in the group still did not want to be in the group. Ungrateful ho.

 

[ImpressMeMuch]

38 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

Camila is the same, she’s nothing special, yet she was given more privileges the other weren’t, why? 

 

1 hour ago, Witnessed ET said:

 the “next Beyoncé” (in other words, the next token black female popstar)

 

[orange22]

She barely even talked about them or said any new info in the interview and y’all running away with narratives  

[Archetype]

4 hours ago, Witnessed ET said:

Let’s not assume the other weren’t doing their part too. The truth is that she was pushed and the other girls were sidelined from early on. Anyone who followed the group during their tenure can see that, both musically and management-wise. 

It’s not that the others weren’t doing their part, Camilla was just simply doing MORE than everyone else because she desperately wanted that solo career.  She wanted to be the star of the group so she could convince her label that it was worth investing in her as a solo artist, and she succeeded.  

 

It’s never fair to be in a group like that and need to compete with the same girls you’re supposed to work with, but that’s what it came down to.  Any of the other girls could have gotten her deal instead, that is a fact.  Camila was not chosen because she has any specific talent or skill the others don’t, or because her personality is somehow better (it’s not).  She was chosen because she proved to her label that she would put in the extra work necessary to make a solo career happen, the others didn’t do enough. 

Edited March 7 by Archetype

[Ms.cleo]

1 hour ago, Archetype said:

It’s not that the others weren’t doing their part, Camilla was just simply doing MORE than everyone else because she desperately wanted that solo career.  She wanted to be the star of the group so she could convince her label that it was worth investing in her as a solo artist, and she succeeded.  

 

It’s never fair to be in a group like that and need to compete with the same girls you’re supposed to work with, but that’s what it came down to.  Any of the other girls could have gotten her deal instead, that is a fact.  Camila was not chosen because she has any specific talent or skill the others don’t, or because her personality is somehow better (it’s not).  She was chosen because she proved to her label that she would put in the extra work necessary to make a solo career happen, the others didn’t do enough. 

No she was chosen because she’s a petite white latina who sang pop, they knew they’d be able to market her perfectly. 
 

they would never have given Normani, Dinah nor Ally the chance to be the lead despite them having the superior vocal talent and/or stage presence to command the stage.

 

they wanted Lauren to be the lead but she said no, so they went with the other white latina in the group. You guys need to stop playing dumb and insinuating that the BS the girls went through is because they’re basically lazy and Camila is such a “hard worker”. 
 

Camila didn’t have to do much because it was handed to her. Mgmt used the group to hype Camila up. They cut the other girls down because they didn’t want their talents to outshine Camila, lbr. There’s a reason why Camila was constantly in the middle, leading the performances, always getting the main parts in songs. 
 

if they actually gave everyone equal parts, everyone would agree that she’s the least talented. Actually ppl are starting to see that now that the others are releasing music.

[Archetype]

17 minutes ago, Ms.cleo said:

No she was chosen because she’s a petite white latina who sang pop, they knew they’d be able to market her perfectly. 

A conspiracy but go off

17 minutes ago, Ms.cleo said:

they would never have given Normani, Dinah nor Ally the chance to be the lead despite them having the superior vocal talent and/or stage presence to command the stage.

You're not fooling anyone.  Maybe some of them have improved since then, but Camila was really the only group member who had a combination of stage presence, vocal ability (good enough), and could stay on key while dancing.  Normani can barely speak while dancing, Ally didn't know how to dance, Dinah looked like she was afraid to be on stage, and Lauren just wanted to be comfortable on the side doing her thing.  Camila was the one who *wanted* to be in the middle, the one who wanted a solo career the most, the one who made it clear to their label that she wanted to part ways, etc.  Things happened for her because she put the pressure on everyone around her to make it happen, and that included leaving the group suddenly and on bad terms.  That's how far she was willing to take it and it worked out for her.  TLDR things don't happen for people who are comfortable staying in their lane and afraid to push back.  I don't even like Camila or any of the 5H girls, she just out played and out worked them to get what she wants.  Now they're all flops, go figure. 

Edited March 7 by Archetype

[MissedTheTrain]

8 hours ago, Cyanide said:

This is dumb and not true. I know for a fact that the other girls were all being offered collabs and side things, not just Camilla. Not to mention the group was still on the rise during all of this, and could’ve seen more success which would’ve led to a more established future for ALL of the girls.
 

