wastedpotential Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) 51 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Taylor’s Jack Antonoff songs sound more similar yet I don’t hear people complaining about that. Dua is only on her third album and is carving out a sound for herself. Please be serious when this is the material: Spoiler As for Dua, there are certainly some elements of remarkable consistency throughout her discography, but I think it's pretty evident that her first album was very different in sound from Future Nostalgia, and neither Houdini nor Training Season have sounded much like they'd fit on FN either. Could you throw together a mashup of Dance The Night, Don't Start Now, Cold Heart, and Levitating that could credibly sound like it all came from one song? Yeah, probably, but it would be a good song. Dua has her lane, and she makes good music within it. Edited February 19 by wastedpotential 1
Relampago. Posted February 19 Posted February 19 34 minutes ago, wish said: All of Dua's recent music draws from 70s/80s dance-pop and the GP is a bit bored of that sound. The "psychedelic" influences also aren't nearly strong enough for the GP to notice. And yes, Training Season is disco influenced. Like… how? Because it has a bassline? Okay, so bad guy is now the biggest disco hit of 2019 because it has a bassline and Billie was actually the one who didn’t evolve since she tried to release her second disco song for a quick hit with Therefore I Am. I swear, if Dua hadn’t ever mentioned her disco era people would not be name dropping that genre to make it sound like they know what they’re talking about. 1 4
wish Posted February 19 Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, Relampago. said: Like… how? Because it has a bassline? Okay, so bad guy is now the biggest disco hit of 2019 because it has a bassline and Billie was actually the one who didn’t evolve since she tried to release her second disco song for a quick hit with Therefore I Am. I swear, if Dua hadn’t ever mentioned her disco era people would not be name dropping that genre to make it sound like they know what they’re talking about. Training Season is disco influenced & there's nothing wrong with that. Just because it doesn't sound like Future Nostalgia doesn't mean it's not disco. Future Nostalgia uses the more sleek and modern EDM-influenced Nu-Disco which became trendy on the charts. Meanwhile, Training Season draws from ABBA's style of 70s Europop disco. There is a disco rhythm in the song, it's very apparent. 2
Wicked Posted February 19 Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, wish said: Training Season is disco influenced & there's nothing wrong with that. Just because it doesn't sound like Future Nostalgia doesn't mean it's not disco. Future Nostalgia uses the more sleek and modern EDM-influenced Nu-Disco which became trendy on the charts. Meanwhile, Training Season draws from ABBA's style of 70s Europop disco. There is a disco rhythm in the song, it's very apparent. Training Season sounds like Euro Disco, idk why they arguing with you on that. There's several variations of disco music lmfao 2
CandleGuy Posted February 19 Posted February 19 All of her songs have similar vocals, delivery, tone, tempo, instruments, drums, genre, melody, chord progressions. But aside from that they're completely unique. 5
Relampago. Posted February 19 Posted February 19 1 minute ago, wish said: Training Season is disco influenced & there's nothing wrong with that. Just because it doesn't sound like Future Nostalgia doesn't mean it's not disco. Future Nostalgia uses the more sleek and modern EDM-influenced Nu-Disco which became trendy on the charts. Meanwhile, Training Season draws from ABBA's style of 70s Europop disco. There is a disco rhythm in the song, it's very apparent. While I agree parts sound similar to Lay Your Love on Me… you kind of contradict the original point you were making with this post. There’s a very distinct sonic difference between the clear disco influence on FN versus the touch of disco in the chorus. It’s lazy to say that just because Houdini had the 80s synths and influences and Training Season pulls from 70s electropop-disco is the reason her music is indistinguishable. No, people just can’t decipher music they don’t care to decipher. That’s like saying Therefore I Am/Bad Guy are the same because of the similar production or We Found Love/Where Have You Been are the same because they’re both EDM songs. Or even Olivia with G4U/Vampire because they’re both pop rock songs. FN and DL3 singles are distinctly different. The biggest similarity is that they pull from retro genres but when artists do the same and smash anyways… is that really a criticism to levy against Dua when there’s a much clearer evolution with her music than her contemporaries?
Relampago. Posted February 19 Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, Wicked said: Training Season sounds like Euro Disco, idk why they arguing with you on that. There's several variations of disco music lmfao I was referring to the fact that the post was saying the song was inspired by disco and implying that for that reason alone it was too similar to FN’s take on disco— which just isn’t the case really. With a genre as broad as disco, it’s wild to assume that Dua’s music is too samey just cause it’s pulling from the same genre but with entirely different takes. The fact of the matter is TS is extremely different from her past works both rhythmically and melodically. What’s even crazier is that Houdini faced the same criticism and it’s even further away from anything on FN. At least TS somewhat sounds like BMH but even then… not really.
