GraceRandolph Posted March 4 Posted March 4 The latest New York Times/Siena College national poll brought bad tidings for Democrats. The results showed 48% for Trump over Biden, who pulled in 43% of respondents — a major and telling five point lead. “That’s the largest lead Mr. Trump has ever had in a Times/Siena national poll. In fact, it’s the largest lead Mr. Trump has held in a Times/Siena or Times/CBS poll since first running for president in 2015,” writes Nate Cohnat NYT. It’s a significant blow for Biden as voters question the president’s decisions on immigration and his handling of the Hamas-Israel War in Gaza. Moreover, Biden faces a lack of support from voters in his own party, with many expressing doubt over whether he should be the party’s presidential nominee at all this November. Recently during the Michigan Democratic primary, over 100,000 Democrats in the state opted to vote for nobody rather cast support for the president. Michigan is an essential swing state in the upcoming election that Biden won last time by less than 150,000 votes in 2020.
WildAmerican Posted March 4 Posted March 4 if the half of dems thing is true, then you'd think there'd be a viable challenger to him in the primary 3 1 1
GraceRandolph Posted March 4 Author Posted March 4 Just now, WildAmerican said: if the half of dems thing is true, then you'd think there'd be a viable challenger to him in the primary Right now the challenger is uncommitted, which got 100k votes in a state Hillary lost by 10k votes in 2016 in key Democratic stronghold demos. 4 1
Communion Posted March 4 Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, WildAmerican said: if the half of dems thing is true, then you'd think there'd be a viable challenger to him in the primary Sadly no because the Dem base has been gaslighted into thinking there's some abstract concept called "electability" that should supercede their preference so we've fallen into a snake pit of most people feeling "well I don't like him but I'm sure there's some center-right white suburbanites in Wisconsin who do so he is the most electable and able to beat Trump" even when those mythical voters end up less and less existing. 7 3
dawnettakins Posted March 4 Posted March 4 Well, maybe if the Democratic party establishment hadn't fought tooth and nail AGAINST any legitimate primary or primary contender. 3
shyboi Posted March 4 Posted March 4 Yeah, they are 100% switching Biden for someone else, Gavin most likely
getBusy Posted March 4 Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, shyboi said: Yeah, they are 100% switching Biden for someone else, Gavin most likely I hope i’m wrong but this will never happen
shyboi Posted March 4 Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, getBusy said: I hope i’m wrong but this will never happen Biden will not win, specially now that Trump is able to be on the ballots. It will be a smart move if they pick someone with some sort of record. Gavin is popular enough 2
cOe Posted March 4 Posted March 4 As someone from outside US it absolutely BAFFLES me how Biden is the nom. His public image is horrendous 3
WildAmerican Posted March 4 Posted March 4 1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said: Right now the challenger is uncommitted, which got 100k votes in a state Hillary lost by 10k votes in 2016 in key Democratic stronghold demos. uncommitted isn't a candidate... what it is is a horrible sign for Biden. So like I said, it's just weird that there hasn't been some effort to get someone else to run...
GhostBox Posted March 4 Posted March 4 (edited) Cool but another two released today has Biden a little ahead. Again there’s going to be plenty of polls released from now till Election Day. That’s 8 months. All that matter is votes. Edited March 4 by GhostBox 1
getBusy Posted March 4 Posted March 4 53 minutes ago, shyboi said: Biden will not win, specially now that Trump is able to be on the ballots. It will be a smart move if they pick someone with some sort of record. Gavin is popular enough We agree that Biden won’t win. But the DNC won’t do anything about it, that’s what I’m saying.
ForgottenSoul Posted March 4 Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Cool but another one released today has Biden a little ahead. Again there’s going to be plenty of polls released from now till Election Day. That’s 8 months. All that matter is votes. What people don't understand is that Biden had a big lead last time now he basically has no lead.. This day in 2020 Biden had a lead of 5 points.. now trump has an average lead of 2.3. Georgia - Trump lead 6.5% Michigan - Trump lead 3.6- same day 4 years ago Biden was ahead 4.7 2
GhostBox Posted March 4 Posted March 4 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: What people don't understand is that Biden had a big lead last time now he basically has no lead.. This day in 2020 Biden had a lead of 5 points.. now trump has an average lead of 2.3. Georgia - Trump lead 6.5% Michigan - Trump lead 3.6- same day 4 years ago Biden was ahead 4.7 And in 2016 Hillary was leading all the way up till Election Day national and in a lot of swing states (polls suggested she was ahead in all 3 important states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania) She then lost all 3 and the EC. Again polls could either be right like 2020 or completely off like 2016. Edited March 5 by GhostBox
Gottasadae Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Well, they will get a Trump train then with a wagon of problems Biden this, Biden that - i'm literally tired, especially when other option is far worse lunatic with lost case of schizophrenia. I hope those ppl are not gonna cry when Trump with his pals and Supreme Court come for them one by one 5 1 1
GraceRandolph Posted March 5 Author Posted March 5 20 minutes ago, GhostBox said: And in 2016 Hillary was leading all the way up till Election Day national and in a lot of swing states (polls suggested she was ahead in all 3 important states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania) She then lost all 3 and the EC. Again polls could either be right like 2020 or completely off like 2016. Hillary was leading in 2016 but lost, polls suggested a Biden blowout in 2020, but the election was closer in many swing states than predicted. If the polls are suggesting an even smaller lead, or a Trump lead then we are likely awaiting a disaster in November. 8 1
ClashAndBurn Posted March 5 Posted March 5 People were willing to give Biden a chance in 2020 due to their fond recollections of the Obama days, which is why he polled so well. Now that people have experienced his presidency for just over 3 years, they're really not impressed. He's failed to deliver in almost every possible way, and on top of that he's supporting Israel's genocidal ambitions at taxpayers' expense. 7 2 1
shyboi Posted March 5 Posted March 5 40 minutes ago, getBusy said: We agree that Biden won’t win. But the DNC won’t do anything about it, that’s what I’m saying. Well, but I'm sure Dems don't want to lose either? they will do something, I'm not losing hope sis.
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