nostalgic Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 5 hours ago, EtherealCat said: tiempo sin verte is overrated 10 years in a Spanish prison for this sacrilegous comment, puta 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giancor Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 The album is so good. All of the new songs are earworms 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Cash Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I hope that that floppage won't force her back into reggaeton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmoodRing Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 On 3/22/2024 at 8:16 PM, commander said: Lmao this is messy af. And Anuel is just gagging like the homo he is Yikes I know that he's messy but this came off as really unnecessarily derogatory? On 3/22/2024 at 9:15 PM, Dark Phoenix said: Wait, how TQG became a bigger song in Spotify vs BS53??? The latter was everywhere and now it's 40M behind? Miss Karol G her power I guess? Anyway, now that Puntería flopped she can go on an release Tiempo Sin Verte. This comparison is so unnecessary to make. Both songs were hits. Leave it at. Punteria literally just came out why are you calling it a flop? Only to the mention an actual sing that is good but unfortunately would flop as a single. On 3/22/2024 at 10:10 PM, GeeDuval said: Something happened i get what you mean but it feels like they were def on the right track. Is super obvious she changed her mind somewhere, it was gonna be another el dorado playlist type deal. But don't try and play like self titled & el dorado are better than this. maybe deadline from Sony? Maybe there will be a part 2 ? Self titled and even el playlist aren't bad in my opinion but something about them always seemed forced? Her explaining that she had separation anxiety, mom guilt, creative block, prioritize her relationship explains and confirms why her artistry took a dive. Self titled was probably her last record that had more than a decent amount of new solo material. Their needs to be a part two for sure. Alot of people that I know and have spoken to like the record but them releasing past her hype, drawing out the era (which we now know is her fault but them too because at the end of the day they shouldn't be giving her that much control if she's going to be that stubborn) 23 hours ago, romas_ld said: I feel like it'll debut with 10m on Spotify Which it didn't. Thankfulky but y'all shouldn't be so chart obsessed. Our girl is doing more than fine, all things considered. 19 hours ago, EtherealCat said: which would be fine (less would be fine too) she is old and a legacy act now Why are you always unnecessarily passive aggressive towards her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamthony Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Te Felicito & Cohete are top 5. Just like Loca/Rabiosa on Sale El Sol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romas_ld Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 So, what now? Where the tour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamthony Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Amigues estoy tan feliz con éste álbum, soy stan de Shaki desde 1995, si así de vieja estoy, y luego de crecer con ella siendo el soundtrack de mi vida es emocionante tener un nuevo trabajo, sobretodo uno tan variado que resume varias de las facetas de Shaki a lo largo de su carrera y presenta nuevos experimentos, cómo las canciones de regional mexicano, lo amo lo amo lo amo lo amo. Me pone contento el corazón tener a mi cabrita linda de vuelta 🥲 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmoodRing Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 17 hours ago, EtherealCat said: maybe 10 million was little optomisitc looking at the country individual charts, nothing is doing very well Bruh did she personally hurt you? You never have anything positive to say about her 16 hours ago, Lorelei said: She FUMBLED big time with not releasing this a year ago and get the Latin Self Titled digital drop moment Hopefully her team learns from their mistakes and plan a proper era. No more dragging an album campaign for half a decade. Promo is a must and start giving her deadlines. 16 hours ago, Green said: I thought we would get a top 15 debut like El Dorado at least or maybe #10 peak if we were lucky But now we are getting into This is me ... Now territory The fact that even Hozier is #2 in the US with 3.3 million steams without any hype or TTH placement Hozier is a white cis male and a popular artist right now. Of course he would be doing better than her in the US his main market. This shouldn't come off as a surprise 16 hours ago, BOOM! said: Also another thing that i absolutely hate is the album having only 4 solos song! This is crazy really. Majority of the album are collabs with Rauw and BZRP appearing on two different songs. This is absolutely too much. Like 30% of the album only is solo! Yeah she honestly should've just tacked on Don't Wait Up, Acróstico should've been just solo, La Fuerte technically is solo because it's just featuring a DJ and Tiesto was wasted on a remix when they could've easily served us an English bop 16 hours ago, Lorelei said: Her interviews are painful to watch lately with the things she says, especially her take on her recent artistry and the conceptual aspect of this album At least her vocals are good on this record and there are a couple of songs that are reminiscent of her past work, like TSV. We've moved past reggeaton which is very fortunate and there's no atrosity on the album on the level of Me Enamore. I mean the concept is not really a lie. Theirs at least a linear theme considering the break up. It's obvious that she was clearly being oppressed by Pique during the relationship because her lack of self confidence is telling. 