celeb news Central Cee confirms ethnicity following rumours: mixed Chinese, English, Guyanese

[kishi]

12 hours ago, Opulence said:

Why is everyone Guyanese these days LMAO

Crazy right? There's never been a time where Guyana had more than a million people in the country, yet there's more Guyanese living outside of the country as well. 

 

I'm not sure how many people know that Rihanna, Deborah Cox, Saint Jhn, Eddy Grant, Jermain Jackman, Leona Lewis, CCH Pounder, Dawnn Lewis, Derek Luke, Sean Patrick Harris, Letitia Wright, Melanie Fiona, Sum 41's Dave Baksh and S Club 7's Tina Barrett have roots in Guyana. This is my first time hearing of Central Cee. 

Edited March 4 by kishi

[40_L3VE]

11 hours ago, Lüwís said:

Shouldn't really matter what he is. He's got talent.

 

That being said...

 

Idk if it's just me but it seems mixed people get a lot of sh*t for no reason.

 

I get sh*t from caucasians for not looking white but I also get sh*t from black people for looking too white. I'm literally a mix of both, like??? I get it from family members. Sometimes jokingly but sometimes it comes across as pure hatred. 

 

Some of us métis folks can't win. I've been called all sorts from 'mongrel' to 'n*****'. I've been told I need to get more sun, which is far from being the worst thing I've been told but it's annoying af, like... mind your business all of you.

 

People are so weird when it comes to colour and ethnicity, get tf over it. Keep your mouths firmly shut.

 

 

 

It matters because he's out here using the n-word with his non-black behind.

[glitch]

I didn't realise he'd said the n word...oh that's not

[Lüwís]

29 minutes ago, 40_L3VE said:

 

 

It matters because he's out here using the n-word with his non-black behind.

He's singing along to someone else's song... not spitting out the n-word with hate. 

 

There are geniune issues in the world but this isn't one of them. 

 

If anyone wants to be upset over him singing along to someone else's song, that's an issue in itself. An over-sensitivity one.

 

 

[airplane]

this man is the face of uk rap..... ugh

[Cbreezy]

2 minutes ago, Lüwís said:

He's singing along to someone else's song... not spitting out the n-word with hate. 

 

There are geniune issues in the world but this isn't one of them. 

 

If anyone wants to be upset over him singing along to someone else's song, that's an issue in itself. An over-sensitivity one.

 

 

Using the N-Word when not Black is 1000% a no-go. 

 

IDAF where he pretends to be from, but that is a hell no. 

 

Sidebar: I'm inclined to ask if you yourself are Black to even have jurisdiction to deem it "ok" for him to use the n-word...but it doesn't even matter. There's no circumstance where that's ok and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. 

[Lüwís]

5 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Using the N-Word when not Black is 1000% a no-go. 

 

IDAF where he pretends to be from, but that is a hell no. 

 

Sidebar: I'm inclined to ask if you yourself are Black to even have jurisdiction to deem it "ok" for him to use the n-word...but it doesn't even matter. There's no circumstance where that's ok and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. 

Read back to my first post in this thread. Even I wouldn't say the word. Same way I don't use any other slurs. But I am not going to get upset over someone else singing along to a song that uses the word. There are real examples of true racism to be upset about. 

[Cyanide]

Noo he’s so hot, I thought he was mixed black and white  

[Cbreezy]

1 minute ago, Lüwís said:

Read back to my first post in this thread. Even I wouldn't say the word. Same way I don't use any other slurs. But I am not going to get upset over someone else singing along to a song that uses the word. There are real examples of true racism to be upset about. 

I can appreciate you opening up about your experiences being mixed and I think way beyond "Central Cee" this whole topic at large is pretty insightful about race, the commoditization of race, and cultural experience.

 

BUT...

 

There is no acceptable scenario where someone who is not Black in any way is permitted to use the N-word. None.

 

Even us Black people using it really isn't ideal. But there's the whole re-claiming our narrative argument that can be peddled. 

 

"Our narrative" being the key term here.

 

Our ancestors literally lost their lives over that word and the generation today still aren't on an equal playing field because of that word and the ideologies of inequality attached to it.

 

Becky, Bill, and in this case, Central Cee, (who have a lineage who used that word to perpetuate anti-Blackness) do not get the benefit nor pass to use a word that has never adversely affected them. 

 

TBH, I've NEVER understood how the US allows corners of the Latin community to use it either. The Black walk, struggle, and history is its own unique thing that can't and shouldn't be rented to other communities just because "we cool like that". No.

