OnMyCoolJ Posted March 4 Posted March 4 9 hours ago, Hephaestus said: Not this thread falling to page 4, miss thing better announce title and/or album cover stat Such a fantastic rollout with barely 4 weeks to go 1
beyonceparkwood Posted March 5 Posted March 5 She’s pissing me off 😭 like can we get at least preorders, m’am? 1
Migs30283 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 beyonce should start announcing the act 2 album name, cover, and tracklist asap
Cbreezy Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I don't know if I've ever been THIS annoyed with her antics. As both Optimist Hive and Chart Hive, she's trying it on multiple fronts. The lack of preorders at this point is so bizarre that it almost has me wondering if the March 29 date is even gonna stick. She's a perfectionist, so it probably will. But I can't help but shake the feeling that something is off behind the scenes. * A vinyl production issue? * A copyright issue? Which, if true, would royally f*ck up the physical side of things if vinyl has been pressed and there's any kind of challenge. IIRC samples were being cleared right up until release for Rennie, which is wild when considering the implications. I'm seeing some of the Hive claim she may be trying to "avoid leaks". I call BS because if you follow that trail of thought, if she's so bothered by leaks, there's undoubtedly a heavy part of that that has to do with not wanting leaks to affect her commercial performance. The irony being that not playing the game (preorders, variations, lengthy preorder window) impacts her sales way more. Which in turn impacts the perception of the era. And in this fickle-ass business, perception is...everything. Too many of the Hive are giving her a pass, but will be the first ones cluttering up ATRL, Twitter, and similar moaning about what she "should" have done...now. The irony. Edited March 5 by Cbreezy 1
lapisnour Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Cbreezy said: At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I don't know if I've ever been THIS annoyed with her antics. As both Optimist Hive and Chart Hive, she's trying it on multiple fronts. The lack of preorders at this point is so bizarre that it almost has me wondering if the March 29 date is even gonna stick. She's a perfectionist, so it probably will. But I can't help but shake the feeling that something is off behind the scenes. * A vinyl production issue? * A copyright issue? Which, if true, would royally f*ck up the physical side of things if vinyl has been pressed and there's any kind of challenge. IIRC samples were being cleared right up until release for Rennie, which is wild when considering the implications. I'm seeing some of the Hive claim she may be trying to "avoid leaks". I call BS because if you follow that trail of thought, if she's so bothered by leaks, there's undoubtedly a heavy part of that that has to do with not wanting leaks to affect her commercial performance. The irony being that not playing the game (preorders, variations, lengthy preorder window) impacts her sales way more. Which in turn impacts the perception of the era. And in this fickle-ass business, perception is...everything. Too many of the Hive are giving her a pass, but will be the first ones cluttering up ATRL, Twitter, and similar moaning about what she "should" have done...now. The irony. Very interesting points!!! I've been wondering what she/her team might have planned for this roll-out since the pre-orders/announcement should have commenced Feb 29th at the latest! It would have been the perfect closer to the end of Black History Month (reclaiming cUntry as a genre) as well as it being a leap year... So I was hypothesizing the delay being related to either preemptively countering leaks OR issues with the production of physicals... Idk but this whole thing doesn't seem as probably was initially coordinated and planned. Then there are the rumors that a death within the family (Tina's side) is the reason for the delay, as well as the most audacious and sensationalist theories (more like conspiracies) claiming that B is getting ready for a tell-all exposing Jay a la R. Kelly and Diddy, and that's why she'd be pushing the releases out quicker than anticipated because she's about to divorce him... It goes without saying that these theories regarding Jay are nothing more than just smoking mirrors but still, I really am wondering what's going on behind the scenes...
RideOrDie Posted March 5 Posted March 5 didn't the tracklist reveal and other stuff start like a week before ren? were the cover and preorders up before that?