16 hours ago, Ger.vaz said: I hate gp taste. When she releases a reggaeton Song they all complain and say she is a sell out and generic, etc, but at the end they stream her. now when she and her record label see the numbers, they are gonna freak out and Book the First avaible has-been reggaeton male single. I wouldn't be opposed as long as the video is great and the production is fire. They need to secure the Bad Bunny collaboration asap. Honorable mentions Quevedo, Eladio Carrion, Myke Towerz and Feid. But the selfish part of me wants her to work with more females! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinFreak Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Surprise performance like back in the day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinFreak Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Omg Tim Mitchell was at the release party.!!! There is hope! Second 0:05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmoodRing Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 15 hours ago, devonedelrey said: I thought she had this album ready in 2022, why did she take so long to release it lol, unless she just worked on felicito and released it straight away and then went and made the album which is so weird, ruined her album rollout, also she used to make much better music and wrote songs alone….motherhood and pique kinda killed the artist in her a shame She had an album ready to go around the suoerbowl aka the album that would've had Clandestino, Me Gusta and Don't Wait Up but then Covid happened, her dad got sick, Pique break up, moving, tax fraud so the album changed and was delayed overtime. Clearly she let the relationship consume her but to blame her motherhood is honestly quite the misogynistic take. Especially when it's her kids that have been part of her artistic motivation and support now. 14 hours ago, tomaseba said: Im not surprised about the album performance, it should have been released last year after the session. Even the brazilian insider said that the original release date was last march, and she left the ed sheeran and korean Girl group feat out. i'd prefer one of those songs instead that "Tiesto Remix" Origami featuring Blackpink(?) hopefully will be released at some point in the near future maybe on the second volume. The Ed Sheeran song is on his album featuring her and JBalvin so we should be fine. Tiesto and her missed an opportunity to serve her very own The Motto 14 hours ago, jadeabove said: Shakira has always been a slow gainer with her songs, she doesn't have great first day streams in general. However, while she is a slow gainer, I do think the quality of this album is meh. TQG is such a legitimate bop. Punteria is interesting, and has potential, but I just feel like it's such an easy listening song that leaves no definite impressions. I question some of the production decisions on this song that makes the song cheesier than it has to be, just like the rest of the album. I also think Cardi is the stand out on the track, her verses are better and the fact that she is singing on the song seems to bring the attention to her, although it could very well be the first time Shakira is as sexual in her lyrics, which I truly appreciate. Personally, I really disliked the wig she (Shakira) had on in the music video. All the Bizzarap songs can be thrown in the garbage. I find his songs are tacky and outdated. La Fuerte is so bad, I cannot. Even the 53 session to me was particularly uninteresting in terms of production. Her vocal performance, her energy and her lyrics however brought everything together. I don't know what Pique made her think about her voice and her talent in the years they were together, but she seems to be struggling with her self-confidence, according to the Apple Music interview. I hate him for that. I feel like the 2014 album was a better encapsulation of Shakira with modern production, although the songs were also cheesy because she was writing about the loser she was with. You Don't Care About Me not being a single really bombed that album. Either way, if anything, this album continues to show that Shakira is a star with so much charisma and talent. However, somehow, in my opinion, it always seem she chooses the wrong approach to her tracks. She needs a better A&R. I agree to an extent. I much prefer the vinyl version of Punteria because Cardi is way too prominent on the single version to the point where she dominates Shakira and makes her sound like a guest on her own song. Same thing with Cohete. She could've easily written a second verse instead of just repeating the chorus again. Entre Paréntesis, Nassau, Ultima and Acróstico suffer the same issues of not reaching higher highs because of the lack of a proper bridge and final chorus. 