 

More logically, it also blurs the lines in ways that confuse outsider parties about what's permissible and what's not. E.g. Fat Joe gets a constant pass for overusing the n-word, yet J.Lo gets lashed. Both of them shouldn't use it.

 

...And neither should Central Cee lol.

[40_L3VE]

56 minutes ago, Lüwís said:

He's singing along to someone else's song... not spitting out the n-word with hate. 

 

There are geniune issues in the world but this isn't one of them. 

 

If anyone wants to be upset over him singing along to someone else's song, that's an issue in itself. An over-sensitivity one.

 

 

 

 

Please. If you're not black, censor yourself. We all know the whites like to sing it at concerts, but you've gotta be a special kind of stupid to rap along and film yourself if you're not black. It's not for you. You DON'T get to use it. Maybe that was your non-black side talking, but calling it out is not a matter of over-sensitivity. The eff???

Edited March 4 by 40_L3VE

[Revolution]

Guyanese is not an ethnicity. That's like saying American is an ethnicity. The Americas are stolen lands.

[Lüwís]

49 minutes ago, 40_L3VE said:

 

 

Please. If you're not black, censor yourself. We all know the whites like to sing it at concerts, but you've gotta be a special kind of stupid to rap along and film yourself if you're not black. It's not for you. You DON'T get to use it. Maybe that was your non-black side talking, but calling it out is not a matter of over-sensitivity. The eff???

My "non-black side talking"?? Do you think I can flip between the two races at will? Do I have two personalities based on my racial makeup? FOH man. That's the dumb sh*t I'm talking about. I've met plenty of people like you to know I don't need to engage.  Disrespectful. 

 

1 hour ago, Cbreezy said:

I can appreciate you opening up about your experiences being mixed and I think way beyond "Central Cee" this whole topic at large is pretty insightful about race, the commoditization of race, and cultural experience.

 

BUT...

 

There is no acceptable scenario where someone who is not Black in any way is permitted to use the N-word. None.

 

Even us Black people using it really isn't ideal. But there's the whole re-claiming our narrative argument that can be peddled. 

 

"Our narrative" being the key term here.

 

Our ancestors literally lost their lives over that word and the generation today still aren't on an equal playing field because of that word and the ideologies of inequality attached to it.

 

Becky, Bill, and in this case, Central Cee, (who have a lineage who used that word to perpetuate anti-Blackness) do not get the benefit nor pass to use a word that has never adversely affected them. 

 

TBH, I've NEVER understood how the US allows corners of the Latin community to use it either. The Black walk, struggle, and history is its own unique thing that can't and shouldn't be rented to other communities just because "we cool like that". No.

 

More logically, it also blurs the lines in ways that confuse outsider parties about what's permissible and what's not. E.g. Fat Joe gets a constant pass for overusing the n-word, yet J.Lo gets lashed. Both of them shouldn't use it.

 

...And neither should Central Cee lol.

As for you, Cbreezy, I'll respond later. How do I do it privately? At least you were respectful about my personal experience and just clear in your response. 

 

 

 

[40_L3VE]

6 minutes ago, Lüwís said:

My "non-black side talking"?? Do you think I can flip between the two races at will? Do I have two personalities based on my racial makeup? FOH man. That's the dumb sh*t I'm talking about. I've met plenty of people like you to know I don't need to engage.  Disrespectful. 

 

I don't know how that works of where you get off telling black people that being upset with non-black people saying the n-word is a matter of oversensitivity. I don't know you or your experiences, but you seemingly don't have any respect or compassion for us.

If you wanna talk about disrespect, take a look in the mirror first.

[Domination]

Let me preface this by saying I myself am not black but anyone walking around with braids and saying the n-word who actively avoided commenting on his ancestry was obviously trying to cover for something  

[Inverted]

Like everyone else said, Guyanese is a nationality, not an ethnicity.

 

His father is NOT "Guyanese and Chinese". His father is Guyanese. His ancestry is Chinese and probably Indian. The majority ethnic group in Guyana is Indo-Guyanese (of Indian or South Asian descent). They make up at least 40% of the population. It's obvious he's trying to pretend he's part black and also cover up his Indian heritage because it's not "cool" or marketable.

 

This reminds me of Nicki saying she's Trinidadian of black and "Indo-Asian" descent when she blew up in 2009 with her very obviously Indian name. Freddie Mercury also pretended not to be Indian. Being Indian is looked so down upon in terms social status that they cover it up. 

 

15 hours ago, Cheers said:

 

This is his father btw

 

9 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

Sidebar: if that pic above really is his daddy, then Cench absolutely hasn't got a drop of Black in him lol.

