Eóghan Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 minute ago, Superbitch said: lol so she is being played not this growing on me now. It is catchy af only after all the media pressure and noise. they have to save face for not being perceived as racist. even then I don't think it will ever reach top 20. believe me if the hive didn't do their work it wouldn't have cracked the top 50 by now. 1
Machete Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: THE will literally be a multi-MONTH Top5. Like theres no way it wont be Top5 for the next 7 weeks tbh. Even if streams decrease, radio will blow up I’m not so sure. Not trying to be a debbie-downer but I remember when everyone said the same about BMS when it got the early radio updates. Obviously Texas is doing much better on streaming but the principle applies. BMS peaked incredibly fast on radio and had no longevity. BMS’ quick gains were carried by Urban, Rhythmic, and Urban AC playing it fast because it’s a new Beyoncé song (and label obviously pushing it) and then when it reached #1 they dropped it fast because the song does not fit those formats at all. I can see the same happening for Texas as it also doesn’t fit those formats. So to offset those losses Bey is going to need Pop, HAC, AC, and Country to stay gaining/stable. Historically Country moves extremely slow and songs don’t peak there for months so this could play out in our favour, but who knows if they will even give Bey a top 10 push there. Same deal with AC. But regardless of what happens, this song is still outdoing my expectations and incredibly well for an artist nearly 30 years into their career. No complaints.
simon Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Machete said: I’m not so sure. Not trying to be a debbie-downer but I remember when everyone said the same about BMS when it got the early radio updates. Obviously Texas is doing much better on streaming but the principle applies. BMS peaked incredibly fast on radio and had no longevity. BMS’ quick gains were carried by Urban, Rhythmic, and Urban AC playing it fast because it’s a new Beyoncé song (and label obviously pushing it) and then when it reached #1 they dropped it fast because the song does not fit those formats at all. I can see the same happening for Texas as it also doesn’t fit those formats. So to offset those losses Bey is going to need Pop, HAC, AC, and Country to stay gaining/stable. Historically Country moves extremely slow and songs don’t peak there for months so this could play out in our favour, but who knows if they will even give Bey a top 10 push there. Same deal with AC. But regardless of what happens, this song is still outdoing my expectations and incredibly well for an artist nearly 30 years into their career. No complaints. Parkwood removed Break My Soul from radio the moment it hit #1. That was the reason it dropped fast. 4
Brikenbur Posted February 21 Posted February 21 28 minutes ago, Machete said: Hot take but I actually don’t want these big radio gains right now. I’d far prefer it if radio takes its time a bit so it can be used as a longevity tool. +30 weeks charting should be the goal. Hot take got to my table cold Songs like this usually gain huge prior to entering the Top 10 of radio and then gradually decreases in terms of chart positioning due to songs in heavy rotation within the Top 10, so I'm sure this will be #1 or close to by the time act ii is released
Brikenbur Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Bears01 said: Hive stop being negative challenge. Enjoy the ride y’all. She’s got one of the biggest songs in the world that’s stable everywhere
Mr.X Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, simon said: Parkwood removed Break My Soul from radio the moment it hit #1. That was the reason it dropped fast. Genuinely don't understand why record lables/management do that?.... It seems so counter-productive
ToraeGilt Posted February 21 Posted February 21 12 minutes ago, simon said: Parkwood removed Break My Soul from radio the moment it hit #1. That was the reason it dropped fast. No they did not. The hive just loves to run with that narrative to excuse BMS short lived time on radio. BMS had a radio deal/radio push, hence why it exploded initially. Once that was over, radio no longer had any incentive to play it especially on pop where the call outs were not good. 2
CaptainMusic Posted February 21 Posted February 21 26 minutes ago, Eóghan said: only after all the media pressure and noise. they have to save face for not being perceived as racist. even then I don't think it will ever reach top 20. believe me if the hive didn't do their work it wouldn't have cracked the top 50 by now. It’s not just racism though, obviously it’s a factor but country doesn’t play their own female artists or Pop outsiders unless they’re a feature. Even Taylor can’t go Top 30 there anymore when she sends country singles, and Kelly, P!nk and JT’s country songs all flopped. So the fact that it’s already Top 40 is very impressive.