And the only reason Lauren didn’t get the same push as her is because they are both Latina girls from Miami who would obviously occupy the same market and niche. Camilla played the game dirty and did what she was told despite them all being under shitty circumstances — which is why it might seem like she was more “invested” than the other girls

Sony is just as much to blame as Camilla in all this 

 

But yeah, we’ll see what happens with the new music, wishing her the best but karma is what it is 

Yep!  

They initially agreed to hold off on solo music while in the group.  Camilla went behind their backs and started doing just that, on top of promoting herself apart from the group, and not being open about it to them.  All while they were on such an amazing rise.  It's a shame.

[Soda Pop Queen]

 let's keep it a buck: IT WAS ABOUT MONEY, or lack thereof. Management was ****** up and they were not being paid. This was exposed ages ago in that leaked backstage audio when Lauren was crying to Ally about them being worked like slaves and seeing no money.

[Dialamba]

Why you guys acting Camila was that *****. Till this day people are clowning for pushing Ty Dolla please 
 She didn’t work harder than the girls she was just more privileged and got more opportunities. 
Dinah is the better performer and singer, Normani the better dancer but they were far away from Camila, only Lauren could match Camila in term of popularity but she never cared about success. 
 

[Sad Serenade]

Lauren supposed to be more like a lead at the very beginning, look at Miss Movin On. Something changed quickly because Camila gained more fans and attention, label and managers saw that and gave Camila the "lead" crown.

Camila also put herself as a lead in some performances, she was very annoying for doing that while all the other girls respected each others space and moment. 

Dinah is very unnerrated. Just look at Who Are You performances, she was great and confident on stage.

 

 

[rzal]

On 3/7/2024 at 8:11 AM, Witnessed ET said:

Her annoying ass voice was so overused in that group. I felt really bad for real vocalists like Dinah and Ally always sidelined to make way for Camila. It’s disgusting. 
Lauren was also a victim of that in a few songs (wasn’t she given zero lines in Worth It?), but at least Lauren was striking enough that she gained some attention on her own.

But the blatant push Camila was getting from the label from the beginning was so meh to witness, just because she stood out in terms of vocal tone. I’m obviously not blaming her here but the whole team behind it, but yeah the system/machine behind that group was so messed up bro, they were working in an environment where they were always made to feel like they had to compete.  It’s a miracle they were able to garner as much success as they did. It’s a testament to their work ethic and their individual talents tbh. 

Real vocalist like Dinah is sending. This girl was always so out of breath on stage that fans came up with a lie that she has asthma. 

[Brooklyn Baby]

I mean she has three full albums out and is about to release her fourth  

Yall can call her a flop but out of the five, she's the only one to release a full body of work. The other four are struggling to even release one. 

 

This group was never meant to be big. They had zero chemistry and were just thrown together overnight. 

 

I'm also not sure why people are still fighting that they should've stayed as a group when it was revealed that their group contracts were sh*t and they were barely making any money at all. Why stay in a group that's not making you any money

Edited March 8 by Taeyong

[Eat The Acid]

On 3/7/2024 at 6:26 AM, Tudors said:

She will realize she is now just a legacy act from the 2010s, soon. Hopefully she collected enough hits to tour into her 80s

Sis she did NOT have enough impact to be a legacy act. 

[BOOMBAYAH]

Camila was my favourite growing up. Thinking back to prime FH days, it seemed like her becoming the next MPG was inevitable. She had the A-List friends, the charisma, the unique tone, the beauty (and the manager on the side + resolve to be snakey/calculated). It’s so strange to see where she is now in her career, because at one point she was such an obvious pick for a major MPG.

Edited March 9 by BOOMBAYAH

[Kamil24]

Camila was the least privileged going into the X Factor. The other 4 had all of their auditions shown, some extensively (Dinah, Ally, and Lauren), and Normani was given some love edit with another contestant throughout the season. They were ALL shown in multiple rounds and Camila was non-existent until judges  houses, where her parts of "Impossible" was really well received and quickly gained her a bit of fan-base. Lauren was still placed as the main focus of the group for most of the season (after Demi's comment, they did put more focus on Camila for 2 weeks but then went back to Lauren for the est of the season). Her natural charisma, stage presence and X Factor just shone through after the show in all that they did, which is why she ended up the most successful.

Edited March 9 by Kamil24