 

There are many races in Guyanana, but almost all of the Guyanese people I've encountered are Indo-Caribbean (of full Indian ancestry, but culturally Caribbean) and based on what he's finally spilled, that Daddy definitely looks to be Indo-Carribean mixed with Chinese (per Cench). Thus making Cench essentially Asian and White. Which there is absolutely nothing wrong with. The whole Scooby Doo investigation feels dumb, but only because he made for it all lol. 

 

Yep, his dad is clearly Guyanese of Asian (Indian and Chinese) descent. He is not black at all. 

[Namie-Knowles]

The mixed person in the thread acting mixed. "People can say the N word it's so hard being mixed omg" Yeah because when you sit around tap dancing Black people aren't going to like you. Like it is a simple equation. Stop posting your Quadroon slam poetry and keep it moving babe.

 

Anyways Central Cee dumb as hell for attempting to cosplay Black when he is in the UK drill scene. It's like trying to pretend to be Black in the Japanese rap scene. You don't have to be Black to make motion in that area. He just did this **** to appropriate, cosplay, and say the N word without getting lashed.

Edited March 4 by Namie-Knowles

[Lüwís]

13 minutes ago, 40_L3VE said:

 

I don't know how that works of where you get off telling black people that being upset with non-black people saying the n-word is a matter of oversensitivity. I don't know you or your experiences, but you seemingly don't have any respect or compassion for us.

If you wanna talk about disrespect, take a look in the mirror first.

Okay f*ck Central Cee at this point. I'm talking to you.

 

Who's 'us'? Purebred Black? Who's they? Purebred white? What would I be to you as a mixed person of black and white? Be honest. 

 

Also, read BACK to my FIRST POST. Tell me AGAIN that I don't have any compassion for YOU. Being mixed, I still get some of the SAME SH*T that YOU would. So tell me AGAIN. You think that I don't understand what it's like? You think I wouldn't get discrimation too?

 

But tell me again, that I have no compassion. Tell me that I can't understand what it's like. Go on. 

 

4 minutes ago, Namie-Knowles said:

The mixed person in the thread acting mixed. "People can say the N word it's so hard being mixed omg" Yeah because when you sit around tap dancing Black people aren't going to like you. Like it is a simple equation. Stop posting your Quadroon slam poetry and keep it moving babe.

 

Anyways Central Cee dumb as hell for attempting to cosplay Black when he is in the UK drill scene. It's like trying to pretend to be Black in the Japanese rap scene. You don't have to be Black to make motion in that area. He just did this **** to appropriate, cosplay, and say the N word without getting lashed.

Acting mixed LMAO. Now we're seeing who's who. What else you gotta say, dude? 

 

 

[Lüwís]

Two sides of the same sh*tty coin.

 

Some groups have a damn lot more in common with each other than they like to admit. 

 

Boo fvkn hoo though. FOH. 

[40_L3VE]

7 minutes ago, Lüwís said:

Okay f*ck Central Cee at this point. I'm talking to you.

 

Who's 'us'? Purebred Black? Who's they? Purebred white? What would I be to you as a mixed person of black and white? Be honest. 

 

Also, read BACK to my FIRST POST. Tell me AGAIN that I don't have any compassion for YOU. Being mixed, I still get some of the SAME SH*T that YOU would. So tell me AGAIN. You think that I don't understand what it's like? You think I wouldn't get discrimation too?

 

But tell me again, that I have no compassion. Tell me that I can't understand what it's like. Go on. 

 

 

Who is talking about "purebred" anything?

 

You're mixed. Big deal. Your hangups about that aren't mine. If you're still upset about my "white side" quip (and that's all that was), you're showing yourself quite the hypocrite.

Afterall, you literally said that having a problem with non-black people saying the n-word in a song is being overly sensitive.

 

Clearly, you lack understanding. Why is that? I don't know. Don't know if it's down to your racial makeup, the people who raised you, the surroundings you grew up in or the literature you've engaged with.

 

You dealing with discrimination yourself, doesn't mean you cannot be ignorant or have blind spots in certain areas. If you truly understood, you would have never fixed your fingers to type that nonsense.

 

Btw, you might get "some" of the same ish, but don't act like being mixed and being black is the same thing. It's not and I'm not saying this to belittle your experience. It simply is not.

[Lüwís]

3 minutes ago, 40_L3VE said:

 

 

Who is talking about "purebred" anything?

 

You're mixed. Big deal. Your hangups about that aren't mine. If you're still upset about my "white side" quip (and that's all that was), you're showing yourself quite the hypocrite.