Machete Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: No they did not. The hive just loves to run with that narrative to excuse BMS short lived time on radio. BMS had a radio deal/radio push, hence why it exploded initially. Once that was over, radio no longer had any incentive to play it especially on pop where the call outs were not good. Not just Hive, all stan bases have ran with the “pulled from radio” excuse when that’s just not a thing that happens. All the songs that were supposedly “pulled from radio” is just the label push coming to a halt and radio programmers not having any reason to play it due to either bad callouts or bad streaming. I’m cautious of that happening for Texas, but hopefully the callouts are good. 1
simon Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: No they did not. The hive just loves to run with that narrative to excuse BMS short lived time on radio. BMS had a radio deal/radio push, hence why it exploded initially. Once that was over, radio no longer had any incentive to play it especially on pop where the call outs were not good. There was literally radio DJ’s that said the song was removed hence why it dropped drastically. The BMS drop is not common. Radio doesn’t just drop the song when the song goes #1. Regardless - while BMS may have felt forced to listeners, THE seems to be widely requested and loved so I feel its radio story will be different. Also BMS went #1 with the album so it was a “mission accomplished” feeling while THE seems like it’s gonna ride until the Summer & beyond. Edited February 21 by simon 2
ToraeGilt Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Machete said: Not just Hive, all stan bases have ran with the “pulled from radio” excuse when that’s just not a thing that happens. All the songs that were supposedly “pulled from radio” is just the label push coming to a halt and radio programmers not having any reason to play it due to either bad callouts or bad streaming. I’m cautious of that happening for Texas, but hopefully the callouts are good. Agreed but I think Texas is different. It is actually being received well outside of Beyoncé's demo (this bodes well for call outs and streaming) so i have hope that it will actually have longevity, especially on pop radio. Edited February 21 by ToraeGilt
ToraeGilt Posted February 21 Posted February 21 17 minutes ago, simon said: There was literally radio DJ’s that said the song was removed hence why it dropped drastically. The BMS drop is not common. Radio doesn’t just drop the song when the song goes #1. Regardless - while BMS may have felt forced to listeners, THE seems to be widely requested and loved so I feel its radio story will be different. Also BMS went #1 with the album so it was a “mission accomplished” feeling while THE seems like it’s gonna ride until the Summer & beyond. First I heard of this... Why would a record label send a song to radio just to pull it shortly after? It makes no sense and is counterproductive.
KOMH Posted February 21 Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, V$. said: Is the UK midweek coming out today? Should be out at around 6PM or so.
ToraeGilt Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Texas clean version is now top 5 on US itunes. The maga folks are eating this up 3
KOMH Posted February 21 Posted February 21 She's #1 on the building midweek chart https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/ 3
simon Posted February 21 Posted February 21 10 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: First I heard of this... Why would a record label send a song to radio just to pull it shortly after? It makes no sense and is counterproductive. Do you know know who Beyonce is? Beyoncé has sabotaged her entire career from Self Titled to Act 1. This is the same label that did not send Cuff It to radio until 2 months after it went viral (and actually tried to send Church Girl). The same label that released no videos, interviews or promo. The same label that had Lemonade on TIDAL for 3 years. Maybe you’re new to Beyonce, but we are happy because THE is the first time since IASF/4, that Beyoncé has cared about promo.
Bears01 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 I’d rather y’all talk about her chart history with BMS than the constant whining about how “Parkwood isn’t doing ENOUGH!” It gets old after awhile. Literally the only complaint I have right now is that the song isn’t higher on TTH. The streams last week justified moving it up to at least the top 10, yet, here it is, barely in the top 15, still… 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted February 21 Posted February 21 God I want this week to be over and wake up next week to multiple #1 positions 7
ToraeGilt Posted February 21 Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, simon said: Do you know know who Beyonce is? Beyoncé has sabotaged her entire career from Self Titled to Act 1. This is the same label that did not send Cuff It to radio until 2 months after it went viral (and actually tried to send Church Girl). The same label that released no videos, interviews or promo. The same label that had Lemonade on TIDAL for 3 years. Maybe you’re new to Beyonce, but we are happy because THE is the first time since IASF/4, that Beyoncé has cared about promo. I think we all know that beyonce is a self saboteur. But BMS was not one of them or else it would not have been sent to radio in the first place just to be "pulled" a few weeks later. That is a waste of capital and resources. 1
Bears01 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 8 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: I think we all know that beyonce is a self saboteur. But BMS was not one of them or else it would not have been sent to radio in the first place just to be "pulled" a few weeks later. That is a waste of capital and resources. Yeah, this. The public didn’t like BMS that much and the streams back that up. It’s time people just accept That. The public liked Cuff It and they seem to be absolutely loving THE. We can be objective without having to constantly cry about how Beyonce ruins everything.
BnPac Posted February 21 Posted February 21 30 minutes ago, Bears01 said: Literally the only complaint I have right now is that the song isn’t higher on TTH. The streams last week justified moving it up to at least the top 10, yet, here it is, barely in the top 15, still… Quote the constant whining about how “Parkwood isn’t doing ENOUGH!” It gets old after awhile. I couldn't resist, sorry.
Bears01 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 minute ago, BnPac said: I couldn't resist, sorry. I put that blame more on Spotify if anything. I remember “Cuff It” consistently rising on TTH even when Parkwood was desperately trying to send Church Girl to radio 1
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