Ascareus Kratos Posted March 9 Posted March 9 I really like coke zero and sprite zero. But gosssh. Can they change aspartam into better sweetener
TeemoR Posted March 9 Posted March 9 Diet Coke is the Lady Gaga of sodas. The others simply don’t come close.
Tudors Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) Y'all try this sht yet? It taste beautiful And I hear it's permanent What should be permanent was the starlight version but this one is good. Edited March 10 by Tudors
1DES Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Only the can version is good. The other versions of it are not that great.
1DES Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Tudors said: Y'all try this sht yet? It taste beautiful And I hear it's permanent! What should be permant was the starlight version but this one is good. Starlight was disgusting. I heard this wasn't good either. Marshmello collab was good.
Tudors Posted March 10 Posted March 10 40 minutes ago, 1DES said: Starlight was disgusting. I heard this wasn't good either. Marshmello collab was good. That one one disgusting and I didn't drink it. This one just take like when you go to one of those coke machines and make raspberry coke with the options. The Rosalia one was delicious too. Pixel and ultimate were crap tho
Pillz Posted March 10 Posted March 10 4 hours ago, TeemoR said: Diet Coke is the Lady Gaga Madonna of sodas. The others simply don’t come close. Here, fixed it
monster_enriquer Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/5/2024 at 8:20 PM, Daddy said: Nah, it tastes like bad fake Coke to me. If I want to have something unhealthy than I better get the real deal. On 3/5/2024 at 11:50 PM, BambiStar said: Regular Coke unhealthy but so is Diet Coke. I swear people see "0 Calories" on the can and think omg it's just like water!!! genuinely curious, how is it unhealthy? since it sometimes help me to remain in calorie deficit and satisfies the craving of a regular coke. someone debunked the statement that aspartame is cancer-causing. What else does it has to be considered "unhealthy"?
badvibez Posted March 10 Posted March 10 15 minutes ago, monster_enriquer said: genuinely curious, how is it unhealthy? since it sometimes help me to remain in calorie deficit and satisfies the craving of a regular coke. someone debunked the statement that aspartame is cancer-causing. What else does it has to be considered "unhealthy"? Diet Coke contains phosphoric acid which can cause kidney stones. It mostly happens to people who drink soda/iced tea instead of water. If you limit yourself and drink enough water you should be fine 1
Pendulum Posted March 10 Posted March 10 THIS QUEEN >>>> I'm so sorry for the Americans who have never had or do not know what cassis is.
Worm Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/5/2024 at 9:04 AM, Dante Silva said: It’s not. It contains an artificial sweetener called aspartame which was passed by the FDA for usage under notoriously dubious circumstances. Aspartame also breaks through something called the blood/ brain barrier and is linked to increased risk of brain cancer. I have avoided all beverages containing aspartame for the aforementioned reasons for decades. Aspartame doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, that's demonstrably false and you should mistrust any source that tells you it does. It's fully hydrolysed in the GI tract into its metabolites (aspartic acid, phenylalanine and menthanol) which are then absorbed by the body. So aspartame doesn't even enter systemic circulation, let alone cross the blood brain barrier. This has been verified by experiments taking blood samples of people who consumed many times the maximum daily recommended intake of aspartame, with no aspartame being found in their blood. The cancer risk from aspartame (as of the 2023 IARC and JECFA reports) is also strongest for liver cancer, breast cancer and obesity related cancers, not brain cancer. But as other users have pointed out, the evidence of any link is very weak and contradicted by numerous studies showing that there is no increased cancer risk from consumption of aspartame. Since aspartame is one of the most contraversial food additives in human history (and therefore one of the most studied), you're probably a lot better off consuming aspartame than many of the newer alternatives that have not been subjected to the same decades of scrutiny and experimentation. Despite all those studies, there is still no scientifically established link between aspartame and an increased risk of any form of cancer. To put these results in context, you can compare them with the exhaustively documented links between even moderate alcohol consumption and oral, oesophagul, larynx, liver, breast, and colorectal cancers in numerous journals over the past 3 decades. I'm not sure how the whole 'natural/grown from the ground' crew treats alcoholic beverages because fermentation is by definition a chemical process, but this is theoretically a good counter example that proves 'natural' products can be more carcinogenic than synthetic chemicals, that even industries with an enormous amount of money behind them (alcohol sellers) are unable to prevent the scientific community from establishing a cancer link where there is one to be found, and that the level of evidence for the carcinogenicity of aspartame is comparatively low enough that you can consume it without any real concern for your safety. 2 1
Miss Show Business Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/5/2024 at 4:04 AM, Dante Silva said: It’s not. It contains an artificial sweetener called aspartame which was passed by the FDA for usage under notoriously dubious circumstances. Aspartame also breaks through something called the blood/ brain barrier and is linked to increased risk of brain cancer. I have avoided all beverages containing aspartame for the aforementioned reasons for decades. This is fear mongering misinformation. There is no reliable evidence linking aspartame to cancer. And just because something gets excreted through your bloodstream, doesn't mean it's causing harm. 1 1
