Feanor Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 Just now, BrandNewBrandon said: Ok, thanks for clarifying. Maybe she indeed could. Still, the OP suggesting something that is not the case. Looks to me like someone can't separate the objective facts that are put in direct quotes from subjective commentary. But you can't expect much from someone who thinks the Madrid mentioned in the article refers to the city and not the club. 6 8
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) 11 minutes ago, shyboi said: this is HUGE a big slap in the face to all those soccer fans that claim some players are bigger than the taylor swift Uhm, Messi and Ronaldo are way bigger than Swift or most popstars in Europe. It's not even a competition. And again, the club moving their date has nothing to do with Taylor's popularity, it only says it's easier to organize both events with more space in between them. Edited February 22 by BrandNewBrandon 8
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 22 Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Feanor said: Looks to me like someone can't separate the objective facts that are put in direct quotes from subjective commentary. But you can't expect much from someone who thinks the Madrid mentioned in the article refers to the city and not the club. "Madrid are also attempting to find an additional date to host a second Swift concert in light of the interest they have received" means the CITY wants to host another concert because the football club has nothing to do with organising concerts. And don't give me that subjective commentary bull. You tried to spin this story into them doing it because of Taylor's popularity. And even if you didn't, suggesting it has to do with her popularity is equally stupid. 1 6
WildHeart Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Taylor's Europe leg grossing more than Gaga's last 3 tours combined hit a nerve huh 10
taylamour Posted February 23 Posted February 23 7 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: "Madrid are also attempting to find an additional date to host a second Swift concert in light of the interest they have received" means the CITY wants to host another concert because the football club has nothing to do with organising concerts. And don't give me that subjective commentary bull. You tried to spin this story into them doing it because of Taylor's popularity. And even if you didn't, suggesting it has to do with her popularity is equally stupid. They are regularly referring to Real Madrid by only "Madrid" throughout the article. If they were referring to the city, they would be using 'Madrid is' not 'Madrid are'. 4
airplane Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) a bit rich coming from me but the user spiralling out of control is sending me OT: finally making noise in Europe Edited February 23 by airplane 1
shyboi Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, BrandNewBrandon said: Uhm, Messi and Ronaldo are way bigger than Swift or most popstars in Europe. It's not even a competition. And again, the club moving their date has nothing to do with Taylor's popularity, it only says it's easier to organize both events with more space in between them. Taylor is globally more famous than Messi and Ronaldo COMBINED AND MULTIPLIED. Edited February 23 by shyboi
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 23 Posted February 23 The way this whole thread and its title is the finest form of manipulating I've seen in a while on here Real Madrid is a club. Madrid is the city in which both events shows take place. In order to have more time to prepare for both events, the CLUB wants to move their date so the workers have more time to prepare for both events. That's that. And on a side note, Madrid (the city) would like a second Taylor concert because the demand is so big. A completely separate thing. The way you made it sound like the football club wants to move their date so Taylor can do a second show because they are organising it and not the city and stadiums is just beyond words and presumably intentional. Are you American, by any chance? 2 10
Feanor Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 Just now, BrandNewBrandon said: "Madrid are also attempting to find an additional date to host a second Swift concert in light of the interest they have received" means the CITY wants to host another concert because the football club has nothing to do with organising concerts. Do you lack reading comprehension or are you acting obtuse on purpose? Like I already pointed out to you in another post that you conveniently ignored, "Madrid" does NOT refer to the city in the context of how it's used in this very article: 11 minutes ago, Feanor said: The "Madrid" mentioned in the article refers to the club Real Madrid, and not the city of Madrid, as evidenced here: Quote Madrid are set to play Real Betis on Sunday May 24 before Swift’s Madrid leg of The Eras Tour takes place on Thursday May 30. The club have asked for the fixture to be moved to an earlier date, with Saturday May 23 in mind, to allow more time to prepare the stadium for the 34-year-old singer’s concert. Madrid are also attempting to find an additional date to host a second Swift concert in light of the interest they have received. …or here: Quote Madrid would need to play their final league fixture at the same time as Girona and Betis would need to play at the same time as the other teams in contention to qualify for Europe in the interest of sporting fairness. The CITY of Madrid is not set to play any game, the CLUB (Real) Madrid is, likewise the CITY of Madrid is not attempting to find an additional date, the CLUB (Real) Madrid is. There is not a single mention of the city as a Subject in the entire article. In fact, the full-term "Real Madrid" is only mentioned once at the very top of the article and from then on the author only uses the abbreviated form of "Madrid" to refer to the club. This is a simple literary device one uses to not type out full names every time Just now, BrandNewBrandon said: And don't give me that subjective commentary bull. You tried to spin this story into them doing it because of Taylor's popularity. And even if you didn't, suggesting it has to do with her popularity is equally stupid. … because that's exactly what this article says? Quote Madrid are also attempting to find an additional date to host a second Swift concert in light of the interest they have received. What do you think do they mean with the "interest they received"? It's explicitly stated, and nowhere in the OP's quotes nor commentary is there any denial of the logistical factor behind the decision to move the game, on the contrary, it's even the first quote. So I ask you once again, what story is being spun here, when all facts are laid out? 9