Afterall, you literally said that having a problem with non-black people saying the n-word in a song is being overly sensitive.

 

Clearly, you lack understanding. Why is that? I don't know. Don't know if it's down to your racial makeup, the people who raised you, the surroundings you grew up in or the literature you've engaged with.

 

You dealing with discrimination yourself, doesn't mean you cannot be ignorant or have blind spots in certain areas. If you truly understood, you would have never fixed your fingers to type that nonsense.

 

Btw, you might get "some" of the same ish, but don't act like being mixed and being black is the same thing. It's not and I'm not saying this to belittle your experience. It simply is not.

I say purebred because you're disregarding the experiences that we literally share because I'm guessing that I'm not 100% like you on the PPG colour chart.

 

Now where tf did I equate being mixed as being the same as being pure black? Or pure white for that matter, huh? 

 

Stop trying to backtrack too - Your "white-side quip" was a dig. Don't try to pass it off as anything but a sneaky, sly remark.

 

"You're mixed. Big deal. Your hangups about that aren't mine" yet you say "I'm not saying this to belittle your experience". Add in that one **** who said I'm "Acting mixed". You and others in here have done nothing but belittle my experiences. So, right there - you have shown yourself to be quite the hypocrite.

 

But again boo fvkn hoo for me, right? I've got a causcasian parent so my life must be so much better than yours, eh? It's gotta be cushy af. My skin's lighter than yours (I'm guessing) so I can breeze through life without a care, right? And we couldn't possibly have anything in common, how fkn absurd, what a ridiculous notion, damn...

 

FOH, don't interact with me again, man. I've known plenty of your type to know what kind of person you really are. I know you're as bad as them.

 

Sincerely,

 

Muttly.

[40_L3VE]

5 minutes ago, Lüwís said:

I say purebred because you're disregarding the experiences that we literally share because I'm guessing that I'm not 100% like you on the PPG colour chart.

 

Now where tf did I equate being mixed as being the same as being pure black? Or pure white for that matter, huh? 

 

Stop trying to backtrack too - Your "white-side quip" was a dig. Don't try to pass it off as anything but a sneaky, sly remark.

 

"You're mixed. Big deal. Your hangups about that aren't mine" yet you say "I'm not saying this to belittle your experience". Add in that one **** who said I'm "Acting mixed". You and others in here have done nothing but belittle my experiences. So, right there - you have shown yourself to be quite the hypocrite.

 

But again boo fvkn hoo for me, right? I've got a causcasian parent so my life must be so much better than yours, eh? It's gotta be cushy af. My skin's lighter than yours (I'm guessing) so I can breeze through life without a care, right? And we couldn't possibly have anything in common, how fkn absurd, what a ridiculous notion, damn...

 

FOH, don't interact with me again, man. I've known plenty of your type to know what kind of person you really are. I know you're as bad as them.

 

Sincerely,

 

Muttly.

 

You need therapy not ATRL.

[Namie-Knowles]

1 hour ago, Lüwís said:

Okay f*ck Central Cee at this point. I'm talking to you.

 

Who's 'us'? Purebred Black? Who's they? Purebred white? What would I be to you as a mixed person of black and white? Be honest. 

 

Also, read BACK to my FIRST POST. Tell me AGAIN that I don't have any compassion for YOU. Being mixed, I still get some of the SAME SH*T that YOU would. So tell me AGAIN. You think that I don't understand what it's like? You think I wouldn't get discrimation too?

 

But tell me again, that I have no compassion. Tell me that I can't understand what it's like. Go on. 

 

Acting mixed LMAO. Now we're seeing who's who. What else you gotta say, dude? 

 

 

I'm not bout to read all that I am so sorry.

[Namie-Knowles]

20 minutes ago, 40_L3VE said:

 

You need therapy not ATRL.

Right lmao some SERIOUS therapy. I don't know why they think they are eating when they are actively lashing themselves. It's insane. 

[Lüwís]

53 minutes ago, Namie-Knowles said:

I'm not bout to read all that I am so sorry.

 

1 hour ago, 40_L3VE said:

 

You need therapy not ATRL.

 

52 minutes ago, Namie-Knowles said:

Right lmao some SERIOUS therapy. I don't know why they think they are eating when they are actively lashing themselves. It's insane. 

Where did I lash myself at all? Lol. The only lashings were on you.

 

Neither of you can reply to what I said because you know I'm right about you disregarding someone else's experiences. 

 

So, you both choose resort to accusing me of being mentally ill. Now that's what's actually sick. Very telling about you as people. 

 

 

[Lüwís]

Making fun of mental health?