celeb news Taylor Swift was offered 4M by Singapore to not perform in other SEA countries

[Axolotl]

OP probably isn't an Asian because everyone already knew this and this is common here. Literally water is wet

[Tower]

The backfire

 

[IBeMe]

yeah their tourism ministry does this often. It kinda stinks. She could have and should have really done a couple dates in the Phillipines and MAYBE like a couple shows in Malaysia and Thailand. I know Malaysia has some restrictions on concerts but Taylor I dont think would have had an issue with those rules. They bend them depending on the artist and stuff. The fans in SEA are HUGE swifties...it kinda sucks 

[jim19911126]

7 hours ago, liquiddiamonds said:

the people love her, but the politics are messy. wasn't taiwan trying to get her to perform there too and she first accepted and then stepped back because of growing tensions with mainland china? it needs a special attention so nothing controversial takes place... i mean one of her albums is called 1989 lol there were no problems back in 2015, but 2024 is quite a different scenario

This is not true lol

 

Kaohsiung, Taiwan's second biggest city and where Coldplay, Black Pink and Ed Sheeran performed, was trying to get her to perform at the Taiwan's biggest stadium, National Stadium, but they passed because it's not the capital of Taiwan, and the capital, which is Taipei, didn't have any stadium size venue by then.  But now by 2024, Taipei has a brand new Dome just fully opened, with capacity of 40k, which will fit the stage and the production of The Eras Tour.

 

The latest news now is two cities (venues) are still trying to get her to come with the rumored 2025 leg, let's wait and see.

 

If we are being political here, then the only possible reason of her not coming to Taiwan is that her team would not want to trigger Chinese government by only performing in Taiwan but not mainland China, which may causes her losing the profit she's making from China. But let's be honest, her team would never place her to perform in China at this point with the ongoing conflict between the US and China.

Edited February 25 by jim19911126

[cat1867]

59 minutes ago, IBeMe said:

yeah their tourism ministry does this often. It kinda stinks. She could have and should have really done a couple dates in the Phillipines and MAYBE like a couple shows in Malaysia and Thailand. I know Malaysia has some restrictions on concerts but Taylor I dont think would have had an issue with those rules. They bend them depending on the artist and stuff. The fans in SEA are HUGE swifties...it kinda sucks 

Philippines  doesn't have anywhere near an appropriate venue for Taylor has the Philippines Arena can't even fit a 1/4 of her stage. If they had a stadium, I really doubt Taylor would skip them.

 

Malaysia could waver the laws but then Taylor would be at the mercy of local politicians to prevent cancellation . YNCTD and lover choreography are both very problematic with Malaysia's modesty laws. Her team would never risk losing tens of millions of dollars because of the Malayasian government's homophobia.

 

Thailand caused her to have her first even cancelled concert due to a coup so Singapore is obviously much more favored.

 

But for importantly, in Asia its much much more expensive to transport her stage between dates compared to Europe and Asia. With only a week at most between dates, she would need to fly her led stage (she only has one version of that although she has two sets of rigging) which is extremely expensive. As a result, she would never do a venue that she couldn't do at least 3 dates. Each venue needs to gross enough to cover the transportation cost and her running costs (her tour cost 2-4 million a week without performances). As a result,  if it wasn't Singapore having six shows it would be another SEA with the same amount of shows.  Even without subsidiaries, her team was always going to prioritize fewer venues with more shows due to how expensive it is to transport her stage.

 

Similarly, her coming back to Asia for another leg is very unlikely since she would need to pay her staff for another 2 months minimum to pay for the time it takes to ship her stage back to Asia  plus the very expensive shipping costs.

[Katamari]

7 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

Philippines  doesn't have anywhere near an appropriate venue for Taylor has the Philippines Arena can't even fit a 1/4 of her stage. If they had a stadium, I really doubt Taylor would skip them.

 

Malaysia could waver the laws but then Taylor would be at the mercy of local politicians to prevent cancellation . YNCTD and lover choreography are both very problematic with Malaysia's modesty laws. Her team would never risk losing tens of millions of dollars because of the Malayasian government's homophobia.

 

Thailand caused her to have her first even cancelled concert due to a coup so Singapore is obviously much more favored.

 

But for importantly, in Asia its much much more expensive to transport her stage between dates compared to Europe and Asia. With only a week at most between dates, she would need to fly her led stage (she only has one version of that although she has two sets of rigging) which is extremely expensive. As a result, she would never do a venue that she couldn't do at least 3 dates. Each venue needs to gross enough to cover the transportation cost and her running costs (her tour cost 2-4 million a week without performances). As a result,  if it wasn't Singapore having six shows it would be another SEA with the same amount of shows.  Even without subsidiaries, her team was always going to prioritize fewer venues with more shows due to how expensive it is to transport her stage.