13 hours ago, GeeDuval said: It's a serious question because this is a chart forum, but I don't follow all that. Will this be pulling this is me numbers based on those day 1 numbers? What's needed for top 15 debut, etc. Saw she got a plaque for 7x multi platinum pre save sales, but I see everybody happy throwing shade cause it's not doing renaissance numbers. I mean is a Latin album from an artist that's still active 30+ years Yeah idk what beyhive is randomly coming for her. Why can't both woman experience success in their own ways without it being a competition 🤔 13 hours ago, EtherealCat said: i wonder what she will do on fallon, im assuming lip synch punteria and do those weird dance moves that they sped up in the video but im hoping shes sing something so maybe ultima since it seems to be connecting with the gp Weird dance moves? You mean choreography. Here we go again with you being disrespectful under the guise of criticism 13 hours ago, Red Hot Moon said: The fact that she's still relevant 30 years in, draws a lot of haters. Other than that, it's an era similar to ED, lots of pre-released singles, huge streaming numbers, some smashes, some flops, slow start of album release week, messy release on top of it...The only difference is this time we have vinyls, so we don't know yet how many physical albums she'll sell, hopefully more than last era. ED wasn't dragged out that long though. We got the album by single three. The issue was her tacking on other songs, lack of promo and then the lack of newer material after such a long hiatus 13 hours ago, Bookmark99 said: I listened once and haven't listened to the whole thing again because this isn't really an album, its a playlist. I know this sounds mean, but low-key hope it flops so she will stop being encouraged to make cheap and tacky music. If you are going flop at least do it with some artistic integrity. If the tracklist was more proper I would be fine with the material. But she needs to drop the yes men and be more collaborative in other ways but she also seems in a place where she's distrusting of others. Poor Shak. At least she's inspired so let's see where that gets us. If she gives us artistic integrity but then underperforms that'll be your next argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmoodRing Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 12 hours ago, Giancor said: If this flops she's going back to reggaeton It's sad how Afro verde is making her think her album is a success by giving her that plaque 3 seconds after the release It's not sad if it's a fact like why do ya want her to be undermined so badly she's been through enough 💀 I say that she should try her hand at serving a bilingual or English record again asap. Work with Benny Blanco, Skrillex and Max Martin reina 12 hours ago, Glamthony said: i love this album, it's like Sale El Sol EDM/Dance pop version, not her best, BUT not her worst, it's a 7.5/10 5/ I need her to go full blown and serve us the dance album that she owes us since 2011 12 hours ago, Lorelei said: Really? I mean, there's plenty to complain about where Shakira's career has headed musically the last decade, it's not that far fetched or unreasonable especially for an artist who delivered quality consistently for 15 years It's the general single compilation output every 5-7 years with short songs that feel unfinished and the continuous collaborations that people have grown tired of. The latter has only been a thing since el dorado and this is her first album following that up. Y'all are being hyperbolic at this point 11 hours ago, commander said: Why would she go back to reggaeton when every relevant Latin urban artist has effectively moved away from that? The most successful ones have developed a signature sound and a strong artistic identity, which is something Shakira seems to lack nowadays, hence the basic accusations. But I get it, she's no spring chicken, so let's cut this woman some slack. I mean reggaeton is still very much popular. The Latin landscape is just finally starting to become alot more versatile thankfully. Shakira doesn't lack identity. What she is lacking is proper management. She's aware and is trying to make up for loss time in the midst of her personal chaos going on. That "she's no spring chicken" comment giving ageist 💀 11 hours ago, Chromatica said: Still hoping we still get an English album this or next year tbh, her last English album was 10 years ago. Yes please I wanna heat her on a house, dancehall and she needs to start incorporating more middle eastern elements into her music again. It is sorely missed. Secure those Selena Gomez, Camila Cabello, Dua Lipa, Doja Cat, Drake, The Weeknd and Coldplay please 🙏🏼 11 hours ago, LatinFreak said: I feel bad for Manuel. He's such a sweet guy (and a cutie) but he got the worst song. I wish she had recorded something like 'El Merengue' with him instead. Then for that Shakira needs to work with Marshmello which I would totally be here for. Manuel will be alright. He's on his way to getting a hit with Shakira's true successor Lola Indigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmoodRing Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 11 hours ago, Glamthony said: Cohete it's a 10/10 i LOVE the beat, the melody, etc, Shak did well buying that song from Raw's album to inlcuded it on LMYNL She should work his producers. Rauw has very interesting productions on his music that Shakira could use to be more sonically interesting and experiment 10 hours ago, campelo said: At this point she could have added Don't Wait Up....and maybe Me Gusta And Clandestino at this point unless she's saving them for the rumored expanded edition or second volume for SPS purposes. I hate homeless droplets 9 hours ago, AvadaKedavra said: Its sad how the Andrew Watt Song was scrapped cause he's a masterful rock producer. This is one of the reaons why im still rooting for an expanded or second album. Probably desilusional but miracles happen sometimes. Well, Shakira lately, as we know, has become somewhat more minimalist. She doesn't like to overproduce things. She prioritizes enjoying her music instead