artist stats The Fame Monster sells 40M album units ww (2nd best-selling album of the century)

[Funnyfatty]

Lady Gaga is a legend and only toilet stan will disagree WHICH CONFIRMS THAT GAGA IS A LEGEND  

[Junlin]

That’s cheating. That’s not one album. That’s fraud like that Super Bowl ratings. 

[Zaram]

6 hours ago, Goaty said:

Thanks. So if Gaga herself states in such plain terms that they’re two separate albums, why are we combining them into one era?  
 

 

Because most charts combine them, the album is sold combined and it's combined on Spotify 

Edited February 9 by Zaram

[Stallo]

7 hours ago, Kimi said:

we do count them separately, chartmaster refuses tho

They explained why, something that makes perfect sense. In some markets the album was only sold, charted and reported as one unit. How were CM supposed to seperate the numbers between the two projects?

[MatiRod]

CM count them together because Fame Monster was technically a re-release of her debut album. It was only in the US I believe that it was also sold as a separate EP with the eight new songs. But everywhere else it was only sold as Fame+Fame Monster.

 

People also forget that back then a lot of albums had reissues a year after release with new songs. Fearless Platinum Edition had six new tracks for example.

 

So basically while artistically speaking, yes they are separate bodies of work, in commercial terms they're part of the same era. For example, I doubt she was given another advance for Fame Monster. When an artist moves onto another era, they get another advance, there's a new budget approved etc. Fame Monster was instead an extension of the Fame. And CM is a website that are trying to create a system of equivalent album sales based on revenue, that's the data behind their formula, why they weigh digital sales they way they do and streams and so on. So it makes sense they would join releases under the same 'era' so to speak.

 

Edited February 9 by MatiRod

[bjorn]

And how many of those are physical albums? 
 

that’s what’s counts  

[tost1]

23 minutes ago, bjorn said:

And how many of those are physical albums? 
 

that’s what’s counts  

You need to focus your anger on something productive, like logging out of here

[Ambient]

So it is counted as 

 

1 CD album 

1 CD + 1 CD 

 

so triple?

Edited February 9 by Ambient

[UnusualBoy]

Huge

 

Although if we're being honest it's basically 2 albums combined because how else TF and TFM were nominated for AOTY at the grammys separately. She was that ***** regarless.

[Blue Jeans]

What an iconic era! It was a sight to behold when Gaga came on the scene. 

[Sannie]

15 hours ago, Sheep said:

Suddenly I never doubted chartmasters 

Came in to say this. Suddenly the most reliable source on the planet for sales.  

 

 

2 hours ago, bjorn said:

And how many of those are physical albums? 
 

that’s what’s counts  

All of them. EAS stands for "Extra Awesome Sales". Purely physical sales. 

Edited February 9 by Sannie

[perfillusion]

8 hours ago, Junlin said:

That’s cheating. That’s not one album. That’s fraud like that Super Bowl ratings. 

Your fave Kesha was literally allowed to exist bc of this album. Show gratitude. She even re-released Animal, with Tik Tok basically being a Just Dance remix, as a "darker" 8-track EP called Cannibal exactly one year to the day after TFM. Like...the audacity to even "throw shade" when you should be bowing down and saying "THANK YOU Lady Gaga!!"

[stevyy]

16 hours ago, CaptainMusic said:

Dangerous was a decade after Thriller and sold 30M.

 

“Regular” pop acts were not selling that and it’s not comparable to Gaga going from 40M to ARTPOP in less than 5 years

 

Y’all need to make up your mind as well if it’s 2 albums or not. 

For context, his streak of 30m for OTW, 70m for Thriller, 35m for Bad, 30m for Dangerous and 20m+ for History is kinda unmatched. And that's with pure sales alone. I do not even want to know those album's streaming sales... He basically smashed back to back between 1979 - 1997. 

 

It is so odd that people and the media were always claiming a "decline" every single time post Thriller... well technically... but those albums still outsold whatever the competition was. 

 

I am currently watching "the Detail" on YT and their respospect about the 2000s decade and the media was acting so strangely towards him in 2000, 2001, 2002... Invncible still sold like 7 million copies... and it was the first time that one of his albums did not destroy the competition... but after 30 years... 

 

The perspective was so skewed.

[stevyy]

3 hours ago, bjorn said:

And how many of those are physical albums? 
 

that’s what’s counts  

around 15 million. 

[Bojana]

Ohh the fame monster the era that you were 

[Aden]

20 hours ago, CaptainMusic said:

 

None of those artists are “regular” pop acts and the only one who had a big gap on Dangerous globally was The Bodyguard.