lapisnour Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, RideOrDie said: didn't the tracklist reveal and other stuff start like a week before ren? were the cover and preorders up before that? yeah that with the tracklist reveal is true. But the cover and name of the album were revealed on 06/29 of 22, so... 1
ReneighIsHere Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, RideOrDie said: didn't the tracklist reveal and other stuff start like a week before ren? were the cover and preorders up before that? the cover was posted exactly one month before release, the preorders were posted even before break my soul (she was selling 4 box sets) 1
Brikenbur Posted March 5 Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, RideOrDie said: didn't the tracklist reveal and other stuff start like a week before ren? were the cover and preorders up before that? 29/30 days prior 1
lapisnour Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, ReneighIsHere said: the cover was posted exactly one month before release, the preorders were posted even before break my soul (she was selling 4 box sets) OMG TRUE I COMPLETELY FORGOT. the album pre-orders used to be the black covers right?? and the four different versions were revealed the week after. Wow, that really makes everything even more suspicious... 1
ReneighIsHere Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, lapisnour said: OMG TRUE I COMPLETELY FORGOT. the album pre-orders used to be the black covers right?? and the four different versions were revealed the week after. Wow, that really makes everything even more suspicious... yes exactly.. the thing is she never does the same thing twice so we'll see. I refuse to believe that there's no physicals, i think it's more likely that she will announce everything 1-2 weeks before release (or even the same week that the album drops). Clearly she wants to keep all the information closer to the release date.. if the issue was only regarding the production of the physicals she could have still put up the pre-save on apple music/itunes (like she did with renaissance) and reveal the cover, but it's clear she's saving everything for another date 1
ShouldersSideways Posted March 5 Posted March 5 24 minutes ago, lapisnour said: Then there are the rumors that a death within the family (Tina's side) is the reason for the delay, as well as the most audacious and sensationalist theories (more like conspiracies) claiming that B is getting ready for a tell-all exposing Jay a la R. Kelly and Diddy, and that's why she'd be pushing the releases out quicker than anticipated because she's about to divorce him... It goes without saying that these theories regarding Jay are nothing more than just smoking mirrors but still, I really am wondering what's going on behind the scenes... Tina's brother passing in old age (not unexpectedly) wouldn't affect a multi-million dollar rollout and as for the rest of your post... if not having a pre-order and cover reveal is enough to make people think all that, they're just mentally ill. 1
Havoc Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 hours ago, lapisnour said: Very interesting points!!! I've been wondering what she/her team might have planned for this roll-out since the pre-orders/announcement should have commenced Feb 29th at the latest! It would have been the perfect closer to the end of Black History Month (reclaiming cUntry as a genre) as well as it being a leap year... So I was hypothesizing the delay being related to either preemptively countering leaks OR issues with the production of physicals... Idk but this whole thing doesn't seem as probably was initially coordinated and planned. Then there are the rumors that a death within the family (Tina's side) is the reason for the delay, as well as the most audacious and sensationalist theories (more like conspiracies) claiming that B is getting ready for a tell-all exposing Jay a la R. Kelly and Diddy, and that's why she'd be pushing the releases out quicker than anticipated because she's about to divorce him... It goes without saying that these theories regarding Jay are nothing more than just smoking mirrors but still, I really am wondering what's going on behind the scenes... Um...what?!
lapisnour Posted March 5 Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, Havoc said: Um...what?! I know... it goes deep, I've had too much time during my break, but there's this delusional corner of the hive that claims that there's a full exposé on Jay's shady business practices and personal ''dating'' life (which I agree both are definitely extremely shady and tainted) but he is one of the most powerful men of the country if we're being completely transparent, I don't know what that revelation/report would even look like. He just seems too powerful to cancel. But basically, that delusional part of the hive claims that Bey is preparing for a big detonation and crash, hence why shes pushing the album earlier than planned. And that just makes zero ******* sense because even if Jay was to be exposed for every unholy thing he's been committing, she would be just as guilty in complicity for almost 25 years, so this whole theory is extremely flawed at best, and downright delusional at worst. 1
BnPac Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) A tell-all book? A tell-all? Beyoncé? Child of Tina and Matthew Beyoncé? Edited March 5 by BnPac 13
OnMyCoolJ Posted March 6 Posted March 6 A lil over 3 weeks to go and this thread keeps falling onto 3-5 page range 1
lapisnour Posted March 6 Posted March 6 5 hours ago, OnMyCoolJ said: A lil over 3 weeks to go and this thread keeps falling onto 3-5 page range well can we blame anyone? theres really nothing to discuss...
Lose My Breath Posted March 6 Posted March 6 5 hours ago, OnMyCoolJ said: A lil over 3 weeks to go and this thread keeps falling onto 3-5 page range What is there to talk about? lol
KatyPrismSpirit Posted March 6 Posted March 6 How come there is no pre-order or tracklist yet? I think she is going to wait until the very last minute. Only a little over 3 weeks left Bey…
Kristie Kuwa Posted March 6 Posted March 6 16 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: How come there is no pre-order or tracklist yet? I think she is going to wait until the very last minute. Only a little over 3 weeks left Bey… 1 thing about Bey: She orgasms at the thought of being "different" 4
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