of being stressed out about it being mega perfect. I really love her apple music interview. I feel like we understand her artistry better now Something I have noticed is that our personal contact with Shakira is minimal. Sometimes many people send their niece things and complaints-claims-ideas, but I feel it would be good if there were a manager or someone with whom we could interact. Besides Andrew Watt and Poo Bear do we know who else worked with her on this record that didn't make the cut 🤔 I NEED ORIGAMI so badly like ya have no idea. The latter what you wrote is not true like at all. She is still very much a control freak and a perfectionist. It's why it took us and take us so long to get albums out of her. Also just tag Afro Verde like the rest of us 🤣 9 hours ago, SweetTalker said: Counting pre release streams for album totals will never make sense to me. it's like if Rihanna decided to make a greatest hits and add every single #1 + Diamond single that she has. Would yall say it's the best selling album/GH ever? Um I get what you're trying to get at bug this is just how things have been in the streaming age. We don't make the rules and things have changed. 9 hours ago, Chromatica said: Got the CD today Ngl I would've loved Me Gusta on this over the Tiesto remix. Hopefully she's saving the K-Pop song for an English album. I miss her singing in English to be honest. I really do hope that we get somekind of follow up and have it be like a double album like OF 1 and 2. Bring LA MUJERES FACTURAN 9 hours ago, Green said: For the people complaining about the album being a "playlist" would you have rather Shakira to not release any music in 2022 and 2023 and just drop the whole album in March 22nd of 2024??? So we would get Te Felicito, Monotonia, Session 53, El Jefe, Copa Vacia, Punteria, etc the same day? We are in the streaming era. If Shakira wanted to release Session 53 in January of 2023 because she felt the need to release it at that time then she can't do it just because she doesn't have a full album ready? She's had what seems like about 2 albums done. One around the time of the suoerbowl and then this one so it's not to say that she wasn't "ready" life happened and then plans changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel767 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 LOL well maybe don't release the album 9 months after you kinda had some momentum going ... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmoodRing Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 9 hours ago, LatinFreak said: Aww my male fave stanning my all time fave absolutely warms my heart! They would sound fantastic on a record together. Just to be petty she should collaborate with more Spanish artists lol book a session with Ana Mena, Lola Indigo and Rosalia 7 hours ago, Yes, AND said: It is very mid. It sounds like a Paulina Rubia reject. The Latino in me still aches at how these 2 friends never worked together 💔 😪 why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmoodRing Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, Johnny Cash said: I hope that that floppage won't force her back into reggaeton ... she's not flopping though y'all are overreacting 1 hour ago, LatinFreak said: Surprise performance like back in the day? I'd rather she just announce the damn tour and dates already like this is the **** that us fans talk about in regards to her messy ass management 1 hour ago, LatinFreak said: Omg Tim Mitchell was at the release party.!!! There is hope! Second 0:05 Who is that and why is he important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealCat Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 3 hours ago, LatinFreak said: Surprise performance like back in the day? lock up your horses shes on the hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealCat Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 only down to #19 on artist chart today so should be a decent hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefertiti0 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Global Spotify day 2 #124(-37) Punteria - 1,493,374 #158(+24) TQG - 1,361,270 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 40 minutes ago, EtherealCat said: only down to #19 on artist chart today so should be a decent hold 17 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said: Global Spotify day 2 #124(-37) Punteria - 1,493,374 #158(+24) TQG - 1,361,270 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealCat Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 i hope they are already planning the pivot away from punteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealCat Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 she made the right choice when she took/bought cohete off rauw, might be my favourite after como donde y cuando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM! Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 So, when is the english album coming?? 2029? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmoodRing Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 26 minutes ago, BOOM! said: So, when is the english album coming?? 2029? Definitely not. She's reassured us that will be getting more and new music frequently. She's gonna make up for loss time 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Hot Moon Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Let's just hope the tour announcement will come next week to wrap up the era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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