Rep2000 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 59 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: How every Taylor stan is reading this: "OMG, the most valuable football club in Europe has MOVED THEIR GAME because of Taylor because she's so huge1!!!!!" How it actually reads: The most valuable club in Europe moved their date because it's in the same stadium that Taylor's concert is in and will be easier to organize each party's event if the workers at the aforementioned stadium have more time to prepare for two major events in the span of two weeks and would be the same for every other major artist playing one week before their game". Another day, another gatekeeping post. Name one precedent when "every other major artist" does this. 7
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 23 Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, taylamour said: They are regularly referring to Real Madrid by only "Madrid" throughout the article. If they were referring to the city, they would be using 'Madrid is' not 'Madrid are'. And why would a football club organize a Taylor Swift concert? Surely it got you confused since them referring to Real Madrid in the article as Madrid is one thing but the city is also named Madrid and is the one hosting the concerts, not the Football club. Are the 49'ers organizing Swift's concert in San Fransisco? 3
NEX Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Omg, literally just yesterday I asked in base if she wasn't very popular in Spain cause she only got 1 date there compared to multiple dates in several much smaller counties
Rep2000 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Dear Reader said: oh they’re still going If a 2nd date is added, then what? That user can't gatekeep our girlboss. 1
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 23 Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Feanor said: The CITY of Madrid is not set to play any game, the CLUB (Real) Madrid is, likewise the CITY of Madrid is not attempting to find an additional date, the CLUB (Real) Real Madrid is not hosting Taylor's concert. It's a football club. That's like saying the Chiefs host every Taylor concert in Kansas City. But the city of Madrid is. So even if the Madrid in the article is indeed Real Madrid, which would be my mistake, your thread title still says the club is moving their game because they want more Taylor concerts when that's not the case. They are moving the game because they want more time for preparation to Taylor's show, and on a side note would like a second date because of high demand. So they are still not moving their initial game because of a second date, which is what your thread title is saying. 8
Feanor Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 Just now, BrandNewBrandon said: And why would a football club organize a Taylor Swift concert? Surely it got you confused since them referring to Real Madrid in the article as Madrid is one thing but the city is also named Madrid and is the one hosting the concerts, not the Football club. Are the 49'ers organizing Swift's concert in San Fransisco? Because they own the stadium? And yes, to book the stadium in San Francisco, Taylor had to make a deal with the 49ers/NFL, as they are also the owners of that venue, she didn't ask the US Congress or the SF city council. Organizing concerts is literally a business for the CLUB Real Madrid: Quote Real Madrid has struck a €360mn deal with investment group Sixth Street and US sports entertainment group Legends to develop concerts and other events at its Santiago Bernabéu stadium and diversify its revenues. And the author consistently uses "Madrid" in the same manner throughout the entire article as an abbreviated reference to the club and not the city. This has been pointed out to you by two different users now, there's only one person who's confused here and that's you. 10 2
Rep2000 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: And why would a football club organize a Taylor Swift concert? Surely it got you confused since them referring to Real Madrid in the article as Madrid is one thing but the city is also named Madrid and is the one hosting the concerts, not the Football club. Are the 49'ers organizing Swift's concert in San Fransisco? Maybe because the club actually owns that stadium. 10
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 23 Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, Feanor said: Because they own the stadium? And yes, to book the stadium in San Francisco, Taylor had to make a deal with the 49ers/NFL, as they are also the owners of that venue, she didn't ask the US Congress or the SF city council. Okay but your thread title is still saying they are moving their game to add a second Taylor concert which is inaccurate and misleading. 4
Lille Posted February 23 Posted February 23 One of the most successful football clubs in history recognizing the impact of the most successful recording artist in the world. 4
wastedpotential Posted February 23 Posted February 23 12 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: And why would a football club organize a Taylor Swift concert? Surely it got you confused since them referring to Real Madrid in the article as Madrid is one thing but the city is also named Madrid and is the one hosting the concerts, not the Football club. Are the 49'ers organizing Swift's concert in San Fransisco? Already saw you get clocked for the first point, but for the second, the 49ers were probably engaged in the conversation with Taylor and her team for the concerts at Levi's. All of Taylor's US shows were booked at NFL stadiums with intermediaries from the league, the teams, and other part-owners of the stadium (usually city/state governments). That's... how this works. I know a Gaga stan wouldn't know that much about touring stadiums in the US, but the booking of the stadiums happens in coordination with the primary tenants of the stadium. 1 2
iconoclasm Posted February 23 Posted February 23 I need to see her wearing the RM jersey Imagine she gets a personal tour of the stadium too
The Music Industry Posted February 23 Posted February 23 48 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: Well, you don't know that because she's not doing as many but good for her. Except we do considering over a million people signed up for the Madrid pre-sale alone 3
tiagol88 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 56 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: Well, given that both Harry Styles and Coldplay recently did more shows and sold more tickets than Taylor in Spain, I'm not entirely certain why you'd think other starlets couldn't. Even at two concerts in Spain, the popularity of Taylor's tour dates there are nothing noteworthy for it to be impossible for someone like Gaga to sell. You do know the reason why she doesn't have more shows in Spain is literally because the stadium couldn't have more dates for her right? The show sold out the date it was available. No way in hell Gaga in 2024 would be able to sell more tickets than Taylor
The Music Industry Posted February 23 Posted February 23 14 minutes ago, Dear Reader said: oh they’re still going Seriously we need mods to step in at this point. He's derailing every thread about Taylor. It's starting to look like a serious cry for help 3 6
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