 

Similarly, her coming back to Asia for another leg is very unlikely since she would need to pay her staff for another 2 months minimum to pay for the time it takes to ship her stage back to Asia  plus the very expensive shipping costs.

They don’t have an outdoor stadium?  

 

Philippine arena can hold. Like 55k so maybe they thought they never needed one

[cat1867]

1 minute ago, Katamari said:

They don’t have an outdoor stadium?  

 

Philippine arena can hold. Like 55k so maybe they thought they never needed one

Its because soccer/ real football isn't popular there. Stadiums are basically always built for sports first because there aren't that many stadium tier artists while sports team can provid consist revenue. 

 

Philippine arena is owed and run by a megachurch and most of  the events held there are religious services.

 

They have one stadium next to the Philippine arena but it can only seat 20K people so it can't get close to meet Taylor's required capacity.

[Axolotl]

7 minutes ago, Katamari said:

They don’t have an outdoor stadium?  

 

Philippine arena can hold. Like 55k so maybe they thought they never needed one

Also, the Philippine Arena is mostly seating area and the actual stage area is very small in comparison 

[cat1867]

4 minutes ago, Axolotl said:

Also, the Philippine Arena is mostly seating area and the actual stage area is very small in comparison 

Yeah its basically a giant amphitheater since it was designed for church services not concerts or sports game.  Stage is tiny.

[modeblock]

8 hours ago, Hans. said:

4m/date i think, so 24m total 

okay this makes a lot more sense, but it's still naught enough for the queen of capitalism, I fear 

[Communion]

...couldn't she make $4M from touring the Philippines alone? 

[cat1867]

20 minutes ago, Communion said:

...couldn't she make $4M from touring the Philippines alone? 

Philippines doesn't any venue that could fit her stage. It's biggest venue was designed for megachurch services so has no room for her stage.

 

[shyboi]

1 minute ago, cat1867 said:

Philippines doesn't any venue that could fit her stage. It's biggest venue was designed for megachurch services so has no room for her stage.

 

 

that's what the wilderness is for  

[Axolotl]

3 minutes ago, shyboi said:

 

that's what the wilderness is for  

We don't really have outdoor areas for shows either which is tragic, honestly 

 

Also, there WILL be a lot of security issues as well as a possible stampede happening since she is so massive here

Edited February 25 by Axolotl

[cat1867]

Her stage isn't designed or suited for non stadium environments. Same for reputation tour and the renaissance tour.  Production would need to be much simpler for proper outdoor shows. 

 

Stadiums allow Taylor to maximize both attendance and production while simplifying the logistics for putting on the show.

 

 

 

[shyboi]

Just now, cat1867 said:

Her stage isn't designed or suited for non stadium environments. Same for reputation tour and the renaissance tour.  Production would need to be much simpler for proper outdoor shows. 

 

Stadiums allow Taylor to maximize both attendance and production while simplifying the logistics for putting on the show.

 

 

 

 

let's not act like 2 massive screens and a dynamic runway are that big of a deal 

[EndofASadMovie]

3 hours ago, IBeMe said:

yeah their tourism ministry does this often. It kinda stinks. She could have and should have really done a couple dates in the Phillipines and MAYBE like a couple shows in Malaysia and Thailand. I know Malaysia has some restrictions on concerts but Taylor I dont think would have had an issue with those rules. They bend them depending on the artist and stuff. The fans in SEA are HUGE swifties...it kinda sucks 

The part about bending rules is so true. She will get a pass for everything

[Goaty]

7 hours ago, Billionaire said:

Wasn't OP a taylor stan at some point 

Six months ago they were posting in the base thread 

[Smilers]

As someone from SEA, Asian countries just has so many issues and turmoils that it becomes a potential liability for Taylor. She’s not someone like Coldplay who could just skate under the radar, her mere presence at NFL games already inspired Fox News segments about psy-ops. Touring extensively there could outright she gets herself entangled in messy Asian politics 

 

China is a communist authoritarian state, Thailand had military coup last time she booked there, Taiwan is at constant tension China, Malaysia and Indonesia are plagued with hardline Islamists, Philippines doesn’t even have a stadium to accommodate her stage, etc 

 

I can see why she just went with a residency in the most stable places with the most convenient logistics (Singapore and Japan). Hopefully, there’s still room to add more dates.

[C-Amber]

11 hours ago, Illuminati said:

As a matter of fact they don't, it might be a cultural thing but they don't hire Western artists as much

I disagree, they do a lot of that under the name of private concert, and as you posted this Kety Parry did a private concert in Australia.

[Nein]

Good. I'm glad my taxpayer money is going to her.

[State of Grace.]

I've seen many SEA fans complaining about this so it's not really news/a shocker

[KingWitch]

The fans in the Philippines were definitely robbed by this .

[ForgottenSoul]

Thats not much though she would earn way more from other shows

[Domination]

That’s it? A single show in another country could gross way more than that. To make it an appealing offer they’d need to do at least like $10M.