 

Dangerous actually sold more outside the U.S than any Metallica, Nirvana and Mariah album.

No one stays #1 forever, even Taylor fell behind for a few years and will again eventually but in no way is this comparable to Gaga getting destroyed by Beyoncé, Katy, Rihanna, Taylor, Adele, Bieber, Drake, etc in the mid-2010s  

Love this hyperfixation on her decline with ARTPOP as if she didn't come back and destroy 95% of her peers with ASIB.

 

OT: THE pop bible of the 21st century.

[Aden]

12 hours ago, MatiRod said:

So basically while artistically speaking, yes they are separate bodies of work, in commercial terms they're part of the same era. For example, I doubt she was given another advance for Fame Monster. When an artist moves onto another era, they get another advance, there's a new budget approved etc. Fame Monster was instead an extension of the Fame. And CM is a website that are trying to create a system of equivalent album sales based on revenue, that's the data behind their formula, why they weigh digital sales they way they do and streams and so on. So it makes sense they would join releases under the same 'era' so to speak.

 

This is one of the most eloquent explanations of TF + TFM that I've ever read.

 

They're musically and culturally two distinct bodies of work but their sales are organized jointly because of the business conditions that created TFM. Gaga herself didn't want TFM to be a re-release and she sees that work as a whole other album, just like the Recording Academy did nominating it for AOTY separately from TF.

[family.guy123]

13 hours ago, MatiRod said:

CM count them together because Fame Monster was technically a re-release of her debut album. It was only in the US I believe that it was also sold as a separate EP with the eight new songs. But everywhere else it was only sold as Fame+Fame Monster.

 

People also forget that back then a lot of albums had reissues a year after release with new songs. Fearless Platinum Edition had six new tracks for example.

 

So basically while artistically speaking, yes they are separate bodies of work, in commercial terms they're part of the same era. For example, I doubt she was given another advance for Fame Monster. When an artist moves onto another era, they get another advance, there's a new budget approved etc. Fame Monster was instead an extension of the Fame. And CM is a website that are trying to create a system of equivalent album sales based on revenue, that's the data behind their formula, why they weigh digital sales they way they do and streams and so on. So it makes sense they would join releases under the same 'era' so to speak.

 

Swift fans will argue that Red TV is the exact same album as Red even though it has like 40 minutes of brand new material so I wouldn’t waste your time. 

[Rhiannon]

TFM is BEST POP ALBUM EVER period.

[TROJAN]

14 hours ago, bjorn said:

And how many of those are physical albums? 
 

that’s what’s counts  

What year were you born?

 

OT: Queen! 

[TomTom]

20 hours ago, perfillusion said:

Your fave Kesha was literally allowed to exist bc of this album. Show gratitude. She even re-released Animal, with Tik Tok basically being a Just Dance remix, as a "darker" 8-track EP called Cannibal exactly one year to the day after TFM. Like...the audacity to even "throw shade" when you should be bowing down and saying "THANK YOU Lady Gaga!!"

This is the the most delusional thing I have ever read. Kesha does not owe anything to Lady Gaga whatsoever and certainly wasn’t inspired by her .

[Hot Volcano]

12 minutes ago, TomTom said:

This is the the most delusional thing I have ever read. Kesha does not owe anything to Lady Gaga whatsoever and certainly wasn’t inspired by her .

No baby, you are the one who's delusional. If you go to TikTok's wikipedia page there is literally a picture of Gaga in the Critical reception section

[TomTom]

3 hours ago, Hot Volcano said:

No baby, you are the one who's delusional. If you go to TikTok's wikipedia page there is literally a picture of Gaga in the Critical reception section

Kesha does not owe anything to Lady Gaga because both of their debut singles revolve around partying, that's ridiculous .

[Mr. Stratus]

The biggest femalr era of all time. The non-stop hits. The IFPI #1 dance-pop hit. The way it birthed artists like Natalia Kills, Ava Max, and Kesha.
The hate on the first page we know why this is 

Edited February 10 by Mr. Stratus

[Mr. Stratus]

On 2/9/2024 at 12:27 AM, DoubleRainbow! said:

Combining 2 different eras lol 

It’s a re-release. Just like how ’Teenage Dream’ was re-released in 2012 and ‘Animal’ in 2011.
Even today, labels are re-releasing old singles in Asia, thereby using these old pop songs in a transparent attempt to keep the streams afloat in populous markets. 

TFM reaching 40m is organic and a balanced WW era

Edited February 10 by Mr. Stratus