celeb news Charli XCX addresses Rina Sawayama fallout & masters; 'not a Taylor Swift situation'

[ANG3L]

Imagine taking a side without even talking with your suppose friend?

But well, not a surprise at all if you ask me. Charli doesn't seem very clever, her quotes are always non sense stuff about how edgy she is, that she misses 2000s culture and how she hates her previous eras (which she also talked about it, trashing CRASH already)

[ChrispyBelievix]

I see one girl being mad that a person who owns her masters (aka made coin out of them) is tunring out to be a disgusting white man that mocks HER people etc.

and another girl being mad that her fiancé's bestie is being called out for the trash he is.

 

love BOTH of them, but I damn sure know which side I'd be on here...

[SpaceOddity]

She's such a dumbass sometimes. 

[ANG3L]

“I get tired of behaving in a way that people expect me, or expect pop stars, to behave. I’m not a role model – and I never did this because I wanted to be”

 

Aren't she tired already? This same b*llshit again, the GP don't even waste their time thinking about Charli XCX 

 

She takes her way too serious with her "avant garde pop" argument 

[Alex]

Charli is beating a dead horse at this point... both rina and marina have moved on girl

[visions]

L from Charli. Everyone has a voice but she needs to learn when adding your voice to a narrative helps or not. And it doesn’t here.

 

I do think she’s more so referring to fans not understanding how the industry works, and not really talking on Rina’s views on it but still, just sh. 

[Vermillion]

I already gave my thoughts on this on the long original feud thread between these two, and I don’t have the energy to expand on it at the moment:

 

[Skestina]

54 minutes ago, Alex said:

Charli is beating a dead horse at this point... both rina and marina have moved on girl

like.. its getting weird

[mathekr]

She's never beating the Pick Me allegations

[SimpleKindofLife]

I’m glad she re-signed with Atlantic, no other label will give her nearly as much creative freedom

[Daddy]

Love my girl Charli but this wasn't very "girls girl" of her...

[popstickle]

I honestly think people are doing the most over this and just assuming things when we don’t have all the information. 
 

At the end of the day, does it matter? Charli’s commenting on a situation that’s common in her industry and most of us aren’t in that industry so won’t know the minutiae of the situation. 

[rihxnicki]

2 hours ago, AMIT said:

Charli is dumb and so are you. Why is something being "common" an argument for it being a good thing? What do you think systemic change entails? Do you ever question anything ever or do you just go on with your life doing what other people tell you to do because they said it's the ''right'' thing? 

 

If it isn't clear, just because labels commonly own masters of their artists doesn't mean that's a good thing. Slavery is still ''common'' in many parts of the world, child labor was ''common'' just a few decades ago, does that make those things ok to you? 

 

You saying ''she isn't important'' just exposes your bad faith stance on this matter btw. 

I didn’t say that it’s a good thing that it’s common, but how can you expect to have all of the privileges of being a hugely successful artist while being relatively unknown? Either stay independent and own everything, or sign to a label and be prepared to sign your rights to those things away until you’ve at least earned them back. Labels are businesses, let’s not be obtuse and expect them to be some magical commune where they fund everything and the artists make all of the profit. Comparing Rina not owning her masters, which I could buy, to slave labour is laughable.
 

And regarding the importance comment, I love SAWAYAMA and her early music, and I’ve been to see her twice. But she has sadly let the internet get to her head and become a parody of the culture that propped her up.

[Domination]

Charli has always acted in her own self interests, so it’s no surprise, but Rina was weaponizing something that had nothing to do with her to try and get so unnecessary pressure on DH was lame as hell.

 

As to why Charli is still talking about it… that’s the real mystery.

[4th Time Around]

I am a big Charli fan, been loving her music for years and I think she was the one more in the wrong here.

 

She overreacted and has a really try hard and messy public persona.

[xTurn]

2 hours ago, ANG3L said:

Imagine taking a side without even talking with your suppose friend?

But well, not a surprise at all if you ask me. Charli doesn't seem very clever, her quotes are always non sense stuff about how edgy she is, that she misses 2000s culture and how she hates her previous eras (which she also talked about it, trashing CRASH already)

This, I don't really care about her frienship but trashing Crash... I'm tired of this kind of artist who hate all her previous work... Give my money back! 

[worldwide angel]

who is she to try and explain rina's situation to us  

 

and the girls tried to defame rina without any evidence just bc they're living for charli's mean girl antics

[AMIT]

2 hours ago, rihxnicki said:

I didn’t say that it’s a good thing that it’s common, but how can you expect to have all of the privileges of being a hugely successful artist while being relatively unknown? Either stay independent and own everything, or sign to a label and be prepared to sign your rights to those things away until you’ve at least earned them back. Labels are businesses, let’s not be obtuse and expect them to be some magical commune where they fund everything and the artists make all of the profit. Comparing Rina not owning her masters, which I could buy, to slave labour is laughable.
 

And regarding the importance comment, I love SAWAYAMA and her early music, and I’ve been to see her twice. But she has sadly let the internet get to her head and become a parody of the culture that propped her up.

You can miss me with that whole first paragraph. I was merely pointing out in my first post that you reinforced a logical fallacy (appeal to tradition) used by Charli's to justify her terrible stance on this. I didn't compare Rina's situation with slavery wtf, I used another example of the logical fallacy to explain my point, learn how to read! 

 

Your second paragraph is just nonsense, I'm sorry. For some reason you are skirting around the matter at hand trying to dimish Rina's issue regarding who gets paid for her music and it just feels like punching down, which is NEVER a good look. Please do better. 

[ohwow]

charli the hyperpop grifter releasing a big nothing statement akin to her music 

[liquiddiamonds]

y'all made her feel like the queen of alt-pop/hyperpop so she always wants to give her unasked for 5 cent opinion on other internet acts. she feels authority over them

[campelo]

She is so right about the the owning masters thing, it's how record deals work, it's about investment. I think the narrative around masters is so weird and blind-sided 

[lillavend3r]

Damn she almost signed to Interscope 

[flower moon]

charli... your mouth is moving a lot, like a rat. release some music instead.

[Mr. Peanutbutter]

She's so exhausting