Ken Lee Posted February 19 Posted February 19 People in here acting like the 2 new songs are an avant-garde extreme departure with deeply psychedelic moments are delusional; the psychedelia influences are somewhat subtle. It's really the same case for disco on Future Nostalgia. I don't know why we're pretending it's some top-to-bottom disco record 7
unclefloprry Posted February 19 Posted February 19 It's really fun see people with Billie and Taylor avis in this thread. 5
Amaru Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Sounds like a smash, not sure why the girls are mad this is a BOP
4th Time Around Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) The level of hypocrisy in this thread is astonishing. ATRL is a gutter of terrible takes and bandwagon stans who will jump ship the second something is not debuting at #1 on the billboard hot 100. You people realize that the USA is not the center of the universe right? Edited February 19 by 4th Time Around 1
PoisonPill Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Aren’t there enforced thresholds for posting “viral” threads? I can’t imagine two random gays making videos meets the threshold 1
bad guy Posted February 19 Posted February 19 24 minutes ago, unclefloprry said: It's really fun see people with Billie and Taylor avis in this thread. Let's not when Dua could never deliver the range of bury a friend -> When I Was Older -> everything i wanted -> Happier Than Ever. Let alone even step the slightest out of her comfort zone to even make a captivating ballad. Houdini is a cute progression but behave. OT: Houdini sounds elevated/fresh enough to not be compared to her past work but I guess in the GP's eyes DTN is the last song of hers they remember and Training Season does sound closer to her previous work. There are much more glaring examples of pop girls who make the same song over and over again. 2
Janet Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) Training Season is boring sorry Edited February 19 by Janet 2
CandleGuy Posted February 19 Posted February 19 29 minutes ago, unclefloprry said: It's really fun see people with Billie and Taylor avis in this thread. In a 3 year period from 2017-2020, Taylor released two dark pop singles, followed by a trap-inspred single with Future, followed by a pop song for kids, followed by a pop song for lgbt rights, followed by a soft synth pop single about love, followed by a folk concept album that tells the story of a fictitious teenage love triangle. In a 5 year period from 2019-2024, Dua Lipa released 7 singles that are all slightly different versions of the same disco song. 1
Life Savers Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Beyond being pop songs, not really? This and especially Houdini wouldn't really flow in FN.
ATRL Moderator wehavetostan Posted February 19 Author ATRL Moderator Posted February 19 12 minutes ago, PoisonPill said: Aren’t there enforced thresholds for posting “viral” threads? I can’t imagine two random gays making videos meets the threshold It’s at the top of the thread and the first video meets the criteria Quote Tweet: 100,000 likes Song "revival" thread: 500,000 streams TikTok: 500,000 likes Topics that do not meet these numbers will be closed
honestopinion Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Her voice is just bland and lyrics having no personality / no depth. Everyone is saying her lyrics are very generic and all about the same topics and songs made just for radio 1
wish Posted February 19 Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Relampago. said: While I agree parts sound similar to Lay Your Love on Me… you kind of contradict the original point you were making with this post. There’s a very distinct sonic difference between the clear disco influence on FN versus the touch of disco in the chorus. It’s lazy to say that just because Houdini had the 80s synths and influences and Training Season pulls from 70s electropop-disco is the reason her music is indistinguishable. No, people just can’t decipher music they don’t care to decipher. That’s like saying Therefore I Am/Bad Guy are the same because of the similar production or We Found Love/Where Have You Been are the same because they’re both EDM songs. Or even Olivia with G4U/Vampire because they’re both pop rock songs. FN and DL3 singles are distinctly different. The biggest similarity is that they pull from retro genres but when artists do the same and smash anyways… is that really a criticism to levy against Dua when there’s a much clearer evolution with her music than her contemporaries? The GP are the ones saying her music sounds the same, not me I'm simply making my own interpretations based on what the viral TikToks in the OP are saying. It's fair for me to speculate why the GP thinks Dua's singles sound the same. It's all disco. You and I might understand the difference between sub-genres, but the GP does not. We've had a ton of hits follow the trend of "disco-influenced dance pop" from Levitating to Kiss Me More to Flowers to Cuff It to Say So. They all might have distinct elements, but they all fall under the overarching trend which the GP is now slowly getting tired of. In broad terms, all of Dua's recent singles have been uptempo disco-influenced dance pop. Other artists usually switch it up and release singles with diverse sounds and tempos, maybe it's time for Dua? 2
Parallel Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 hours ago, Suilen said: Those are not "people", they're some homosekshas who are probably on this very forum telling her to scrap the era 576k likes on the first video, I didn’t know ATRL had that many users
Peak Now Posted February 19 Posted February 19 People be saying this when they actually evidently like the song
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