Dante Silva Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said: This is fear mongering misinformation. There is no reliable evidence linking aspartame to cancer. And just because something gets excreted through your bloodstream, doesn't mean it's causing harm. That must be why the French government banned it in 2015, because how dare any country in the world not agree with the U.S. and be more protective of its citizens health than the U.S. and its Food and Drug Administration given its close association to big pharma. Also: Edited March 11 by Dante Silva 1
Miss Show Business Posted March 11 Posted March 11 51 minutes ago, Dante Silva said: That must be why the French government banned it in 2015, because how dare any country in the world not agree with the U.S. and be more protective of its citizens health than the U.S. and its Food and Drug Administration given its close association to big pharma. Also: Others already explained to you why this is false information, but let me add that just because something is banned somewhere, does not mean, scientifically, it is harmful. The US, for example, bans a lot of color additives the EU allows. This is obviously not a condemnation of the EU's entire regulatory system. Also, the US regulatory system is based differently than the EU. US typically bans things proven to be hazards, while the EU only requires they have potential risks, even if the majority of evidence doesn't support it. A Food Scientist can explain this better than me: perhaps there are a few points in this clip I'm leaving out. 1
Archetype Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Why not just drink naturally sweet fruit juice or tea? At least you’ll get natural vitamins compared to the trash that is coke. 1
Dante Silva Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 7 hours ago, Miss Show Business said: Others already explained to you why this is false information, but let me add that just because something is banned somewhere, does not mean, scientifically, it is harmful. The US, for example, bans a lot of color additives the EU allows. This is obviously not a condemnation of the EU's entire regulatory system. Also, the US regulatory system is based differently than the EU. US typically bans things proven to be hazards, while the EU only requires they have potential risks, even if the majority of evidence doesn't support it. A Food Scientist can explain this better than me: perhaps there are a few points in this clip I'm leaving out. I side with the French government on this. You don’t get to cite the false information card whilst at the same time conceding to the reality that certain non U.S. governments consider the exact same substance (aspartame) to be a potential risk to health. You are free to consume whatever product and beverage you wish but encouraging others to consume inorganic manmade chemicals that mimic a wholly organic product already found in nature is shady and if I were you I would not be able to live with my conscience for actively and shamelessly falling for the marketing and promotion of a substance that potentially impacts upon and causes serious, negative health implications for individuals merely to satiate your own ego. Also, the WHO who are a credible entity make it clear there is no evidence the usage of artificial sweeteners reduces weight loss or aids health in any way, so by people choosing to omit artificial sweeteners from their diet, there are zero negative health implications in doing so (conversely there may be potential negative health risks in consuming them). https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj.p1112#:~:text=Artificial sweeteners and foods that,World Health Organization has advised. Edited March 11 by Dante Silva
DanyelP23 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Diet coke isn’t that popular in my country (compared to zero or regular). But since I switched from drinks with added to sugar to drinks with artificial sweeteners (zero coke, pepsi max, the lime and pineapple versions as well) I lost over 80 pounds. The best for me was the 250ml version of a diet cherry Pepsi but I have not managed to find it anymore (tbh I didn’t search extensively through supermarkets either)
GentleDance Posted March 11 Posted March 11 4 hours ago, Dante Silva said: I side with the French government on this. You don’t get to cite the false information card whilst at the same time conceding to the reality that certain non U.S. governments consider the exact same substance (aspartame) to be a potential risk to health. You are free to consume whatever product and beverage you wish but encouraging others to consume inorganic manmade chemicals that mimic a wholly organic product already found in nature is shady and if I were you I would not be able to live with my conscience for actively and shamelessly falling for the marketing and promotion of a substance that potentially impacts upon and causes serious, negative health implications for individuals merely to satiate your own ego. Also, the WHO who are a credible entity make it clear there is no evidence the usage of artificial sweeteners reduces weight loss or aids health in any way, so by people choosing to omit artificial sweeteners from their diet, there are zero negative health implications in doing so (conversely there may be potential negative health risks in consuming them). https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj.p1112#:~:text=Artificial sweeteners and foods that,World Health Organization has advised. I think you'll agree that red meat is not an "inorganic manmade chemical that mimics a wholly organic product already found in nature", it's 2A while Aspartame is 2B, explain please 1
superben Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Sprite is the GOAT. Diet Coke is blah. If it's about calories, I'd rather drink water than Diet Coke.
Dante Silva Posted March 11 Posted March 11 3 hours ago, GentleDance said: I think you'll agree that red meat is not an "inorganic manmade chemical that mimics a wholly organic product already found in nature", it's 2A while Aspartame is 2B, explain please Honey, the topic of this thread is Diet Coke not how bad red meat consumption is for human health in contrast to a vegetarian diet or one that places greater emphasis on white meat/ poultry. Last time I checked The Coca Cola company had not introduced red meat to the checklist of ingredients for their products. For what it’s worth (and despite it not being the subject of this thread), I happen to be in total alignment with your views on red meat.
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